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Is it like a black and mild? Hard to distinguish with the plus. Though I only tasted the second it arrived. Waiting on black honey and captain to arrive to mix.

From what I remember of Black And Milds, it is pretty close. Anyway it is very tasty. Haven't tried it with the wine yet, so I can't compare them. Maybe I'll give it a shot next. I have 120ml of black jack so it will be a while. I haven't tried anything from other suppliers, I like the fact I can go to flavor shack and try them out first. I feel I could be missing out on some really good flavors though.
 
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So this one is GJ, rather than BB with the banana? If so, good, because I was wanting a close GJ :)

For boba, it should be a tiny bit of banana cream. Increase the banana cream for a pretty close to GJ flavor.

That recipe isn't 100% BB, but it's the closest I've found so far. (I have not tried all the recipes in this thread yet though.)

for 480ml I used 16ml smooth, 3.2ml Vanilla bourbon, 16ml coconut, 16ml graham cracker, 35.2 banana cream, 24ml sweetner, then my vg and nic

For GJ I increased the banana cream to 44.2ml

(I personally don't think BB has the banana cream, but i can't nail down the other ingredient, sorry, but i think it's a cream of some sort)
 

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HONEY.One thing I can say is there's honey in bobas whether it's straight honey or from Black Honey is a question to be answered. I can smell it on the exhaled vapor of bobas. It has the"musty"odor that I've only ever gotten from liquids with honey in them....

Has bobas ever etched plastic tanks? I didn't find anything saying so. If there was cinnamon in there wouldn't that cause etching?
 

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HONEY.One thing I can say is there's honey in bobas whether it's straight honey or from Black Honey is a question to be answered. I can smell it on the exhaled vapor of bobas. It has the"musty"odor that I've only ever gotten from liquids with honey in them....

Has bobas ever etched plastic tanks? I didn't find anything saying so. If there was cinnamon in there wouldn't that cause etching?

There definitely is honey in it, but there is no cinnamon in it. It wont crack a tank.
 

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There definitely is honey in it, but there is no cinnamon in it. It wont crack a tank.

Feel the same. Just seems every clone recipe has cinnamon in it.
3 tobacco types and two additional flavorings. Working away now. Eliminating all attempts containing cinnamon.
 

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3 tobacco types
2 additional flavorings
That's 25%, at 40% appears a little dark. One of the flavorings is both light or dark depending on the company.
 
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Indeed. I'm holding off. I think I may have found the flavorings, one of which I've never seen mentioned. Has what people might think is the coconut. I did equal amounts of the 5. I think that ratio is off. Will work on the proportions.

I started to vape in January and have been cigarette free since. Tried many different juices and found some I like, but I'm anxious to start DIY. I spent several hours today finding and placing the necessary ingredients into the cart to make clones of Boba's and HHV Legend, but will hold off on pulling the trigger after reading your post. Hope you get it. Thanks.
 

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Here's mine at a true 25% next to real bobas on the left. Flash amplified the difference.
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Little dark.
Hopefully others know,is it really 40% flavoring?
I know my proportions are off. I think the 3 tobaccos are at lower percentages than the other 2 ingredients. I also think the honey used is a light colored honey flavoring especially if it's 40%. I think the Graham cracker is tfa and because it's so subtle on its own I think it's a heavy pour in bobas because you can really taste it.

The other part is lack of zero nic offering. Extract, tobacco absolute? Or just to throw everyone off? I have a LOT of the notes. Will mix more tomorrow....
 

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Here's mine at a true 25% next to real bobas on the left. Flash amplified the difference.
e9usube5.jpg

Little dark.
Hopefully others know,is it really 40% flavoring?
I know my proportions are off. I think the 3 tobaccos are at lower percentages than the other 2 ingredients. I also think the honey used is a light colored honey flavoring especially if it's 40%. I think the Graham cracker is tfa and because it's so subtle on its own I think it's a heavy pour in bobas because you can really taste it.

The other part is lack of zero nic offering. Extract, tobacco absolute? Or just to throw everyone off? I have a LOT of the notes. Will mix more tomorrow....

By the way when I used to get boba in high nic before, it used to be darker. Hope that helps.
 

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Here's mine at a true 25% next to real bobas on the left. Flash amplified the difference.
e9usube5.jpg

Little dark.
Hopefully others know,is it really 40% flavoring?
I know my proportions are off. I think the 3 tobaccos are at lower percentages than the other 2 ingredients. I also think the honey used is a light colored honey flavoring especially if it's 40%. I think the Graham cracker is tfa and because it's so subtle on its own I think it's a heavy pour in bobas because you can really taste it.

The other part is lack of zero nic offering. Extract, tobacco absolute? Or just to throw everyone off? I have a LOT of the notes. Will mix more tomorrow....

Is it 40% flavor extract? Or 40% flavor mix that's you already diluted into VG/PG before the final mix? If it's 40% extract, then that is excessive flavoring, and I don't think you would need that much, unless the flavor extract is weak on taste.
 

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Not extract. Concentrated flavoring. Equal parts of all 5. Though as I said honey flavoring which causes the bubbles and gives the musky/musty smell to the exhaled vapor, comes in dark or light color depending on the maker. I used dark on that particular mix.

Later will mix the proportions I believe are in Bobas using a light honey and actually they add to 40%. Given the flavors I think are heavier it shouldn't be overwhelming in flavor.

I don't have TA just yet. On its way. Also found a TA that isn't Bulgarian but, from Spain. I didn't order it. It's description said honey notes. Will see what I get with traditional TA first once I have it.

Any dilution tips for the TA?
I'm aware of scubabatdan's recipe which is
10ml PG
2 drops TA
1/4 Tsp ethyl maltol
Is that the way to go? If you recommend the EM then could I add 2 drops TA to already mixed EM with the same results? Thanks ahead

Edit: answered my own question. 1/4tsp in 10ml is just over 10% which is seems to be what pre-mixed EM crystals are at. Still hoping someone who has experience with TA can recommend using EM or not.
 
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Not extract. Concentrated flavoring. Equal parts of all 5. Though as I said honey flavoring which causes the bubbles and gives the musky/musty smell to the exhaled vapor, comes in dark or light color depending on the maker. I used dark on that particular mix.

Later will mix the proportions I believe are in Bobas using a light honey and actually they add to 40%. Given the flavors I think are heavier it shouldn't be overwhelming in flavor.

I don't have TA just yet. On its way. Also found a TA that isn't Bulgarian but, from Spain. I didn't order it. It's description said honey notes. Will see what I get with traditional TA first once I have it.

Any dilution tips for the TA?
I'm aware of scubabatdan's recipe which is
10ml PG
2 drops TA
1/4 Tsp ethyl maltol
Is that the way to go? If you recommend the EM then could I add 2 drops TA to already mixed EM with the same results? Thanks ahead

Edit: answered my own question. 1/4tsp in 10ml is just over 10% which is seems to be what pre-mixed EM crystals are at. Still hoping someone who has experience with TA can recommend using EM or not.

Eddie, I'm just a newbie. Given that fact, I don't know squat, but I do have decent taste buds :). I have some HHV Legend that I really like and some French Pipe from ECJ my current ADV. I bought 120 ml of the FP on sale a few weeks ago just taking a chance , that worked out great. The FP has a surprisingly similar flavor to Legend, but smoother with less TH. Do you do a Legend clone? Thanks.
 
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