My First Mechanical PV (lots of questions!)

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TheNaturalist

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Yesterday I picked up my first mech PV from my local vape store, for $200 I got the Magneto with a small rebuildable atomizer and a rasta glass driptip, they also threw in a battery charging pack with 3 batteries in different sizes. This is my first portable vape so the guys at the shop coiled the wick for me and also drilled out the hole so that I can take bigger rips (more airflow). I have smoked 20 or so different e-cigs in my life but when I tried this one out for the first time it blew my mind! The size of the clouds coming out of this thing are incredibly huge, its almost unsafe to puff while driving because the clouds are so thick you cant see where you are going :vapor:haha.

So overall I love my new piece, but now that Im starting to better understand how it works and have used it a bit more I am getting a better idea about what I really want. My atomizer hits great and is very easy to change flavors, but it doesnt hold enough juice for me to enjoy a "sesh" without having to rewet the wick multiple times.


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I could buy a new atomizer with a tank from the shop down the st and they would drill out the hole and even recoil the wick 5 times for me, but I think that their prices reflect all those included services and if I want to take this hobby serious and not go bankrupt in the process I need to figure out how to do this .... on my own! So thats why I am here, I really appreciate you all helping me out!

Anyways I found these two atomizers online within my budget:

AGA-T2
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Mini Vision Vivi Nova
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I am leaning towards the AGA-T2 which uses a stainless steal wick that is rebuildable, however Im a little worried that might be over my head to setup without the help of the guys at the shop which is why Im comparing it to the Mini Vision Vivi Nova which has replaceable coil heads that I can buy online.

SO here come the questions:

  • Are both of these atomizers compatible with my Magneto?
  • Is one of the two types of coil system generally better then the other?
  • Is there another atomizer that you would recommend for around $30?
  • Is my local shop that overpriced at $200 for everything i got?

Thank you for reading my first post on e-cigarette-forum.com! Im really excited about my new hobby and learning about it through this community!
 
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Are both of these atomizers compatible with my Magneto?

Yes

Is one of the two types of coil system generally better then the other?


The Aga is a true rebuildable. The Nova can be rebuilt, but the nova is a beginner's tank in comparison - and it comes with two extra "heads" you can install that come with set resistances. (without rebuilding)

Is there another atomizer that you would recommend for around $30?

RSST is easier to setup than an Aga. And the Aga is much harder to setup than a regular Nova.

Is my local shop that overpriced at $200 for everything i got?

Yes - but if they are knowledgeable and are will to explain things and show you how its done, then IMO it was worth the cost. Now that you are a customer you have earned the right to ask them 1000 questions.
 

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COngrats on your first more advanced set up. It is nice when you get a great setup and take that first puff and you kinda say "wow" now I can understand all the talk.

SOme might say you overpaid, but I say with all the help and lessons it was money well spent. All set ups take a little learning curve and the fact that the guys at the shop set you up, asked questions, got to know what you wanted and got a feel for what you were capable of handling was good.

All of my purchases were done online and I had some frustrations on every new step up I took. I went to a local store and got some hands on help. I need some help with my first carto tank and needed some cartos and the girl spent a long time on me showing me how to properly punch it and get it going even though I bought it else where. I felt kinda guilty that she spent almost 40 min with me on a small purchase of a box of cartos that I bought some over priced juice because the help she gave me saved me a lot of wasted cartos and frustrations.

EIther atomizer you decide on might be worth the extra price if you can afford it. Both have a learning curve. If you go the Vivi nova side and since you do have a rebuildable dripper you might be able to get the information and figure it out between the great help here and on the youtube videos.

If you go the Aga-t unless its outrageously costly compared to online, I would go with buying it at the store. Its a bit more fiddly and you might have problems with it. I never really got a hang of genesis atomizers and just gave up. You might do better and love it.

After these basic lessons I think you can then step out and brave it on your own. A hands on genesis lesson or two will be worth the extra dollars.

At least you got some great items that will keep you happy and leave room for growth. So what if you paid a bit more, but at least you got some great help and lessons.

ONe thing I do recommend if you dont already have one is some sort of multimeter to test your builds on in case of a short. That is something even someone that has a lot of experience should have. I have built many a wick and coil, hundreds, but occasionally I still get a short and having something to test it on before is always a good thing.
 

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$200 seems a little steep.

But both of those atomizers are compatible with your Magneto.

