My Boba's clone

[Tinnman]

Aheadoftime -after my 3rd and final batch I will take my best flavored recipe and....
Net/suspend 'Saffron' in VG all by itself, needing the base daily and probably doing this for a week. A measured weight of spice in 20ml VG (this way I can raise/lower my spiced dilute to adjust flavor). Think of It a being nothing more than a tea bag in cold water...taking a fork and squeezing the teabag than dropping it back in the water . The more/less I soak and need my spice the weaker/stronger it gets.........testing is required in order to meet a final criteria for consistent mixes....My final winning recipe I will be working on in 2 weeks consisting of 3 tobacco bases from WL/FA/FA etc. with the Meade will be mixed separately.......With no waiting time or netting done here I will add my tobacco and Meade to the netted 'Saffron' VG. This Saffron will also help feed my fermentation process as well as give an unbelievable flavor. I will sonic my mix as 5on/60off/7days/sit 7 and upon completion enjoy an awesome vape I hope tastes like BB.
NOTE: You see Meade in itself can be spiced many different ways opening a new realm To my vaping and DYI enjoyment, I have made home made MEAD before and it is an experience to enjoy by itself...if I can add this to my vaping/DYI experience I will have hit a homerun for me. Google: (KEVIN KARPLUS/MEAD RECIPE) see you can tweak and change your Mead with spice, raisen, honey etc, its like taking DYI TO A WHOLE DIFFERENT LEVEL....just love my DYI and homebrew experience. I hope BB is in my mix!!!!! Got to go to work.

 

[Sad Society]

DYI = Do Yourself It....Right?

 

[buffaloguy]

Im confused. I thought we long ago dismissed the idea of bobas fermenting somehow as it just being some air bubbles? While I like the idea of using something like a meade in ejuice I dont think it all relates to bobas and might be best served in its own thread. Thats how people started extracting their own coffee and tea vapes, among other things. Its an interesting concept, but for the larger diy community here I think its a novel idea that is lost in this thread. (side note: i personally think there is no way in h e double hockey sticks that ben uses meade in bobas)

Bobas is three tobaccos and two other ingredients. Ben did say no alcohol was in bobas but he could have been fibbing, we dunno.

 

[iraqui]

It's sounds as though reducing it by equal amount of PG will get you at the correct strength. It will be a judgement call though, as only you can decide.

Actually its hard to decide as i dont own the natural line almond, but i tried to reduce it to half in the recipe and still very overpowering all other flavours, may be the guys at lorann have more info about this, ill send them an email, and thanks for ur help

 

[ckone180]

Actually its hard to decide as i dont own the natural line almond, but i tried to reduce it to half in the recipe and still very overpowering all other flavours, may be the guys at lorann have more info about this, ill send them an email, and thanks for ur help

I hope they have an answer for you. They stated that it was twice the strength rather vaguely. I also run into issues where one flavor at a small amount just overpowers everything.


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[Aheadatime]

Ok so I've just received my christmas bottle of Boba's Bounty and I'm getting an idea of what it tastes like. The smell was chocolatey, malty, alcoholic, and tobacco-y. It was a very strong smell that lingered in the nose for a bit. Everyone in the house agreed with me on the smell too. They all picked up chocolate, malt, alcohol, and tobacco.

The taste so far is mostly oatmeal cookie. I am getting a tobacco base (the smell of marlboro reds) with it, but this is leading me to believe that it's definitely not a NET. I think it's a couple of VG based synthetic tobaccos due to how cookie-ish it tastes, as my NET's have never tasted like this. The NET's that I've experimented with tasted much more realistic, like leafy or rich. This tastes more.. erm.. well not fake, but not real. It's hard to explain. I'll just say I totally believe Ben when he said theres no NETs involved. And it's definitely not as sweet as most people made it seem. It's actually quite 'plain' in the sweet department imo. I guess it's time for me to get my hands dirty with clone concepts.

 

[Tinnman]

