My coil problems must end...

[built4feel]

I think its OK to have the wick touch the legs (LOL) , especially if their are no hot legs...just throwing it out there as a possible issue...

Honestly, it sounds too much wick to me... or not sqonking enough. That's what I've concluded from when ta dry hit happens for me... good to have u back sloth, how was your trip BTW?

 

[pesky_human]

The hot leg problem would be a bit better if you practice with getting good 90 degree bends on your leads to get them spaced out the same width as the posts. All your coils including the outside ones need to be tight to the others. Then mount it and do quick pulses looking for hot legs. Gently squeeze with tweezers and the hot legs should go away and the coil should start glowing from the center to the outside.
The wick problem sounds like you may not have enough wick or are not getting good saturation when squonking. The wick should fill the coil completely but not be tight, and squeeze and hold it for a 3 to 5 count before releasing. Take off the drip tip and watch to be sure you are getting complete saturation.

This so much. Depends on the atty, as far as where the holes are and where your legs needs to go, but the straighter the route, the better the results. I use needlenose pliers, myself, but tweezers will work probably even better because the chance of applying too much force and squashing the coil onto itself is mitigated.

I almost always have hot legs whenever I build coils at first, no matter how careful I am. Once I have the coil / coils built and the ohms checked, I mount on the Reo with a fresh battery and get the coils orange. Release the button and immediately squeeze the coil to get all of the loops together. Eliminates hot legs around 95% of the time. If they won't go away for some reason, I just throw the coil away and start over. On the RM2 I had more frequent hot leg problems because my post holes were off in crazy different directions. On the Odin I haven't had to trash a single coil due to hot legs. Had to trash a few because they were coming in at .3 ohms, but not because of build. The Odin allows the legs to come straight off the coil almost without any bending. Usually it is just one squeeze and it is good to go.

The wick has no effect on hot legs in my experience.

 

[AzPlumber]

Have you considered the hot spot may be something other than hot legs. Maybe the positive post insulator is compromised and it is arcing across. If hot legs are the issue you can either drape the wick over them or when making the coil fold your ends over and twist them so the legs have more mass and less resistance.

 

[Big Hitter]

I know this is no help .........

But I prefer the Chalice and the double amputee coil ....... No legs = no chance of hot legs.

 

[Treebeard]

This so much. Depends on the atty, as far as where the holes are and where your legs needs to go, but the straighter the route, the better the results. I use needlenose pliers, myself, but tweezers will work probably even better because the chance of applying too much force and squashing the coil onto itself is mitigated.

I almost always have hot legs whenever I build coils at first, no matter how careful I am. Once I have the coil / coils built and the ohms checked, I mount on the Reo with a fresh battery and get the coils orange. Release the button and immediately squeeze the coil to get all of the loops together. Eliminates hot legs around 95% of the time. If they won't go away for some reason, I just throw the coil away and start over. On the RM2 I had more frequent hot leg problems because my post holes were off in crazy different directions. On the Odin I haven't had to trash a single coil due to hot legs. Had to trash a few because they were coming in at .3 ohms, but not because of build. The Odin allows the legs to come straight off the coil almost without any bending. Usually it is just one squeeze and it is good to go.

The wick has no effect on hot legs in my experience.

Have you considered the hot spot may be something other than hot legs. Maybe the positive post insulator is compromised and it is arcing across. If hot legs are the issue you can either drape the wick over them or when making the coil fold your ends over and twist them so the legs have more mass and less resistance.

I, and many others I suspect, use Pesky's method. I never get hot legs once I pulse the coils and compress them all together.

As Az said, check for other potential problems. I've had problems from tiny snippets of wire inside the post. I've had to fish them out with a magnetized needle.

 

[Sloth Tonight]

Seems vapor is usually coming from right around the post holes...but if something with the posts was the problem, i wonder why the last coil i had on this RM2 was working fine. this is really weird for sure.

not to sound arrogant but again I'm 100% positive this is NOT a wicking issue the coil is no more choked than my cat although when she screams outside at night sometimes i want to...

it's either the coil or as some have just mentioned maybe a post or something...

I kind of want to switch coils since the one i got last night doesn't taste ideal to me - BUT it's relatively good, so i'm scared to lol

i may just drive to texas and chill with superx LOL i have a feeling if somebody saw it in person it'd be like a lightbulb, but that's probably 80 hours away or something

 

[Sloth Tonight]

I think its OK to have the wick touch the legs (LOL) , especially if their are no hot legs...just throwing it out there as a possible issue...

Honestly, it sounds too much wick to me... or not sqonking enough. That's what I've concluded from when ta dry hit happens for me... good to have u back sloth, how was your trip BTW?

trip was both fantastic and miserable - was sick as hell the first 2 days, sick the rest of the time but well enough to go hiking. i hiked a lot and got to feeling better. perfect weather and best foliage i've ever seen the colors are vibrant like the swollen lips of a nectarine goddess thanks for asking

 

[RSZ1]

Have you tried an "ugly" coil without the wraps touching?

 

[Sloth Tonight]

no sir, i've been told it is harder to avoid hot legs, that said i was thinking about trying one soon...

 

[muzichead]

Seems vapor is usually coming from right around the post holes...but if something with the posts was the problem, i wonder why the last coil i had on this RM2 was working fine. this is really weird for sure.

not to sound arrogant but again I'm 100% positive this is NOT a wicking issue the coil is no more choked than my cat although when she screams outside at night sometimes i want to...

it's either the coil or as some have just mentioned maybe a post or something...