Well kinda , but think about it, 200.00 was the PV, the atomizer, charger, 3 batteries ,wick, wire, hand blown drip tip and some customizations on his atomizer, lessons etc. Maybe paid about 50-60 total more than online, but it was worth it. I think.
 

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First of all, welcome to ECF!

Secondly, make sure you have GOOD batteries (AW, mnke, etc), good batts are a MUST if you're using a mechanical.

You also need a decent multi-meter if you're going to be rebuilding coils, so you know your coils resistance, and most importantly, make sure you don't have a short.

The Aga-t is what's known as a genesis atomizer, they do give a good vape but they're hard to set up correctly, these are really for advanced users. I'd recommend holding off on this until you get the hang of rebuilding something a bit simpler.

The vision vivi nova is a Clearomizer with replaceable heads (that can be rebuilt). I think this would be a good starting point to learn about rebuildables. I learned to rebuild on vivi novas myself, and they work quite well when rebuilt with cotton wicks.

My advice is that you should get enough posts so that you can get access to the rebuildables section and do a lot of reading, also check out some YouTube vids on rebuilding a vivi nova (pbusardo has a good one)

Above all else, make sure you're being safe with your builds by having good batteries and a DMM, happy reading and Good luck!
 

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Thank's everyone for answering all of my questions and I really appreciate the warm welcome to the site! I think that I will be going the rebuildable rout, it seems like the most authentic option with a mechanic PV. The simplicity is a cool concept for such a seemingly high tech gadget!

So I will buy one of those meters, are there any other supplies that I should buy at the same time? The shop that I bought my automizer at will recoil a new wick onto it 5 more times for free so I should be able to learn to do it by watching them, and then apply what I learned to coil the wick onto my new atomizer.

Thanks again everyone, Ill be back tomorrow but im really tired its 2 am here in San DIego so iv got to crash! Goodnight

edit: this pic shows the batteries and the white driptip
 
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YOur are very welcome here. There is a LOT of information here and it can be confusing as every person has a different taste in what they enjoy. As you read through it all you will find people with similar tastes and opinions and you will get a "feel" for what person or persons are on the same level as you are.

There is no such thing as the "best" device, only what is good for you. Hanging out at the vape store will teach you many things. You will find that one or two clerks there that will guide you through it all. DOnt be afraid to ask if they can let you try what they like. MOst people will be happy to show you, especially if its not too busy there.

Take extra drip tips and ask if you can pop your tank/atty on their device to get a good feel. Fellow vapers are always happy to show off/ share their devices. Dont get too caught up on super low resistance or complicated or the price of a device. Get to know all you can with what you have. All devices are basically the same, especially mechanicals. Get to know all the parts. Some have more parts or adjustability, but dont let anyone tell you it will taste better or feel better just because it costs more.

YOur basic goal is reached, you are off cigarettes and enjoying your equipment. The rest is just fun and fine tuning your likes and dislikes.

PS. Like others have said, good batteries are a must, you cant go wrong with good AW or Efests or panasonics for safety and IMR/ High drains are great for all types of vaping. A good charger and a digital multimeter. Patience and practice on making your coils and wicks and you are on your way to enjoying rather than frustrations.
 
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I am leaning towards the AGA-T2 which uses a stainless steal wick that is rebuildable, however Im a little worried that might be over my head to setup without the help of the guys at the shop which is why Im comparing it to the Mini Vision Vivi Nova which has replaceable coil heads that I can buy online.

SO here come the questions:

  • Are both of these atomizers compatible with my Magneto?
  • Is one of the two types of coil system generally better then the other?
  • Is there another atomizer that you would recommend for around $30?
  • Is my local shop that overpriced at $200 for everything i got?

The AGA-T2 is what I went with for my first RBA, but you may have to modify it slightly to use it with the Magneto, as the positive center post may not extend down far enough to make contact with the center pin of the Magneto. This can be easily remedied with a washer. I went with an RBA pretty quickly after a month or so of vaping on a Kanger Protank, and I've never been sorry. I think you will like it a lot. You might also want to consider the RSST, which is another very good starter RBA.

If you do go the RBA route be sure you are using the right batteries. Very important. Get the red ones, the AW IMR's, using lesser batteries can lead to bad things happening and severe post-vape cognitive dissonance.