I have tried many concepts in trying to crack the BB code. I do not believe alcohol is in THE FINAL PRODUCT. I believe vinager is. I also do not believe there is a fermentation process going on with BB. I must test it to resolve my own personal suspicions. I think the sometimes their are bubbles/froth and sometimes not is the result of a completed process of fermentation and by product of the fermentation process. The direction I am pursuing is two fold. In short...an opened bottle of MEAD that has turned into vinager is added to 3 tobaccos plus 1 flavor or...MEAD added directly to the mix than turning into vinager. Either way the final product will have no alcohol in its content. In my pursuit it would finalize some unanswered questions. It would also lead me to continue on or halt a suspicion I have had for many years and did not pursue. But I MUST complete a process before I go there. I hope MEAD is a nice clean easy alternative to what I am about to say.
I really, really hate to say this but....I feel the secret ingrediants is Honey Raisin Bread hooch/thats right a jail house alcohol either added directly or turned to vinager than added. Afterwards the 3 added tobacco flavors may/may not be Black and Mild Plus, Smooth, Black Honey, etc. (whatever your twist to resolution may be) . I believe the final ingrediant is a concoction of alcohol with more than one ingrediant in its fermentation process.
This would answer many questions that I have and all the background flavors I taste. I feel BB is simply 4 store bought tobaccos with no netting, an easy DYI MIX. Than just dump a pipette of honey raisin bread Hooche or Mead in 5 to 8% ratio and watch it work. Or let the Meade/Hooch turn to vinager first than add to the mix. Either way makes no difference in the final outcome. Except if this concept is true we will never ever break the BB code, If its a homemade Meade/ Hooch it would open a million possibilities!!! Unless its a store bought Meade product!! Maybe there is hope!!!
Maybe I'm just chasing a phantom...but I see no final resolution as of yet. I am just adding my twist in the BB ENIGMA.

 

[Aheadatime]

I'm thinking it's a store bought wine/beverage Tinn, as Ben would need to have consistency in order to start a business imo. Just did a quick google search on turning wine into vinegar and that would make sense, given Ben's long delays in the past and availability issues. Apparently it takes a few weeks for the process to complete, and would also explain the lack of alcohol in Boba's (or the fact that it has only a negligible amount).

Does anyone have the link to Ben stating that he created Boba's for a friend who liked to have a smoke with a particular drink? I know it's discussed as if it's fact, but I've never seen the quote myself.

 

[Aal_]

I remember that the phrase meant the friend enjoyed his drink with a cigarette, and that what Boba's does, it imitates both the drink and the cigarette. I think Tinnman is spot on with the idea of wine turning into vinegar, it satisfies the background notes, the vinegar people seem to feel, and the no-alcohol aftermath. But we had our share of spot on ideas before . Tinnman I hope you get it.

 

[Aheadatime]

I remember that the phrase meant the friend enjoyed his drink with a cigarette, and that what Boba's does, it imitates both the drink and the cigarette. I think Tinnman is spot on with the idea of wine turning into vinegar, it satisfies the background notes, the vinegar people seem to feel, and the no-alcohol aftermath. But we had our share of spot on ideas before . Tinnman I hope you get it.

Yeah I've heard this before but never actually seen the quote/link myself. I've seen the quote where he says no alcohol and the one where he says its not a NET, but I've never seen him say anything about this being based on a drink/cig combo.

 

[Drip Drops]

What type of Vinegar is used in Slowhands recipe?

 

[Aal_]

What type of Vinegar is used in Slowhands recipe?

White vinegar

 

[RGtheKID]

anyone tried #7 with TFA Black mild?

 

[mudshovel]

So.. Where are we at on this.. I am planning on getting into DIY here shortly and want to attempt a Boba's clone.. Also, is there a place to get all the required flavors? I find one here and one there..

 

[SloHand]

anyone tried #7 with TFA Black mild?

Yes. Not the Boba magic flavor but good all the same.

 

[SloHand]

So.. Where are we at on this.. I am planning on getting into DIY here shortly and want to attempt a Boba's clone.. Also, is there a place to get all the required flavors? I find one here and one there..

That would be way too easy LOL.

 

[SloHand]

Haven't posted here in a while. I've been the recipient of a 'bad' nic that has given me trouble. I'm now second guessing all the last 20 or so test flavors I've been working on.

Yet another reason we really need some kind of regulations so that we can count on quality from all sources.

Flavors are really something that's peeving me off too. Same flavor, ordered 2 months apart and guess what? Not even close to the first batch flavor. It's not a wonder that even with the old stalwart flavors out there we notice some slight variations.

Can't say I'm all that displeased. I've really enjoyed many of my recipes but getting them consistent? .......

 

[RGtheKID]

Yes. Not the Boba magic flavor but good all the same.

the same percent as the b&m from ecx?

 

[NamVet68]

the same percent as the b&m from ecx?

For me, the B&M was too strong and overpowered the #7 recipe.... I cut the % in half, and it was definitely more balanced...like SloHand said- not the "Magic Mystery Boba's" but a very nice tasty juice all the same.....

JMHO

 

[Aal_]

I got a batch of B&M from Juice Factory. has anyone tried it. It smells amazing, but unfortunately I will not have time to make #7 before some time.