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This was an earlier build @ .4 ohm, same 24/28 gauge wires.
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This one ramped up quick as well (didn't take pics of the new build...but it's the same minus one wrap per coil :p)

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I know this came up a bit ago, but Nichrome is actually more dense than Kanthal. I think this is what causes its low resistance, and that low resistance is why it's claimed to heat up faster, as far as I can tell.

For claptons, I'd stick with Kanthal. I've never built one, but I think Kanthal will help keep the mass down.

I'll double check the density with SE, but that's what I remember from looking into Nichrome.

ETA: yep, depending on what number is after Nichrome, it's at least 14% more dense than Kanthal a1.
 
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I don't know if any of you guys have tried this wickless coil, similar to the Clapton, a bit different. I built it like the video except I used 28g n80 and 30g n80, that was all I have. Worked like the video except I only have a Big block 454 which is the wrong type to use but made it work, no go in the Veritas. Used it on mod Nemisis clone, heated up fast, I think it was .28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRtuorg0TQo ohms.
 

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This was an earlier build @ .4 ohm, same 24/28 gauge wires.
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This one ramped up quick as well (didn't take pics of the new build...but it's the same minus one wrap per coil :p)
I don't get it. The very first clapton I ever did was on kanthal and just like yours that was 28 around 24. That took like 8 years to ramp up. Around 5 wraps. That's the whole reason I went with nichrome but got similar results. How's that even possible?
 

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This was the very first clapton coil I did in my life. Also wrapped by hand. What a pain.
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done with kanthal 28 around 24 just like the dude above but mine also had less wraps. And took my whole life to ramp up. Why? :(

Because it's 395 ohms... Lol
My guess is your connections are not touching the center wire. Try tightening them down more.
Looks good, but wrapped by hand? Way more dedicated than me.... Lol


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Because it's 395 ohms... Lol
My guess is your connections are not touching the center wire. Try tightening them down more.
Looks good, but wrapped by hand? Way more dedicated than me.... Lol


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That was before I had a drill dude so I had no choice lol
And it's at .395 ohms. And the connections were always Super tight on all of these builds. I'm thinking - could it be the plume veil atty? Or should that have nothing to do with it :confused:
 

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That was before I had a drill dude so I had no choice lol
And it's at .395 ohms. And the connections were always Super tight on all of these builds. I'm thinking - could it be the plume veil atty? Or should that have nothing to do with it :confused:

That looks like the ohm reader I have, and it shows 0.XX for sub ohm coils... Could be different though, it's not like it's some authentic brand name :)
It seems like 28ga would have to be really short to get .3 from a single coil. My 5 wrap around 3/32 bit is about .36.. Seems like you'd have to take off way more than 1 wrap (assuming same ID) to get the same ohms from 28ga... And mines a parallel 26 ga in the inside... I guess it could be the atty, loose post? Iono I'm just guessing here lol


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That looks like the ohm reader I have, and it shows 0.XX for sub ohm coils... Could be different though, it's not like it's some authentic brand name :)
It seems like 28ga would have to be really short to get .3 from a single coil. My 5 wrap around 3/32 bit is about .36.. Seems like you'd have to take off way more than 1 wrap (assuming same ID) to get the same ohms from 28ga... And mines a parallel 26 ga in the inside... I guess it could be the atty, loose post? Iono I'm just guessing here lol


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Idk. I know for a fact that I used a 24g inside on that kanthal clapton. And the diameter was 3mm I think so more wire being used.

Never had an issue with the posts so why would it start now. How do I even check that?
 

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Idk. I know for a fact that I used a 24g inside on that kanthal clapton. And the diameter was 3mm I think so more wire being used.

Never had an issue with the posts so why would it start now. How do I even check that?

I thought you said it was 28ga? Sorry if I misunderstood, .4ish sounds about right for a 4wrap 24ga. If it's 28ga around the 24, that may be adding more mass causing the 24 ga to heat slower. I find 24 ga does good dual coil around .2 net on a mech, so adding the mass of the 28 around may be making it less responsive. I wonder if twisted 28ga with Clapton would be doable... I think the 28 would move around too much to Clapton in single or parallel at the core. Guessing tho


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That was before I had a drill dude so I had no choice lol

And it's at .395 ohms. And the connections were always Super tight on all of these builds. I'm thinking - could it be the plume veil atty? Or should that have nothing to do with it :confused:


Most readers won't read that way, looks like you were at almost 4 ohms, which would explain the slow ramp up. I exclusively use claptons in my kayfun, built to 1.2 ohm (28/32 gauge), on my 20 watt istick...... That heats up really quick as well :p
 

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This was the very first clapton coil I did in my life. Also wrapped by hand. What a pain.

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done with kanthal 28 around 24 just like the dude above but mine also had less wraps. And took my whole life to ramp up. Why? :(


Hand wrapping could be part of it... Coils won't be as tight, so you are using quite a bit more wire
 

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I'll try the clapton combo again tomorrow. Do you guys think it'd be a good idea to combine kanthal and nichrome together? Like nichrome inside kanthal outside?
What gauges should I try?

Twisted messes did a YouTube video with niacrome inside, kanthal out... But he used 36ga kanthal... That would be a nightmare for me... 32 was hard enough!


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I just did this...
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I know it looks like complete utter crap right now so I'm gonna redo it this afternoon and run dual. Just wanted to share with you guys that it lights up really quick.

It's a fused clapton 2 24's inside wrapped with 36g. All nichrome.

I'll post pictures of my new build later on this afternoon
 
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