Also, as others have pointed out, be SURE you can check your resistance before putting that atty on your mod. A multimeter is a good thing to have, but you can also use this:


It's a nice little gizmo that works well, though it may be a bit hard to come by, and out of stock most places. I had to get on the waiting list to get mine.
 
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Yesterday I picked up my first mech PV from my local vape store, for $200 I got the Magneto with a small rebuildable atomizer and a rasta glass driptip, they also threw in a battery charging pack with 3 batteries in different sizes. This is my first portable vape so the guys at the shop coiled the wick for me and also drilled out the hole so that I can take bigger rips (more airflow). I have smoked 20 or so different e-cigs in my life but when I tried this one out for the first time it blew my mind! The size of the clouds coming out of this thing are incredibly huge, its almost unsafe to puff while driving because the clouds are so thick you cant see where you are going :vapor:haha.

So overall I love my new piece, but now that Im starting to better understand how it works and have used it a bit more I am getting a better idea about what I really want. My atomizer hits great and is very easy to change flavors, but it doesnt hold enough juice for me to enjoy a "sesh" without having to rewet the wick multiple times.



I could buy a new atomizer with a tank from the shop down the st and they would drill out the hole and even recoil the wick 5 times for me, but I think that their prices reflect all those included services and if I want to take this hobby serious and not go bankrupt in the process I need to figure out how to do this .... on my own! So thats why I am here, I really appreciate you all helping me out!

Anyways I found these two atomizers online within my budget:

AGA-T2
View attachment 249676

Mini Vision Vivi Nova
View attachment 249677

I am leaning towards the AGA-T2 which uses a stainless steal wick that is rebuildable, however Im a little worried that might be over my head to setup without the help of the guys at the shop which is why Im comparing it to the Mini Vision Vivi Nova which has replaceable coil heads that I can buy online.

SO here come the questions:

  • Are both of these atomizers compatible with my Magneto?
  • Is one of the two types of coil system generally better then the other?
  • Is there another atomizer that you would recommend for around $30?
  • Is my local shop that overpriced at $200 for everything i got?

Thank you for reading my first post on e-cigarette-forum.com! Im really excited about my new hobby and learning about it through this community!

First of all, love your setup. Very nice gear. Great questions. Most of them answered as I would have as well. Here's my two cents:

1. You paid twice what I would have paid, but then again, I've been looking at gear since 2009, know where to get everything, and at the best prices. Try VaporJoes for prices. Don't be afraid to order from Fasttech (Hong Kong vendor taking two weeks for delivery, but at wholesale prices, with no minimum).
2. Virtually all 510 connection toppers will work with the Magneto. Very few devices won't (evod and Kanger MT3's won't work)
3. Silica is slightly easier to rebuild than mesh, but they're both easy. View YouTube videos on the devices you are interested in and you'll see that not only do they make it look easy.....IT IS EASY, if you are so inclined. If you prefer to just pop and go, get a Protank II, otherwise, pay attention to the following:
a. Recommend AW IMR Batteries (more expensive, but the most important part of a mechanical. Do not skimp here)
b. Get a multimeter, or a variable wattage device like a Vamo or iTaste 3.0 that can read the resistance (Ohm's). IMPORTANT.
c. Mechanicals require you to build coils to match your battery output. Learn Ohm's law. I like to vape around 7 watts, so I need about a 2 Ohm coil on a mechanical to get about 7 watts. I am for 1.8 Ohms to 2.0 Ohms. Easy with practice. After your first half-dozen coils with Ohm meter, you will have a good starting feel for rebuilding coils. I use 32 gauge Kanthal in a 6/7 wrap for a 2.0 Ohm coil. Adjust as necessary to hit correct target resistance.
d. Lots of places have wick and wire. You don't need much to start, and until you know exactly what you want, get smaller quantities to play with, which will save you from a big bill.
e. You will need magnification, possibly a "third hand", good tweezers, good pliers, and good cutters along with the RBA materials mentioned above
4. Recommend the RSST as a great entry level Genny. The RSST is a clone of the super popular AC9, and easy peasy to start with ($24.96 Authentic Smoktech RSST Rebuildable Atomizer (2.5-3.0mL) at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping). For a dripper, I like the entry level IGO-L ($7.67 IGO-L Rebuildable Stainless Steel Dripping Atomizer - double heating wires / 1.6ohm at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping).
5. Yes, again, you overpaid by a lot. You don't need the local B/M to help you in this regard. I learned how to rebuild by watching YouTube videos....endlessly. Once you understand Ohm's Law and vaping:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc90pdATEM0

