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[Mone415]

Just tested. I agree. I may drop one more steep with cap off and c what happens. But I like it at this percentage as well.

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

Subscribed for obvious reasons, thanks for going the extra mile and posting in such a detailed manner.

Maurice

 

[Mone415]

Hey so I was trying to experiment with diff VG/PG mix percentages. I'm mainly uh VG guy but would like to try PG but seriously can't find any I like. I don't kno if my taste buds r too sensitive or what but the PG that I have used thus far have been so bitter it was unvapeable. Is this common in PG? Maybe some1 can steer 2 uh good brand I can try.

 

[flowerpots]

Hey so I was trying to experiment with diff VG/PG mix percentages. I'm mainly uh VG guy but would like to try PG but seriously can't find any I like. I don't kno if my taste buds r too sensitive or what but the PG that I have used thus far have been so bitter it was unvapeable. Is this common in PG? Maybe some1 can steer 2 uh good brand I can try.

I've not personally had any bitter PG. But, I have read on the threads that others have had both PG and VG as well as nicotine solutions with aftertaste. I do think some people are more sensitive to this, but that's not to say that aftertaste and quality differences aren't real. Again, this may be a part of you sub-ohming experience as that does, I have heard, intensify taste.

I'm not sure what vendors you have purchased from so far. If you have bought PG at some place like Wal-Mart, a feed store, any local pharmacy, or similar place, it may be a quality issue. I personally have purchased my bases from both WL (Wizard Labs) and HDV (High Desert Vapes), which carries WL bases, I think ecigexpress, and VT (Vaperstek). I completely recommend VT for the cleanest taste in both PG and VG and nicotine, especially since you do seem to notice subtleties in flavor and are sub-ohming. But, that's not to say I've had a problem with WL products. I like WL and will continue to purchase from them. But, I am not as sensitive and also use equipment that tends to somewhat mute flavor. You may want to ask around in other threads too as there are many vendors that sell bases and I have only tried a handful of them so far. So, my experience is limited.

Vapers Tek

Wizard Labs

P.S. Vaperstek sells Inawera bases and U.K. sourced nicotine. The bases come in several varieties. Look at them on the VT website if you visit it. I have their VPG Power Smoke Base, which is 45%VG/45%PG/10%distilled water. This is a clean base - I can vouch for that. I would recommend it. But, if you want a higher % VG, you could purchase a bottle of their VG separately and add that to the VPG base to achieve whatever ratio you desire.

 

[flowerpots]

Subscribed for obvious reasons, thanks for going the extra mile and posting in such a detailed manner.

Maurice

Hey there, Maurice...good to see you here.

 

[Mone415]

I've not personally had any bitter PG. But, I have read on the threads that others have had both PG and VG as well as nicotine solutions with aftertaste. I do think some people are more sensitive to this, but that's not to say that aftertaste and quality differences aren't real. Again, this may be a part of you sub-ohming experience as that does, I have heard, intensify taste.

I'm not sure what vendors you have purchased from so far. If you have bought PG at some place like Wal-Mart, a feed store, any local pharmacy, or similar place, it may be a quality issue. I personally have purchased my bases from both WL (Wizard Labs) and HDV (High Desert Vapes), which carries WL bases, I think Ecigexpress, and VT (Vaperstek). I completely recommend VT for the cleanest taste in both PG and VG and nicotine, especially since you do seem to notice subtleties in flavor and are sub-ohming. But, that's not to say I've had a problem with WL products. I like WL and will continue to purchase from them. But, I am not as sensitive and also use equipment that tends to somewhat mute flavor. You may want to ask around in other threads too as there are many vendors that sell bases and I have only tried a handful of them so far. So, my experience is limited.

Vapers Tek

Wizard Labs

P.S. Vaperstek sells Inawera bases and U.K. sourced nicotine. The bases come in several varieties. Look at them on the VT website if you visit it. I have their VPG Power Smoke Base, which is 45%VG/45%PG/10%distilled water. This is a clean base - I can vouch for that. I would recommend it. But, if you want a higher % VG, you could purchase a bottle of their VG separately and add that to the VPG base to achieve whatever ratio you desire.

