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Also, I would have posted the recipe without issue or hoopla. Wanted just a bit more time...Then whatever happened happened and I literally just went back through the pages pm'ing everyone....no one got special treatment. I just didn't want to share with that guy...



The recipe fits all the parameters. 3 tobaccos and two other flavors. Is almost spot on in color. And the taste is right there....

I wanted to work on proportions more. It wasn't a finished product..

Already have quite a few that that are skeptic, some more than others. That's fine. Apparently they have the ability to taste flavors they don't have and have never tried or heard of...
 
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..... I just didn't want to share with that guy

That might be me he's talkin' about
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Also, I would have posted the recipe without issue or hoopla. Wanted just a bit more time...Then whatever happened happened and I literally just went back through the pages pm'ing everyone....no one got special treatment. I just didn't want to share with that guy...

The recipe fits all the parameters. 3 tobaccos and two other flavors. Is almost spot on in color. And the taste is right there....

I wanted to work on proportions more. It wasn't a finished product..

Already have quite a few that that are skeptic, some more than others. That's fine. Apparently they have the ability to taste flavors they don't have and have never tried or heard of...

So, in other words, to give your BB interpretation a shot, all it takes is "not to be him"....now that is an easy one, isn't it? :)

Seriously, there are quite a few Boba's clone recipes on the net and I tried all of them, but my taste buds must be installed differently. Most of them are not even close to the real thing. I'd love to give yours a shot though.

Out of all those trial and errors, I found my own Gorilla juice "clone", which I am quite happy with. My biggest beef with AVE is that they don't make BB nor GJ in 3mg....

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Also, I would have posted the recipe without issue or hoopla. Wanted just a bit more time...Then whatever happened happened and I literally just went back through the pages pm'ing everyone....no one got special treatment. I just didn't want to share with that guy...



The recipe fits all the parameters. 3 tobaccos and two other flavors. Is almost spot on in color. And the taste is right there....

I wanted to work on proportions more. It wasn't a finished product..

Already have quite a few that that are skeptic, some more than others. That's fine. Apparently they have the ability to taste flavors they don't have and have never tried or heard of...

There are always gonna skeptics no matter what. Even if you somehow had the real recipe, ppl would still question it.

Thank you EddieAdams for sharing me the recipe...As others have said, I will not post it or share it with others. It is EddieAdams work, and it's up to him to share.

Others that have the recipe may be skeptical, but I'm more intrigued than anything else. The only thing I'm looking into is the last ingredient. Its the type of ingredient that can taste great if done right. And can make a juice taste bad if too much is added. The preparation of the last ingredient can take up to two weeks in steep time, and there are many ways and opinions on how it should be made.

Others on here say that they are skeptical if steeping is needed. But IMO the difference can be big on juice a couple weeks old vs. juice made the day before.
 

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I've tried a bunch of 'clone' recipes, and for me none of them came close - I just wasn't tasting black and mild in the original, which is what most of the ones I tried used.

Actually it's GJ that I really liked - but now reading that link it's not quite as simple as adding banana...hmmm!

My question is that the real BB is VG, and I can't vape any more than 50/50 - what would BB be like in 50/50?
 

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There are always gonna skeptics no matter what. Even if you somehow had the real recipe, ppl would still question it.

Thank you EddieAdams for sharing me the recipe...As others have said, I will not post it or share it with others. It is EddieAdams work, and it's up to him to share.

Others that have the recipe may be skeptical, but I'm more intrigued than anything else. The only thing I'm looking into is the last ingredient. Its the type of ingredient that can taste great if done right. And can make a juice taste bad if too much is added. The preparation of the last ingredient can take up to two weeks in steep time, and there are many ways and opinions on how it should be made.

Others on here say that they are skeptical if steeping is needed. But IMO the difference can be big on juice a couple weeks old vs. juice made the day before.
Yeah TA can go wrong real easy. I never put more than 1-2 drops diluted TA/EM mix per 10ml in my tobacco mixes. And there's a big difference between 1 or 2 drops.

It just creeps up and then it's overpowering when you use too much.
 

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Ive used TA and many forms of diluted TA for over two years now. Ive have yet to find Scubatdan's or even Nuck's TA dilutions do that. Both of them are used as a base tobacco mix and many people do so. Ive never found either to creep up or overpower anything. Its stable and changed like any other tobacco flavoring over time and actually gets smoother with age.

That 1 or 2 drops of a dilution is a personal preference of yours Eddie. Not generally accepted. and TA dilutions no not need steeping after preparation. Ive never had to do so.
 
