My Public Vaping Ethos.

[wv2win]

But you're twisting his quote. We need laws against speeding, but not to help common courtesy in all but the most rude of cases.

Point taken. His consistent "vaping is smoking" position over numerous threads is not logical IMO. You legislate rules for harmful behavior not for perceived and debateable rude behavior. Similar to cell phone usage which private locations can restrict, as is their right.

Based on the number of these thread very suspiciously started on ECF, you would think that there is a cadre of vaping terrorists going around the country blowing vaper in people's faces. That is completely not reality which is easily proven. One more reason why the OP has little credibility IMO. I have little doubt as to who and what he is.

 

[wv2win]

Unlike toddlers, most normal adults develop impulse control, as well as the ability to control their addictions.

Those who can't are best off seeking out the help of a good pyschotherapist or behavioral therapist who can help them if they are unable to exercise self-control.................................

I see....those who don't vape in a manner that meets your criteria for "impulse control" needs psychological counseling.

I've always found that those who arrogantly preach to others about how much control they have and that everyone should do as they do, are the real asshats that we all have to tolerate in society because they are more likely to eventually "snap" and do some real damage.

So whatever you say "God of Vaping".

 

[Shootist]

1) I will vape where I choose. If that happens to be around someones child, not standing right next to me, that is the parents problem and responsibility not mine.

2) Right it certainly does. Any of the juices I have vaped in front of others they say "That smells like Cotton Candy". I have yet vaped or hear from anyone that my exhaled vapor smell bad and certainly not like cigarettes stink.

2.2) I vape in places I eat. I am not obnoxious about it and don't blow clouds.

3) Yes!!! I take a Cig A Like with me not a Mech Mod or regulated device with clearo or dripper. Try it you may like it.

4) Agree if you have easy access to a manager. If not vape but don't be obnoxious about it.

5) That goes without saying.

Doing all the thing you suggest only adds to the opinion, idea, that Vaping is BAD for both the Vaper and the people around them. We relegate ourselves back the Closet.
Sorry I am out of the closet and out of the Smoking area and I won't be going back.

IT ISN'T SMOKE It Isn't Tobacco, it is not burning.

 

[Bobbilly]

I see....those who don't vape in a manner that meets your criteria for "impulse control" needs psychological counseling.

I've always found that those who arrogantly preach to others about how much control they have and that everyone should do as they do, are the real asshats that we all have to tolerate in society because they are more likely to eventually "snap" and do some real damage.

So whatever you say "God of Vaping".

It's all about the impulse control of having to tell others how to do something.

 

[Shootist]

While I agree with your sentiment, I am guilty of breaking some of your rules. While breaking the rules, technically, I always excercise discretion.

Last night, my wife and I attended a Josh Blue comedy show. Front row, center stage. Literally 5 feet from the comedian. I vaped. I did so discretely. I wasn't prepared to be removed from the venue for disturbing other patrons' experience. Nobody said a thing, afterward. I wasn't sneaky about it, but I held my vapor and exhaled through my nostrils, down the front of my shirt just to decrease the exhibit of the cloud from my Kicked Kayfun. My only fear in vaping while he performed was if a punchline came as I was drawing on my gear and I mistakenly coughed out a cloud!

Why did you bring a Kicked, Mech Mod, and Kayfun? To look cool? Really. You were Hoping someone said something.

I must say your actions are why people like the OP post these types of posts, Rules for vaping in public.

 

[paula]

I tend to vape outdoors or away from non-smokers & non-vapers. I once had a security guy follow me out of an open air maill because I had an unlit cig in my hand. In AZ, they can really be ugly about it, and I don't want to be bothered.

 

[Bobbilly]

Why did you bring a Kicked, Mech Mod, and Kayfun? To look cool? Really. You were Hoping someone said something.

I must say your actions are why people like the OP post these types of posts, Rules for vaping in public.

Maybe he likes his kayfun?

I think people post their rules because they lack impulse control of telling people what bothers them.

 

[raykraft]

I can definitely agree with vaping around kids. Many I've been around find it cool and don't realize that its like smoking... they thinks its a toy.

Also, regarding the smell of your vapor -- I think this is a double sided coin. Yes, some may find certain aromas offensive. However, generally speaking I've received positive feedback and people like the smell. Ironically, these are the non-smokers... many of my smoking friends claim that they don't like the smell

 

[Shootist]

I just commented in another thread started by a new ECF member with just a few posts, that almost all of these "this is how you MUST vape or else you are a bad person" threads are mainly being started by someone who has been around for all of 10 minutes telling everyone what they should and should not do.

I have been vaping for over 4 years and have vaped respectfully and with common sense in all of the off-limits areas listed in this thread. The few times I have even gotten feedback has always been positive and asking for more information. I've had several people tell me they I was the first person they saw up close vaping and they were pleased at how unobtrusive it was. In most cases no one even noticed due to being respectful in how I vape in public.

I don't know who the OP thinks he is but to come on ECF and and make his first thread the gospel on how I or anyone else should vape, smacks of the same attitude as those working hard to eliminate vaping everywhere.

I doubt the OP even vapes.

Thumbs Up, Thumbs Up, Thumbs Up and Up and Up.

 

[Racehorse]

I see....those who don't vape in a manner that meets your criteria for "impulse control" needs psychological counseling.

I've always found that those who arrogantly preach to others about how much control they have and that everyone should do as they do, are the real asshats that we all have to tolerate in society because they are more likely to eventually "snap" and do some real damage.

So whatever you say "God of Vaping".

You seem to have a real problem with people giving an opinion here

First, you had a problem with the OP.