Thanx a lot flowerpots. I'll look into that. I've gotten my vg pg mainly from essential depot. I did remember I had uh stash of vpg power smoke base I got for free from uh VT flavor purchase. I remember tasting it and thinkin it was 2 bitter. I jus tried it again and it's sweet first with uh hint of bitterness that doesn't seem that bad. I do think sub ohming intensifies the hell out if it because I wanted to rip my tongue out of my mouth after uh 100% pg flavor I made. Lol it was pretty bad. I may give this power smoke another shot tho. Thanx for remindin me. [emoji1]

 

[flowerpots]

I am mixing 1/3 of a 5ml bottle of the Hangsen Plum at 8% with 3mls of the steeping batch of Inawera Dark Fire tobacco at 16 drops/5ml

This is really, really good!

This has been steeping about 10+ days since I last tasted it in a LR510 atty. The Plum is not overt, very subtle. This is very good as is, somewhat complex because of the tobacco, but I'm going to add some FA Apricot to see what happens at 5%. I will let this steep a few days before retesting.

No discernible Apricot - adding 2% more.

The Apricot at 7% has brightened this mix, the Plum is a background flavor. I cannot overtly taste the Apricot. The brightness brings balance to the earthy, vinegary darkness of the Dark Fire tobacco. It's a nice balance. I think if I add a higher % of Apricot, it will mask the Plum altogether and throw the balance in the direction of a lighter tobacco. I don't personally want this. So, I'm going to call it good as is. I rate this 6/10.

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INA Dark Fire tobacco 5%
Hangsen Plum 2%
FA Apricot 7%

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I decided to play with this again, and after re-testing before I add anything else, this is a nicer mix than I originally rated it. Because there is no DNB, it lacks that ashy note present in the other Dark Fire sample for the Dark Horse recipe. I am not sure what to add to this as I am not a mint/menthol fan, and not too keen on vanilla notes either. I thought about a nut flavor, like hazelnut or chestnut, or maybe even almond. But, just from tasting this a few moments ago, that doesn't seem to be the best choice. My thought is I could add just a pinch of cardamom, ginger, or even honey. Each would have a different result, although cardamom and ginger would have similar effects. My initial conclusion is the honey would smooth it out too much, even at <1%, and possibly mask the plum and apricot. Then, what would be the point. I think I'll go with cardamom at 1 drop and see what happens over the next few days.

At 1 drop to this 5ml sample, the cardamom is subtle, but noticeable immediately at first taste. Then, the cardamom fades to apricot notes, followed by plum notes. The tobacco is present the entire time with medium impact. I'm going to add 1 more drop of cardamom to see how it goes.

Cardamom now has medium impact. Spice is detectable the entire vape. DF tobaccco is still medium impact, the first note, and the carrier note. The Plum and Apricot are not overtly discernible, but provide a fruity layer - cannot distinguish between the plum and apricot now. If you want less spice impact, 1 drop/5mls is good.

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Variation of this recipe:

INA WG Dark Fire 5%
Hangsen Plum 2%
FA Apricot 7%
FA Cardamom 1-2 drops/5ml

 

[flowerpots]

Latest test with 16 drops/5ml or 48 drops/15ml sample:

Dark Fire - INA (WG) - This is as as strong as I will want this flavor either standalone or in a mix.

Fragrance: 2/5
Throat hit: 2/5
Sweetness: 2.5/5
Sourness: 2/5
Strength of taste: 4/5

These single flavor tobacco samples have been steeping almost a month.

Separate out 5ml of the Dark Fire tobacco and add 1 drop of Inawera DNB (Dirty Neutral Base) to give it that ashy note.

This has steeping a few days. Oh my! As good as this is, I'm going to add a drop of Hangsen Plum and see what happens.

This is developing into something recipe-worthy...it needs another drop of Plum.

This has been steeping a few more days. The Plum is more present now. The DNB adds a dryer feel to the mix, and takes any sweetness from it. I am going to add CAP Fig at 2% to add a sweetness, but also to compliment the dark tobacco and dark Plum fruit. When I tested CAP Fig, it had a slight floral note to it, so I will steep with the cap off to dissipate the note.

