Well, I hope that on that point we can find agreement. I personally feel that the owner of an establishment has the right to set policy when it comes to vaping (and smoking, for that matter), NOT the government.
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Well, I hope that on that point we can find agreement. I personally feel that the owner of an establishment has the right to set policy when it comes to vaping (and smoking, for that matter), NOT the government.
I typically follow the "rules" set forth by the OP. I only wish others would give the same courtesy. I am allergic to certain perfumes, typically the cheap really flowery types, but the ladies still bath in it before going out for a night. I have noticed that it is typically the older ladies; apparently your sense of smell fades as you age. As I have mentioned in other posts, I have had to leave restaurants before due to the perfume worn by other patrons around me.
I agree with all of your points. Because of where I work (Navy) I can't vape indoors unless I do it very discreetly in the bathroom. I will at times take a small pull from my iTaste 134 with Kanger Aerotank Mega on it when I'm out and about, but I always "ghost" hit it where I don't exhale any vapor. It is one of my biggest pet peeves when I see people blowing clouds in the middle of a public place. Just the other day I was in the grocery store and a woman took a pull from her eGo while standing in the checkout line and blew her vapor right in the clerk's face. I actually left my cart and went to ask her how long she'd been vaping before she left the store. She had just bought it that week. I asked her to use a little more courtesy when vaping, because it is actions like what she'd just done that give vaping a bad public image.
I really don't understand the argument that if vapers aren't allowed to vape everywhere, they will go back to smoking. Does that mean they smoked everywhere?
Who said anything about 'needing' to vape everywhere?
And so you would just quit smoking when the designated smoking areas are un-normal?
I've honestly never heard that argument in the 2 years I've been vaping. If someone said that to me I would have to laugh and just remind them that smoking has been banned in public places for how long?
I agree with the op, I try to use the same rules that applied when I was a smoker. Except, EXCEPT at work, where I can now freely vape in my office. The boss hated my cigs, but hasn't complained the first time about me vaping 
If someone feels the need to vape on line at Walmart, it is a pretty good bet they can't control themselves and 'need' to vape everywhere...
Really didn't matter what I thought of non-smoking areas. They are designated as non-smoking, so I didn't smoke...
I just commented in another thread started by a new ECF member with just a few posts, that almost all of these "this is how you MUST vape or else you are a bad person" threads are mainly being started by someone who has been around for all of 10 minutes telling everyone what they should and should not do.
I have been vaping for over 4 years and have vaped respectfully and with common sense in all of the off-limits areas listed in this thread. The few times I have even gotten feedback has always been positive and asking for more information. I've had several people tell me they I was the first person they saw up close vaping and they were pleased at how unobtrusive it was. In most cases no one even noticed due to being respectful in how I vape in public.
I don't know who the OP thinks he is but to come on ECF and and make his first thread the gospel on how I or anyone else should vape, smacks of the same attitude as those working hard to eliminate vaping everywhere.
I doubt the OP even vapes.
I have been vaping for over 4 years and have vaped respectfully and with common sense in all of the off-limits areas listed in this thread. The few times I have even gotten feedback has always been positive and asking for more information. I've had several people tell me they I was the first person they saw up close vaping and they were pleased at how unobtrusive it was. In most cases no one even noticed due to being respectful in how I vape in public.
I don't know who the OP thinks he is but to come on ECF and and make his first thread the gospel on how I or anyone else should vape, smacks of the same attitude as those working hard to eliminate vaping everywhere.
I doubt the OP even vapes.
I don't think that was the intent of the OP at all. There are plenty of knucklehead vapers out there that think because it is not a cigarette they can just openly do it anywhere and everywhere. Proper education and common sense (which is far less common) are essential to keep vaping from getting the bad image we are all trying to avoid.
As for your other point of that being their first post, I somewhat agree with you that it looks bad when you only have a few posts on your record. But I've been vaping for 2+ years now, have a 4 pistol gun case that I've turned into a mod case, and am in the process of opening a vapor lounge. This is not my first account on this forum, but it still says that I have less than 10 posts. Just because someone's post count isn't legendary doesn't mean that they don't know what they're talking about.
As for your other point of that being their first post, I somewhat agree with you that it looks bad when you only have a few posts on your record. But I've been vaping for 2+ years now, have a 4 pistol gun case that I've turned into a mod case, and am in the process of opening a vapor lounge. This is not my first account on this forum, but it still says that I have less than 10 posts. Just because someone's post count isn't legendary doesn't mean that they don't know what they're talking about.
That right there is why I have a bone to pick with those manufacturers that advertise their products as being "Legal to use ANYWHERE!!".
And that's why I rarely look at post count; I try to get the flavor of a post without being swayed by a post count. But it happens.
Unlike toddlers, most normal adults develop impulse control, as well as the ability to control their addictions.
Those who can't are best off seeking out the help of a good pyschotherapist or behavioral therapist who can help them if they are unable to exercise self-control.
He's a member, just like you, free to post and share an opinion or idea.
His ideas happen to be insightful.
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Unlike some. I do not need a law to tell me where it's appropriate to vape or not to vape. And don't equate it to smoking concerns because it's not equivalent.
If others have difficulty with the requirement to control other's behavior they need counseling or just the serenity prayer.
I don't need the law to tell me how fast I can safely drive, but I live in a society governed by laws and rules...
Apparently some have difficulty following the norms and accepted behaviors in the societies in which they live. They usually don't succeed in life...
Apparently some have difficulty following the norms and accepted behaviors in the societies in which they live. They usually don't succeed in life...
In principle I agree with you about the post count, etc. But it is happening about every week or so. It just does not pass the "smell" test, IMO. The vast majority of us who have spent any time on ECF (even just a couple of months) don't start their first thread by preaching the gospel of how to vape. We are here to share information and learn. I have also noticed that these "vaping gospel" thread starters never stay around or contribute much in any other area. Helping others is a big part of ECF. I don't see that from the "vaping gospel" posters.
And every year ECF has a fair number of trolls who come here just to stir the pot. It's been like that since 2009.
There is no law overall against vaping so what is your issue?
We need a law against speeding because people don't know that exceeding the speed limit on a road makes them dangerous. Nothing about norms or accepted behavior.
Comparing vaping, a non-harmful activity to speeding, which can kill and maim others, is a fools straw-man argument that makes no sense.
My issue is with those who act like children or entitled brats...
But you're twisting his quote. We need laws against speeding, but not to help common courtesy in all but the most rude of cases.
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