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Hangsen flavoring uses triacetin(spelling?) as a carrier...

Are you stating fact here? Triacetin is a plasticizer. Its what causes cracked plastic tanks in attys. I use several hangsen that are thick like that and have never had a tank crack. I also have developed a sensitivity to juices made with flavorings extracted via triacetin. So this is important for me to know.
 

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Are you stating fact here? Triacetin is a plasticizer. Its what causes cracked plastic tanks in attys. I use several hangsen that are thick like that and have never had a tank crack. I also have developed a sensitivity to juices made with flavorings extracted via triacetin. So this is important for me to know.
It was discussed in this thread. They're either triacetin or a blend of triacetin and Vg.
 

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OK, I've hinted at this a while back, I feel most of Bobas taste can be attributed to the pictured flavor. I really think if you add the other tobacco elements to this you have it. This was mentioned, and quickly dismissed back around post 1800, I think that was a mistake. as far as I know it is not offered as a concentrate, but it is a pretty strong flavor, and pretty good mixed at about 10% . I'll also add I asked what the carrier was for this, did not get an answer, I believe it is mostly VG, its too thick to be PG. Another interesting point is you won't find this anywhere on DIYFS site. Maybe it is 40% because this is not a concentrate no idea, but to my buds, nose, etc, this is a big part of it.

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It was discussed in this thread. They're either triacetin or a blend of triacetin and Vg.

I swear ive read and followed this whole thread and dont remember seeing that discussed. However I did do a little research on Hangsen. Their flavorings are either pg/vg and they use very advanced distillation processes. Im pretty confident this would eliminate a need for something like triacetin in anything other than the most stubborn fruit or spice flavorings. Triacetin is used for extracting flavors. Not as a base. Any triacetin in flavoring is usually left over from the extraction process. To my knowledge its very difficult to remove it once used. I have never seen it used as a base carrier.

If I vape something with triacetin for too long I develop very painful canker sores in my mouth. I avoid it like the plague now.
 
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If its not on their site how did you find it? Where can it be purchased? Im interested in the premise of your idea here.

OK, I've hinted at this a while back, I feel most of Bobas taste can be attributed to the pictured flavor. I really think if you add the other tobacco elements to this you have it. This was mentioned, and quickly dismissed back around post 1800, I think that was a mistake. as far as I know it is not offered as a concentrate, but it is a pretty strong flavor, and pretty good mixed at about 10% . I'll also add I asked what the carrier was for this, did not get an answer, I believe it is mostly VG, its too thick to be PG. Another interesting point is you won't find this anywhere on DIYFS site. Maybe it is 40% because this is not a concentrate no idea, but to my buds, nose, etc, this is a big part of it.

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I swear ive read and followed this whole thread and dont remember seeing that discussed. However I did do a little research on Hangsen. Their flavorings are either pg/vg and they use very advanced distillation processes. Im pretty confident this would eliminate a need for something like triacetin in anything other than the most stubborn fruit or spice flavorings. Triacetin is used for extracting flavors. Not as a base. Any triacetin in flavoring is usually left over from the extraction process. To my knowledge its very difficult to remove it once used. I have never seen it used as a base carrier.

If I vape something with triacetin for too long I develop very painful canker sores in my mouth. I avoid it like the plague now.
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Will you share your GJ recipe with a humble DIYer novice. Thanks.

Great work guys and quite interesting recipes!any hint on gorilla juice?someone mentioned something some posts back...


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Even though this is the BB clone thread - I am unaware of a GJ clone thread --- here it goes.

Understand this, the recipe is not a GJ clone by any stretch of imagination. I took some of the mixes I found online, fooled around with them (sure enough I call it Monkey Juice) and came up with this. Mind you that GJ is most likely the same mix as BB with some banana flavor of sorts added to it. I also don't believe that both recipes are truly complex with 6 or more different flavors.....

To your NIC base line add:

Mild Black by TFA 6%
Black Honey Tobacco by Signature (EcigExpress) 5 %
Banana Nut Bread by TFA 5%

Important! I am targeting a 50/50 blend. This creates just the right amount of sweetness. I tried this in 70/30, but did not like that at all. As a matter of fact all my juices are for 50/50.

In my next batch I will add "Ripe Banana", if I can find the vendor again. I saw this some time ago, but forgot to take a note. I also have Black Honey Tobacco by TFA, but I have no idea what the difference between this and the one made by Signature could be.

Have fun.

Cheers.
 
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