The only thing this accomplished was sweetening the mix and took away the ashy note, that I wanted. I will add back in 1 more drop of DNB.

With the DNB added back in, that ashy note is back! And with a few more days of steeping, I can taste the Fig now with the Plum about equally represented as the Fig. This is my favorite mix so far. I'm going to stick a fork in it and call it done. I rate it 8/10 as a recipe.

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Dark Horse

INA Dark Fire Tobacco (WG) - 5%
Hangsen Plum - 2%
CAP Fig 2%
INA DNB - 2 drops/5ml

*Steep 1 week to 1 month without UC/Heat; if you use UC/Heat, adjust time accordingly

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Even though I stopped at that point and made the mix a recipe, I want to play with it more. So, I am going to add to it WG Apple to see if adding a bright note will enhance this mix or not. I only want just a small amount, nothing that will overwhelm what is already there, so I will only add 1 drop.

The apple flavor is very faint. I will add 1 more drop and steep.

The apple is prefect now and provides a crisp juicy balance to the dark tobacco/dark fruits. The ashy note is still distinguishable, but only as a medium dirty note.

Orchard Horse:

INA WG Dark Fire 5%
Hangsen Plum 2%
CAP Fig 2%
INA WG Apple 1.5%
INA DNB 2drop/5ml

 

[flowerpots]

Latest test with 16 drops/5ml:

Virginia - INA (WG - tino d'milano) - Also added 2 drops of Virginia TA in the 5ml sample; I think this is as strong as I want it either standalone or in a mix.

Fragrance: 2/5
Throat hit: 1/5
Sweetness: 3.5/5
Strength of taste: 3.5/5

These single flavor tobacco samples have been steeping almost a month.


3) Separate out 5ml of the Inawera WG - tino d'milano Virginia tobacco and add 1 drop of the DNB

DNB is equally good in this tobacco, but the effect is a little different. Virginia is bright, but mellow, and the DNB adds a layer to the mix.

I am going to add INA Black Currant to this mix at 5% and let it steep.

Holy Moly, 5% is WAY too much Blackcurrant....adding 3mls of the steeping tobacco batch to tone this down a bit.

Still too much Blackcurrant....adding back in 2 more mls of the steeping VA tobacco

I am trying here to make the process of my calculations both transparent and thus easily replicated, and also to help me keep track of what I have done.

I started out with a 5ml steeped sample of the tino d'milano Virginia with an added 2 drops of TA Virginia (which is a little less than 1%). I added 2 drops of the DNB (which is a little less than 1%). I then added 5% of the Blackcurrant flavoring, which proved to be way too high of a %. So, I added back in a total of 5 more mls of the steeping tino d'milano Virginia. This made a 10ml sample with what is now approximately 0.5% of each the DNB and TA Virginia, and what is now 2.5% of the Blackcurrant (which equals 0.25mls - difficult to measure for some so also equal to 15 drops of the needle nose Inawera stock bottle that measures when tested 60 drops/ml).

Now when testing in a 510LR atty, the Blackcurrant flavor is moderate and mildly tart. It dominates the tobacco flavor, despite the addition of DNB and TA Virginia. The tobacco is in the background, barely discernible, and it seems it makes this mix now what I would consider a rich fruit flavor more than a fruity tobacco much like many vendor commercial juices that are categorized as a tobacco, but do not have a tobacco taste to them (this is considering taste description alone, not based on actual ingredients, if that makes sense). I can detect a very slight hint of ashiness, but nothing like the flavor you get with the tobacco and DNB alone. After testing several mixes at this point that include DNB, I am reasonably sure that I can say with confidence the fruit additions mask the DNB and result in requiring a higher % of the DNB to maintain that obvious ashy note. This is still rich, and I'm not sure if you put this in a RBA atty or tank the different ingredients would be more present and provide a more complex vape. I would say if you are looking for a tobacco that shines more as a complex fruit, then this recipe as is would work. But, I am wanting a tobacco presence, so I am going to add 1 more ml of the steeping VA tobacco.

The Black Currant is a nice mild note now, not overpowering the recipe. According the flavoring pairings chart, citrus goes well with black currant, so I rummaged through my flavors and found FW Blood Orange. I am going to add this at 1% and steep.