And once you have a good battery understanding:

Basic to Advanced Battery Information from Battery University

And once you have the right tools and RBA gear (sample of my "stuff"):

RBA Gear.jpg

And once you have and can use a multimeter and voltage meter (waiting lists and patience required for these items):

Ohm Meter.jpgvotage meter 2.jpg

How hard could it possibly be to wrap wire around a wick (silica or mesh)? It's the knowledge of the above, the preparation, the gear and tools that make this challenging. If you don't have the knowledge, the gear, the tools, the materials, watched several hours of YouTube videos, then RBA's should be avoided. With the above, it's a piece of cake. Even when the first half a dozen coils don't work as expected, the next half a dozen are sure to dial in. Flying a kite is way more difficult.

Seriously love the Magneto. There are about 100 good RDA/RBA pieces of gear that will work for you at the entry level. Before you start dropping $100 + for RBA's, check out Fasttech and their many RBA/RDA's at rock bottom prices:

618 Electronic Cigarettes (Product Type: Atomizer) at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Watch the RBA YouTube's. Some of my favorites are Phil Busardo, Todd's ecig reviews, and grimm green. Many of the manufacturer's have their own videos. You'll see when you check out YouTube. Good luck to you, power up and vape on!
 

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Nothing to add to whats been said... all lots of useful info from some smart folks. I am going to say however... welcome to the asylum, and a great post for your first one. You'll do well here. ;-)

Yeah. I don't know what to add either.

Welcome OP.

You know...it just struck me that we e-cig fans can take even the simplest device (a button, a connector, a battery, and a coil/wick thing) and complicate the hell out of it faster than anyone else. lol.

I guess the devil is always in the details for anything.

Good luck with your new mech.
 
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TheNaturalist

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Thank you everyone for all of the great info! Its very much appreciated!

YOur basic goal is reached, you are off cigarettes and enjoying your equipment. The rest is just fun and fine tuning your likes and dislikes.

This is the funny part, I don't really smoke cigs and I got the juice without the nicotine in it! I am a long time Hookah user and so my new PV is really more of a replacement of that, letting me do smoke tricks and enjoy the flavors without the hassle of heating up coals and what not for my hookah. I also love hobbies and tinkering, so Im thinking that learning to build coils and control the ohms will also be a lot of fun!


PS. Like others have said, good batteries are a must, you cant go wrong with good AW or Efests or panasonics for safety and IMR/ High drains are great for all types of vaping. A good charger and a digital multimeter. Patience and practice on making your coils and wicks and you are on your way to enjoying rather than frustrations.

If you do go the RBA route be sure you are using the right batteries. Very important. Get the red ones, the AW IMR's, using lesser batteries can lead to bad things happening and severe post-vape cognitive dissonance.

a. Recommend AW IMR Batteries (more expensive, but the most important part of a mechanical. Do not skimp here)
b. Get a multimeter, or a variable wattage device like a Vamo or iTaste 3.0 that can read the resistance (Ohm's). IMPORTANT.
c. Mechanicals require you to build coils to match your battery output. Learn Ohm's law. I like to vape around 7 watts, so I need about a 2 Ohm coil on a mechanical to get about 7 watts. I am for 1.8 Ohms to 2.0 Ohms. Easy with practice. After your first half-dozen coils with Ohm meter, you will have a good starting feel for rebuilding coils. I use 32 gauge Kanthal in a 6/7 wrap for a 2.0 Ohm coil. Adjust as necessary to hit correct target resistance.
d. Lots of places have wick and wire. You don't need much to start, and until you know exactly what you want, get smaller quantities to play with, which will save you from a big bill.
e. You will need magnification, possibly a "third hand", good tweezers, good pliers, and good cutters along with the RBA materials mentioned above

Its looking to me like maybe I should upgrade my batteries before my atomizer. Problem is I dont know anything about batteries... Am I correct in my understanding that in a mech PV the current going through my coil is based on the current coming out of the battery? If this is the truth then my two different sized batteries should have different smoking experiences, however I am unable to really notice a difference so im a little confused.

Would someone mind providing a link to where I can buy these better batteries online? Also is anyone able to identify the batteries I am using now from this picture?