I kind of want to switch coils since the one i got last night doesn't taste ideal to me - BUT it's relatively good, so i'm scared to lol

i may just drive to texas and chill with superx LOL i have a feeling if somebody saw it in person it'd be like a lightbulb, but that's probably 80 hours away or something

You can certainly drive to Texas, but don't think you'll be chillin' with Russ... He lives in Georgia!!!

 

[Sloth Tonight]

oh then that's closer LOL only 20~ish hours

 

[Sloth Tonight]

ok maybe this is worth mentioning. i haven't thought this to be the problem but now i'm wondering if related...

one of my screws on this particular RM2 is stripped a bit. that is - the top is stripped so when im screwing it down its easy for the screwdriver to slide off it, so it takes a bit to get it snug. i DO get it snug easily though. but, every coil for a while, it hasn't been snug enough when i first fire it (safely--on the MVP) then the ohms wander and i continue to tighten until its solid. don't worry - i test it THOROUGHLY before mounting on the REO. but could this have anything to do with it?

i haven't thought so - because i was having the same coil issue on the other RM2 until i got a good one. and trust me that coil ain't budgin until its dead but it's been going for 3 weeks so...could be in a week or a month who knows

ps I do have a spare screw, just haven't replaced it yet since it's been working but if it could be a source of problem i will swap promptly

 

[Sloth Tonight]

ok - ...

i don't have an answer to my troubles but i do have a kick ayuss coil at the moment

what did i do differently? 1 thing: free wrapped on a 5/64 drill bit

so I guess 2 things are different from my recent norm actually...the hand wrapping vs gizmo and the 5/64 instead of 1/16

ok it's because I got fed up, had used literally 6ml of juice testing bad coils. decided to try something totally different. decided to hand wrap. lost my 1/16 drill bit while on vacation went next size up. the first coil looked good until i squeezed it and wound up deforming it a lot - so never tried vaping. did a second one. now guys this was hasty and sloppy. the coil was not perfectly touching. i did not bend the legs towards the posts at an angle - nothing. mounted it, then slid the gizmo rod (slightly smaller than the drill bit) in and started cueing and pulling. squeezed it a few times to get those wraps touching. legs glowing slightly out towards the posts but not too bad. by no means did it really look vapable to me, because of those legs glowing a bit, but frustrated i decided to try it. wicked it. never wicked this diameter with KGD so was not sure with that either - but cut a good strip that fit well.

not only does this vape fine, it tastes GREAT.

i'm horrified of re-wicking because it may deform over use and show its true colors as dry - but who knows maybe it will continue to rock.

i did tuck the wick nicely against the legs since they were glowing, maybe a cheat to make it vape fine?

ugh happy to have a vape, more confused than ever. no idea why a way-less-than-ideal-not-totally-even-etc coil is vaping fine where my seemingly near perfect coils off the gizmo were not. to boot - my coil troubles began before the gizmo, so the troubles have not been limited to gizmo coils.

but this is rocking. oh - it's 1.1 ohm, more in my preferred range, maybe that's the reason for the shockingly-great taste, or maybe im one who prefers a larger ID

 

[BockinBboy]

Skimming through the thread here and there... it sounds like you are having more trouble over-analysing it than anything. Go back to the basics and try to act like you don't know all the 'advanced' tricks toward a 'perfect' coil and wicking. I find that taking a step back to an old, gruelling problem and looking at it with a fresher eyes AND mind, you can usually find the problem/solution. I say this because I do think you are more than capable of getting to your perfect vape... I've seen 'less than qualified' folks with tremendous results :whisper: I mean, heck, look at SuperX! (just funning you, Russ!)

- Bboy

 

[Sloth Tonight]

funny - my partner said the SAME thing to me when she got home today and I told her how i have a working coil. She said i was worrying too much about precision. thanks for the input Bockin and the encouragement. next time I coil i'll do it the same way - hand wrap without thinking, and see how it goes again.

 

[super_X_drifter]

Skimming through the thread here and there... it sounds like you are having more trouble over-analysing it than anything. Go back to the basics and try to act like you don't know all the 'advanced' tricks toward a 'perfect' coil and wicking. I find that taking a step back to an old, gruelling problem and looking at it with a fresher eyes AND mind, you can usually find the problem/solution. I say this because I do think you are more than capable of getting to your perfect vape... I've seen 'less than qualified' folks with tremendous results :whisper: I mean, heck, look at SuperX! (just funning you, Russ!)

- Bboy

That's no lie BBoy. I'm just a lucky S O B. But what I do know I either learned on here or figured out on my own

Trial and very few errors is what I'm fortunate to have experienced

I like it

 

[BockinBboy]

We all earn at least one phD in our lives - that's one of Trial and Errors.



- Bboy

 

[Sloth Tonight]

where you at in Georgia Russ? I have no idea why I thought you were in Texas I spent a lot of time in GA during college, mainly Atlanta playing music

 

[super_X_drifter]

where you at in Georgia Russ? I have no idea why I thought you were in Texas I spent a lot of time in GA during college, mainly Atlanta playing music

I'm about 40 miles north of Atlanta I'm on the 75 / 575 corridor

 

[Sloth Tonight]

Next time I visit my dad in TN, I may also make a trip to Athens to see a friend. I would love to share a vape with ya on my way, brother!

Thanks for your videos - they are incredibly helpful.