Let me preface my impression by saying this - I'm not a fan of orange flavors, oranges, orange juice, etc. But, the blood orange is complimentary in this recipe, bringing a bright, acidic note to it. At 1%, for me the orange flavor is perfect. If you happen to really enjoy orange, you may want to bump it up to 2%.

Mellow Orange-Currant Tobacco:

INA WG (tino d' milano) Virginia Tobacco - 5%
INA TA Virgina - 2 drops/10ml
INA DNB - 2 drops/10ml
INA Blackcurrant - 2%
FW Blood Orange - 1%

 

[flowerpots]

I am mixing 1/3 of a 5ml bottle of the Inawera Cherry (CZERESNIE) at 8% with 2/3 of a 5ml bottle of the Hangsen Plum at 8% to test these in combination.

Very good

I let this mix steep a couple more days and it is just getting better. This is a richer fruit mix, not light like many of them. The Cherry adds a rich savory note (it's like cherry pie filling/cherry compote) and the Plum is crisper and just a little brighter. It is layered and has a lot of potential. It's fine as is, and some may like it without any adjustments, but I want to keep tweaking to see if I can find that perfect recipe. So, I'm thinking of adding maybe Apricot or Nectarine to it.

I added 12% of TFA Nectarine to this the other night. It seems to have melded into a 1 dimensional juice. I'm going to let it steep longer. I think I added too much Nectarine.

At the % I added the Nectarine, it is dominant now. The sharp note from the Nectarine is in the forefront. There is a slight Cherry on the exhale. The Plum is present the whole time as a sort of carrier flavor, but not overtly discernible. I think had I used a lower % of the Nectarine, this would be a better mix. Again, this is a simple fruit, not complex. With no added sweetener, other than what is in the flavorings themselves, this mix is not candy sweet, but sweet enough for my palate. Just to see what happens to this mix, I am going to add a very low % of TFA Lemon. Many DIY'ers use real lemon juice to alter the PH and post positive results from this. I am leery of using real juice, so I will use the Lemon flavoring instead to see if this adds any layers or complexity to the mix. I am not wanting the lemon to be discernible, only to compliment. I tested the Lemon and at 5% and it was weak in taste on a taste test. So, instead of starting with 5%, I will start with 2%.

This has mellowed and the sharp Nectarine bite is gone, with a medium Nectarine flavor. No discernible Cherry, except for a slight richness that most fruit flavors don't have, and no discernible Plum. No discernible lemon. I'm not sure what to do with this mix now. Any ideas? I'm thinking of adding Plum back into the mix to bring the flavor back into the profile.

After adding Plum back in, this is fairly complex, nothing like a dessert vape, but easily more complex than many fruit vapes out there. I'm going to try 2 drops of saline solution to see if this makes any difference.

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I did not notice any difference with 2 drops of saline with the 5ml sample. I added 2 more drops and do detect a "brighter" quality to the mix. But, this brightness also minimizes the complexity of the mix. So, I'm going to post the recipe for this and recommend not using saline. I rate this recipe 7/10.

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Ist recipe!


6% Plum
6% Nectarine
3% Maraschino Cherry
2% Lemon Flavor Concentrate (not lemon juice) *the lemon takes the sharp note off the nectarine, if you prefer that, omit the lemon

Steep 1 week (or more) or use heat/UC steeping

I’m still tweaking this and will post changes to it, if I make any

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So, I pulled this out and decided I need to keep tweaking this recipe as well. After just re-testing it in a LR510 atty, I'm honestly not sure what, if anything, will make this mix better. As I've mentioned before, I'm not wild about vanilla, mint/menthol notes. But, I think what would compliment this best is a mint or koolada addition. I hesitate to add koolada because it has proven to mask flavors and change a recipe, and I'm not wanting to take anything away from this, but add to it. So, I think I will go with mint. Specifically,I will use NF Mint. I will add 1 drop and see what the next few days of steeping brings to this mix.

At 1 drop of NF Mint to this recipe, the mint is only perceivable as a very subtle coolness. I will add 1 more drop and steep.

2 drops/5ml is perfect.