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Thanks again everyone! Ill be going back through your posts to follow all the links and conquer the details after I get done with school later tonight
 
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Those look like either Panasonic's or Sanyo's. If you use unprotected batteries, you can add a kick or fuse for additional protection, or get protected batteries. I left a reference to Battery University in my first post. Also, great place to get batts is:

Genuine AW Batteries at RTD Vapor

Good luck.
 

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Those green batteries look like the protected Li Ion batteries by Panasonic http://www.rtdvapor.com/online-store/batteries/panasonic-ncr18650b-3400mah-protected-button-top-detail. You want to use a high quality IMR class battery. The above recommendation for AW IMRs is an excellent one. Those are the batteries that the ECF gurus recommend as first choice for mods in nearly all applications. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-library/129569-rechargeable-batteries.html

I'll add to the other's comments, that you should have some sort of backup juice attachment in addition to any rebuildable device you're using. They can become buggy, and it's always good to have a simple backup, whether a clearomizer like a Vivi Nova, Protank, or iClear 30.

I've made an information resource for new RBA users: Advice & Tips for Vapors Looking to Try Their First RBA

Also, here's a basic guide on mod batteries with additional information resources: Batteries for Mods: IMR or Protected?
 
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First of all, love your setup. Very nice gear. Great questions. Most of them answered as I would have as well. Here's my two cents:

1. You paid twice what I would have paid, but then again, I've been looking at gear since 2009, know where to get everything, and at the best prices. Try VaporJoes for prices. Don't be afraid to order from Fasttech (Hong Kong vendor taking two weeks for delivery, but at wholesale prices, with no minimum).
2. Virtually all 510 connection toppers will work with the Magneto. Very few devices won't (evod and Kanger MT3's won't work)
3. Silica is slightly easier to rebuild than mesh, but they're both easy. View YouTube videos on the devices you are interested in and you'll see that not only do they make it look easy.....IT IS EASY, if you are so inclined. If you prefer to just pop and go, get a Protank II, otherwise, pay attention to the following:
a. Recommend AW IMR Batteries (more expensive, but the most important part of a mechanical. Do not skimp here)
b. Get a multimeter, or a variable wattage device like a Vamo or iTaste 3.0 that can read the resistance (Ohm's). IMPORTANT.
c. Mechanicals require you to build coils to match your battery output. Learn Ohm's law. I like to vape around 7 watts, so I need about a 2 Ohm coil on a mechanical to get about 7 watts. I am for 1.8 Ohms to 2.0 Ohms. Easy with practice. After your first half-dozen coils with Ohm meter, you will have a good starting feel for rebuilding coils. I use 32 gauge Kanthal in a 6/7 wrap for a 2.0 Ohm coil. Adjust as necessary to hit correct target resistance.
d. Lots of places have wick and wire. You don't need much to start, and until you know exactly what you want, get smaller quantities to play with, which will save you from a big bill.
e. You will need magnification, possibly a "third hand", good tweezers, good pliers, and good cutters along with the RBA materials mentioned above
4. Recommend the RSST as a great entry level Genny. The RSST is a clone of the super popular AC9, and easy peasy to start with ($24.96 Authentic Smoktech RSST Rebuildable Atomizer (2.5-3.0mL) at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping). For a dripper, I like the entry level IGO-L ($7.67 IGO-L Rebuildable Stainless Steel Dripping Atomizer - double heating wires / 1.6ohm at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping).
5. Yes, again, you overpaid by a lot. You don't need the local B/M to help you in this regard. I learned how to rebuild by watching YouTube videos....endlessly. Once you understand Ohm's Law and vaping:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc90pdATEM0

And once you have a good battery understanding:

Basic to Advanced Battery Information from Battery University

And once you have the right tools and RBA gear (sample of my "stuff"):

View attachment 249708

And once you have and can use a multimeter and voltage meter (waiting lists and patience required for these items):

View attachment 249710View attachment 249711

How hard could it possibly be to wrap wire around a wick (silica or mesh)? It's the knowledge of the above, the preparation, the gear and tools that make this challenging. If you don't have the knowledge, the gear, the tools, the materials, watched several hours of YouTube videos, then RBA's should be avoided. With the above, it's a piece of cake. Even when the first half a dozen coils don't work as expected, the next half a dozen are sure to dial in. Flying a kite is way more difficult.