Now me.

Yes, impulse control is a natural thing with most adults. Adults who don't have it are usually seeking help, as they are desperate to overcome their addictions and/or lack of ability to self-regulate/practice self control.

Prisons are filled with ones who can't meet that criteria, as well, in more extreme cases.

 

[Shootist]

I don't need the law to tell me how fast I can safely drive, but I live in a society governed by laws and rules...
Apparently some have difficulty following the norms and accepted behaviors in the societies in which they live. They usually don't succeed in life...

I rarely follow the speed limit, I always go over the speed limit. I rarely make a complete stops at stop signs, as long as no one else is at or near the intersection (and I always look for the law).

I rarely follow other rules either which I feel most people are like me. Rules where made to control others while the rule makers break all of them.

 

[ChurchMouse]

I vape wherever smoking is allowed.

I also vape, after obtaining permission, in bars, stores, friends and family's homes, etc.

I have vaped in outdoor areas where children were around, but not right next to me. No problem.

I vape in my home, car, etc. With or without my own children present.

I personally feel uncomfortable vaping in a restaurant (unless it has a bar area) or where food is being served and don't do it. I also avoid vaping in small, enclosed spaces or anywhere I know it's not welcome.

If for some reason it can't wait, I can always find a nice private bathroom stall for a stealth vape. I can't remember the last time that happened.

I carry an ego out and about, usually with an evod. Not a bad vape, no huge clouds, it works.

I understand vapor isn't solid or harmful, but it can still be seen as an invasion of personal space. Just be aware and have a little respect without giving up your rights. Is it really that hard to find the balance?

 

[Shootist]

Maybe he likes his kayfun?

I think people post their rules because they lack impulse control of telling people what bothers them.

Could be. I like my Kayfun's also, vaping on 1 right now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Ok I'm back.

Now I have a Halo G6 in my mouth so I can continue typing.

 

[Racehorse]

I've always found that those who arrogantly preach to others about how much control they have and that everyone should do as they do, are the real asshats that we all have to tolerate in society because they are more likely to eventually "snap" and do some real damage.

First of all, nowhere in my post did I say anything about how much control "I" had. You don't read too well.


If you, or anyone else here believes that self-control and/or self discipline is a bad thing, and that people who practice that are asshats, then I don't know what to tell you.



The topic was ethos of vaping, and my contribution is that, like in another topic where the person was vaping at the Walmart cashier counter...... people who can't wait to vape, eat, smoke, drink, whatever, probably do need to seek some help.

When we have vapers who say they will vape whenever, and wherever, they choose, it's easy to see why so many municipalities, parks, etc are making laws against it.....they're heading off what they see as "problem people" and those problem people have indeed, ruined it for the rest of us. (like the kid who was vaping at the Walmart checkout counter).

The rest of us CAN practice self control and DO understand situational awareness and are not the problem.

 

[LDS714]

This goes back to the entitlement mentality, where one should be able to do anything and everything everywhere...

You're 180 degrees out of phase. It's the ones who don't want anyone to do things they don't like or don't want to see who are the ones with the entitlement mentality.

How dare someone even post something even remotely anti-vaping on a vaping board! I find that not only in poor taste, but it makes me uncomfortable and offends me deeply as well. Why should it be allowed?

 

[Racehorse]

I rarely follow the speed limit, I always go over the speed limit. I rarely make a complete stops at stop signs, as long as no one else is at or near the intersection (and I always look for the law).

I rarely follow other rules either which I feel most people are like me. Rules where made to control others while the rule makers break all of them.

Powerless people often feel that way.

Most other people follow rules because it is the glue that keeps the society together and working smoothly. They are secure within their person not to take it personally and don't consider following rules or the law as a "personal affront".

I rarely follow other rules either which I feel most people are like me

So no, most people are not like you. Unless they have the same ...... complex about rules and laws as you do.

 

[DeliciousClouds]

Doing all the thing you suggest only adds to the opinion, idea, that Vaping is BAD for both the Vaper and the people around them. We relegate ourselves back the Closet.

It's not particularly healthy either. You're still inhaling something that you're lungs aren't meant to inhale. It's just a whole lot less bad than smoking, considering the evidence so far. Whether it's actually harmful to inhale second-hand vape I don't know. But if everybody vaped indoors in a non-vaping establishment it sure would be obnoxious. Fog everywhere and a culmination of smells.

 

[LDS714]

I can definitely agree with vaping around kids. Many I've been around find it cool and don't realize that its like smoking... they thinks its a toy.

Also, regarding the smell of your vapor -- I think this is a double sided coin. Yes, some may find certain aromas offensive. However, generally speaking I've received positive feedback and people like the smell. Ironically, these are the non-smokers... many of my smoking friends claim that they don't like the smell

Like smoking? Please explain.

 

[MMork]

I really don't understand the argument that if vapers aren't allowed to vape everywhere, they will go back to smoking. Does that mean they smoked everywhere?

One of the main selling points for switching to vaping is to not be forced to go outside to designated smoking areas anymore. It dissuades prospective vapers from making the change and gaining the benefits of being smoke-free.
If it's not banned, I'm vaping. Of course I'm not blowing my vapor in everyone's face and being a .... (read: jerk) about it, I still practice discretion, but I also don't feel I should be required to go outside with the smokers if I'm no longer a smoker.

 

[DeliciousClouds]

One of the main selling points for switching to vaping is to not be forced to go outside to designated smoking areas anymore.

It's also one of the misunderstandings. Even some cig-a-likes advertise with this "smoke anywhere, anytime!" but that's simply not going to happen unless you're -as you say- a jerk about it.