Cool Plum-Cherry Nectar:

6% Plum
6% Nectarine
3% Maraschino Cherry
2% Lemon Flavor Concentrate (not lemon juice)
2 drops/5ml mint flavor of your choice

 

[flowerpots]

I got NF Gooseberry in the mail this week. I'm excited to work with it, so I started a 10ml 1% standalone tester of this flavor. I will report my progress after it steeps a few days.

I tested this the next day and 1% was just too light. So, I added another 1% and continued to steep. This is still a bit too light, adding 1% more and will continue to steep.

I read the pairing chart for flavors to see what Gooseberry would match with and the only thing mentioned is Lychee, which surprises me. When I reach a good starting % of the Gooseberry, I may pair it with Lychee and see what happens.

This is now at 3% and steeped for a few days. 3% is probably good for people who enjoy lighter flavor/lower %'s, or maybe people who are sub=ohming. I like strong flavor, so I am going up another %.

This flavor comes with a 60 drops/ml needle-nose drip top. The calculation is 6 drops/%, so at 4% there are 24 drops/10ml sample.

 

[flowerpots]

I got NF Gooseberry in the mail this week. I'm excited to work with it, so I started a 10ml 1% standalone tester of this flavor. I will report my progress after it steeps a few days.

I tested this the next day and 1% was just too light. So, I added another 1% and continued to steep. This is still a bit too light, adding 1% more and will continue to steep.

I read the pairing chart for flavors to see what Gooseberry would match with and the only thing mentioned is Lychee, which surprises me. When I reach a good starting % of the Gooseberry, I may pair it with Lychee and see what happens.

This is now at 3% and steeped for a few days. 3% is probably good for people who enjoy lighter flavor/lower %'s, or maybe people who are sub=ohming. I like strong flavor, so I am going up another %.

This flavor comes with a 60 drops/ml needle-nose drip top. The calculation is 6 drops/%, so at 4% there are 24 drops/10ml sample.

4% is good medium strength flavor to work with. I am going to divide this 10ml sample into 3 equal parts to test with different flavors. Since this flavor is grape-esque, I am going to pair 2 flavors mentioned in the flavor chart that go well with grape along with the Lychee mentioned as pairing specifically with Gooseberry:

Bottle #1 - 2% TFA Lychee
Bottle #2 - 1% CAP Fig
Bottle #3 - 1% FW Blood Orange

I will let these steep a few days then test.

 

[flowerpots]

Each of these is at 11% concentration, tested on a LR510 atty:

Passion Fruit - TFA This now has a plastic taste to it. I'm going to stop testing this flavor and recommend using at 9% or less.

Fragrance: 1/5
Sweetness: 2.5/5
Tartness: 0.5/5
Strength of taste: 3/5

Quince - TFA Slight perfume note is gone this time with steeping for 4 days, cap off. However, the flavor is not getting any stronger after no changes for the past 3 % increases. I'm going to say this maxes out at 9%.

Fragrance: 1/5
Sweetness: 2/5
Tartness: 1/5
Strength of taste: 3/5

Blueberry Extra - TFA No change from 10%

Fragrance: 2/5
Sweetness: 2.5/5
Tartness: 0.5/5
Strength of taste: 3.5/5

Honeysuckle - TFA At this %, I still get that same honeysuckle flower taste, but also a chemical taste. I'm going to call this good at 9%.

Fragrance: 0.5/5
Sweetness: 3/5
Tartness: 0/5
Strength of taste: 3.5/5

Pomegranate Deluxe - TFA No change from 8%, 9%, or 10% and perfume note is still present with 4+ days steep, cap off. I'm going to call this flavor maxed out at 7%.

Fragrance: 1/5
Sweetness: 1.5/5
Tartness: 1.5/5
Strength of taste: 2.5/5

Strawberry (Ripe) - TFA I'm not a strawberry fan, but if I were, I would love this flavor. It's authentic, ripe, juicy strawberry, not candy-ish, and doesn't include the stem taste. I can tell if I bump this up 1% more, it will start tasting artificial/chemical. I'm going to call this flavor maxed out at 11%, with 10% being the best ceiling.