Seriously love the Magneto. There are about 100 good RDA/RBA pieces of gear that will work for you at the entry level. Before you start dropping $100 + for RBA's, check out Fasttech and their many RBA/RDA's at rock bottom prices:

618 Electronic Cigarettes (Product Type: Atomizer) at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Watch the RBA YouTube's. Some of my favorites are Phil Busardo, Todd's ecig reviews, and grimm green. Many of the manufacturer's have their own videos. You'll see when you check out YouTube. Good luck to you, power up and vape on!

Yep I agree 100%.I am also new to vaping but went the VV/VW route not the mech mod one.Always check the net for prices first.I have the AGA-T2 had it working in less than an hr first time.Along with a Kanger ProTank,mini, and Evod (they all take the same coils a plus)and the Smoktech SID I'm good to go.
 

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Yesterday I picked up my first mech PV from my local vape store, for $200 I got the Magneto with a small rebuildable atomizer and a rasta glass driptip, they also threw in a battery charging pack with 3 batteries in different sizes. This is my first portable vape so the guys at the shop coiled the wick for me and also drilled out the hole so that I can take bigger rips (more airflow). I have smoked 20 or so different e-cigs in my life but when I tried this one out for the first time it blew my mind! The size of the clouds coming out of this thing are incredibly huge, its almost unsafe to puff while driving because the clouds are so thick you cant see where you are going :vapor:haha.

So overall I love my new piece, but now that Im starting to better understand how it works and have used it a bit more I am getting a better idea about what I really want. My atomizer hits great and is very easy to change flavors, but it doesnt hold enough juice for me to enjoy a "sesh" without having to rewet the wick multiple times.



I could buy a new atomizer with a tank from the shop down the st and they would drill out the hole and even recoil the wick 5 times for me, but I think that their prices reflect all those included services and if I want to take this hobby serious and not go bankrupt in the process I need to figure out how to do this .... on my own! So thats why I am here, I really appreciate you all helping me out!

Anyways I found these two atomizers online within my budget:

AGA-T2
View attachment 249676

Mini Vision Vivi Nova
View attachment 249677

I am leaning towards the AGA-T2 which uses a stainless steal wick that is rebuildable, however Im a little worried that might be over my head to setup without the help of the guys at the shop which is why Im comparing it to the Mini Vision Vivi Nova which has replaceable coil heads that I can buy online.

SO here come the questions:

  • Are both of these atomizers compatible with my Magneto?
  • Is one of the two types of coil system generally better then the other?
  • Is there another atomizer that you would recommend for around $30?
  • Is my local shop that overpriced at $200 for everything i got?

Thank you for reading my first post on e-cigarette-forum.com! Im really excited about my new hobby and learning about it through this community!

1. yes, but the vivi is lame, much better options at the same pricetag with same ease of use
2. subjective, rba's definetly hit better when set up correctly, but arent worth the effort to some people
3. RSST all the way for a tank atty, keep that dripper though
4. that completely depends. typically you see the magneto for around $60. to cover the other $140, there is too many variables, chargers can range from $5-$60, batteries from $5-$15, cant tell what atty it is, but they range from $5-$85, and glass tips usually run $30-$90. too many variables, you may have got an amazing deal, plus amazing service, or ripped off.
 

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Don't know what anyone else here thinks but rebuildables and mech's go hand and hand. Rebuilding an AGA isn't so difficult. You could compare it to others which are easier but it don't mean AGA's are hard. Just be sure you oxidize your mesh thoroughly. Maybe create the coil by wrapping your wire round a suitable sized drill bit. I've only been using an AGA T2 for about a week. I had a few teething problems at first because i hadn't oxidized the mesh properly, kept getting a hot spot on the top leg. If you've got a mech use a rebuldable. An AGA T is a perfect start.:)
 

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4. that completely depends. typically you see the magneto for around $60. to cover the other $140, there is too many variables, chargers can range from $5-$60, batteries from $5-$15, cant tell what atty it is, but they range from $5-$85, and glass tips usually run $30-$90. too many variables, you may have got an amazing deal, plus amazing service, or ripped off.

Im really happy with my purchase so to me it was a amazing deal. Before I had no idea what a "mech mod" was and they got me all set up so it was worth it. However, now that you guys have shown me FastTech I will probably never buy another piece of hardware at that shop! (Ill still be going in to get my coil redone a few times though haha)

I just bought the ATTY from FastTech, it doesn't even ship till the 23rd but for only $16 its hard to complain
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