Fragrance: 3.5/5
Sweetness: 3/5
Tartness: 2/5
Strength of taste: 4/5

Orange Cream - TFA

Fragrance: 1/5
Sweetness: 2.5/5
Tartness: 0/5
Strength of taste: 3/5


I am going to continue testing Blueberry Extra, Strawberry and Orange Cream.

 

[Mone415]

Each of these is at 11% concentration, tested on a LR510 atty:

Passion Fruit - TFA This now has a plastic taste to it. I'm going to stop testing this flavor and recommend using at 9% or less.

Fragrance: 1/5
Sweetness: 2.5/5
Tartness: 0.5/5
Strength of taste: 3/5

Quince - TFA Slight perfume note is gone this time with steeping for 4 days, cap off. However, the flavor is not getting any stronger after no changes for the past 3 % increases. I'm going to say this maxes out at 9%.

Fragrance: 1/5
Sweetness: 2/5
Tartness: 1/5
Strength of taste: 3/5

Blueberry Extra - TFA No change from 10%

Fragrance: 2/5
Sweetness: 2.5/5
Tartness: 0.5/5
Strength of taste: 3.5/5

Honeysuckle - TFA At this %, I still get that same honeysuckle flower taste, but also a chemical taste. I'm going to call this good at 9%.

Fragrance: 0.5/5
Sweetness: 3/5
Tartness: 0/5
Strength of taste: 3.5/5

Pomegranate Deluxe - TFA No change from 8%, 9%, or 10% and perfume note is still present with 4+ days steep, cap off. I'm going to call this flavor maxed out at 7%.

Fragrance: 1/5
Sweetness: 1.5/5
Tartness: 1.5/5
Strength of taste: 2.5/5

Strawberry (Ripe) - TFA I'm not a strawberry fan, but if I were, I would love this flavor. It's authentic, ripe, juicy strawberry, not candy-ish, and doesn't include the stem taste. I can tell if I bump this up 1% more, it will start tasting artificial/chemical. I'm going to call this flavor maxed out at 11%, with 10% being the best ceiling.

Fragrance: 3.5/5
Sweetness: 3/5
Tartness: 2/5
Strength of taste: 4/5

Orange Cream - TFA

Fragrance: 1/5
Sweetness: 2.5/5
Tartness: 0/5
Strength of taste: 3/5


I am going to continue testing Blueberry Extra, Strawberry and Orange Cream.

Hey flowerpots. What percentage did u settle on for lychee? I tried searchin on Tapatalk and can't find it right now.

 

[flowerpots]

I also mixed the Dragon Fruit and Mango, both at 17%

The Dragon Fruit/Mango is interesting, but lacks something.

This has been steeping over a month. With just these 2 flavors, this is a mellow vape. The Mango definitely dominates, and the Dragon Fruit is a backnote, more noticeable on the exhale, at least to my palate. It is too 2-dimensional for me, though. I divided this 5ml bottle into 3rds, thereby making 3x1.5+ bottles of this mixture. I am adding:


Bottle #3) 1 drop of TFA Juicy Peach

Going to let these steep a few days

The bite of the Mango is what I notice first, along with medium Mango flavor. Then, I get a backnote of DF, subtle, and Peach is not discernible. I want to taste the peach. Going to add 2% more.

This is an interesting mix. I'm not sure what to think of it. The Dragon Fruit provides a constant background sour note. The Mango is medium strength, with a slight bite still. The Juicy Peach is now recognizable as a juicy note and sweet finish on the exhale. This is not something I would ordinarily vape, but it's interesting. I'm going to add a little watermelon and see what happens.

 

[flowerpots]

Hey flowerpots. What percentage did u settle on for lychee? I tried searchin on Tapatalk and can't find it right now.

For TFA Lychee 1% - 5%, FA Lychee is 1% - 4%

 

[Mone415]

Koo thank u dear. I don't like how FA lychee smelt TFA's tho smells awesome.

 

[flowerpots]

I got NF Gooseberry in the mail this week. I'm excited to work with it, so I started a 10ml 1% standalone tester of this flavor. I will report my progress after it steeps a few days.

I tested this the next day and 1% was just too light. So, I added another 1% and continued to steep. This is still a bit too light, adding 1% more and will continue to steep.

I read the pairing chart for flavors to see what Gooseberry would match with and the only thing mentioned is Lychee, which surprises me. When I reach a good starting % of the Gooseberry, I may pair it with Lychee and see what happens.

This is now at 3% and steeped for a few days. 3% is probably good for people who enjoy lighter flavor/lower %'s, or maybe people who are sub=ohming. I like strong flavor, so I am going up another %.

This flavor comes with a 60 drops/ml needle-nose drip top. The calculation is 6 drops/%, so at 4% there are 24 drops/10ml sample.

4% is good medium strength flavor to work with. I am going to divide this 10ml sample into 3 equal parts to test with different flavors. Since this flavor is grape-esque, I am going to pair 2 flavors mentioned in the flavor chart that go well with grape along with the Lychee mentioned as pairing specifically with Gooseberry:

Bottle #1 - 2% TFA Lychee
Bottle #2 - 1% CAP Fig
Bottle #3 - 1% FW Blood Orange

I will let these steep a few days then test.

Bottle #1 - 2% TFA Lychee = These 2 flavors mix well, better than I thought they would. The tart bite of the Lychee compliments the sour grape-ish flavor of the Gooseberry. The 2% Lychee is too strong to my palate, so I'm going to add back in 1% Gooseberry (3 drops), and test in a few days.

Bottle #2 - 1% CAP Fig = The Gooseberry dominates this mix with the Fig barely noticeable. I'm going to add 1% more Fig to bring it to the table.

Bottle #3 - 1% FW Blood Orange = This is really good. I'm not fond of orange flavored anything, but the Blood Orange works well. At 1%, it is present, but not drowning out the Gooseberry. The Gooseberry is more dominant on the inhale while the Blood Orange lingers on the exhale. I cleaned up the chart for pairing flavors before posting it in this thread, and I must have erased this: Gooseberry pairs well with: citrus, hazelnut, honey, other berries, white chocolate. I haven't worked yet with honey or white chocolate. So, I'm going to try TFA White Chocolate at 1% to see what happens.

 

[flowerpots]

I also mixed the Dragon Fruit and Mango, both at 17%

The Dragon Fruit/Mango is interesting, but lacks something.

This has been steeping over a month. With just these 2 flavors, this is a mellow vape. The Mango definitely dominates, and the Dragon Fruit is a backnote, more noticeable on the exhale, at least to my palate. It is too 2-dimensional for me, though. I divided this 5ml bottle into 3rds, thereby making 3x1.5+ bottles of this mixture. I am adding:


Bottle #3) 1 drop of TFA Juicy Peach

Going to let these steep a few days

The bite of the Mango is what I notice first, along with medium Mango flavor. Then, I get a backnote of DF, subtle, and Peach is not discernible. I want to taste the peach. Going to add 2% more.

This is an interesting mix. I'm not sure what to think of it. The Dragon Fruit provides a constant background sour note. The Mango is medium strength, with a slight bite still. The Juicy Peach is now recognizable as a juicy note and sweet finish on the exhale. This is not something I would ordinarily vape, but it's interesting. I'm going to add a little watermelon and see what happens.

This is just an odd fruit mix. It's not bad, it's just odd, at least to my palate. On the inhale, it's the 1% TFA Watermelon I taste, followed by a mix of the sour TFA Dragon Fruit and sharp TFA Mango note, then finishing with the Dragon Fruit. I don't detect the TFA Juicy Peach. I am going to try adding 1% TFA Blackberry and see what happens.

 

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New Fruit Flavors - Tested at approximately 20% in pure PG on my tongue.

Sweet Watermelon - CAP - Definitely sweet, less candy-ish than TFA. I think I like TFA Watermelon better though. But, INA WG Watermelon is my favorite authentic real fruit flavor without the rind.

Peach White - FA - This is an excellent peach flavor. Authentic, real fruit, and different than the usual yellow peach variety - cleaner, crisper and lighter.

Fuji - FA - This is authentic, sweet, crisp apple, but I would say just a little artificial tasting, but that may dissipate in mixing and steeping. I haven't tried all apple flavors yet, but so far, this is the best one for real fruit taste.

Mandarine - FA - Reminds me of the orange chews from childhood - the orange slices coated in a layer of sugar.