My Public Vaping Ethos.
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You seem to have a real problem with people giving an opinion here
First, you had a problem with the OP.
Now me.
Yes, impulse control is a natural thing with most adults. Adults who don't have it are usually seeking help, as they are desperate to overcome their addictions and/or lack of ability to self-regulate/practice self control.
Prisons are filled with ones who can't meet that criteria, as well, in more extreme cases.
11000 posts of calling people ANTS...That's NUTZ...
I think a lot of the look-at-me vapers seem to have something to prove. Perhaps they are trying to feel superior because they aren't smoking. If they really can't control their vape, perhaps vaping is more addictive to some than smoking...
Please post links to any articles about how bad E-Liquid is for the people inhaling it as vapor. I would like to read them and repost them other threads on this site.
Thanks.
Most current studies have concluded that it's less harmless than smoking, not explicitly harmless. Long term studies are needed for that, and only time will tell. Like on the subject on whether it can attribute to lung cancer or not. I'm enjoying my vape though, don't get riled up about it.
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Yes the NUTZ are proliferating as fast as the ANTZ. Most of us find them equally repulsive.
As for the addictive part, according to many posts on the forum, nicotine is not addictive, but I've run into quite a few people lately who are quite nervous about flying cuz they can't vape on the plane, or dread long meetings at work because they can't get away for a vape break, or staying in hotels or eating in restaurants where they can't vape. Maybe it is a behavioral addiction/dependency then?
For that % of the population, vaping may have improved their physical health, but it seems like it is taking the same toll on them stress-wise as smoking did, in that they are not able to experience personal freedom from their habit and it stresses them greatly to be in situations where they can't vape.
I just took a short holiday with a friend like this. We were late for *everything* because she kept having to get her vape together, and we were very limited to where we could go, and how long we could spend there, because of her addiction/dependency or whatever you want to call it. It was really a PITA.
One day we were at a spa/mineral baths, a place where people usually spend several hours or even the whole day in the pools or inside the spa, and she had to keep getting 1/2 dressed to go outside, soaking wet, to vape.
I think if I were like that I would just wear a patch and get on with my life.
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Shouldn't have to be, vapor and smoke are two different animals. The only thing they might have in common is the inclusion of nicotine. I say might because some people vape 0mg liquids, in which case their vapor has nothing in common with cigarette smoke aside from the appearance.
If you want to vape with smokers, by all means be my guest (or their guest). I'm not going to stop you.
Not riled up at all. Just looking for the information you allude to.
No long term studies will ever prove anything as 99.9999999% of the people that vape also smoked for a long time. So the results of any long term study on vaping will be skewed because of the long term inhalation of tobacco smoke.
I vape openly just about everywhere, in Prague. The airport waiting for my luggage, the hotel limo- with permission, taxis- with permission, everywhere in the hotel, restaurants, pubs, walking down the street, at the castle complex... I don't vape in shops, museums, theaters, public transportation, in close proximity to others. Why? Not because it isn't allowed or accepted- there are no vaping laws there, and vaping is popular and widely accepted, but because of civility... I don't need laws to keep me from vaping in inappropriate places. Sadly, some do...
You completely missed my point. Unless for some reason you include a part of my post with a post you were disputing.
Doing the things the OP suggests puts Vapers in the same group as Smokers, we are not.
No I don't want to vape where the smokers have to go to smoke a cigarette and I won't.
Yes the NUTZ are proliferating as fast as the ANTZ. Most of us find them equally repulsive.
As for the addictive part, according to many posts on the forum, nicotine is not addictive, but I've run into quite a few people lately who are quite nervous about flying cuz they can't vape on the plane, or dread long meetings at work because they can't get away for a vape break, or staying in hotels or eating in restaurants where they can't vape. Maybe it is a behavioral addiction/dependency then?
For that % of the population, vaping may have improved their physical health, but it seems like it is taking the same toll on them stress-wise as smoking did, in that they are not able to experience personal freedom from their habit and it stresses them greatly to be in situations where they can't vape.
I just took a short holiday with a friend like this. We were late for *everything* because she kept having to get her vape together, and we were very limited to where we could go, and how long we could spend there, because of her addiction/dependency or whatever you want to call it. It was really a PITA.
One day we were at a spa/mineral baths, a place where people usually spend several hours or even the whole day in the pools or inside the spa, and she had to keep getting 1/2 dressed to go outside, soaking wet, to vape.
I think if I were like that I would just wear a patch and get on with my life.
And as there is no SHS. She shouldn't have to do that.
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I tend to follow the same rules. I even vape on my breaks at work in the same place I smoked. I don't really care for being around smokers anymore though... We used to be allowed to vape in the back at work, but a few people abused it and thought their breaks were a perfect time to practice cloud chasing. I happened to walk back there one day, into their haze, and screamed about something being on fire. Oops.
Anyway yes, I think we should try to be respectful of other people in most things we do, and since the vaping community is in some kind of spot light we need to be more careful about not pissing people off.
Anyway yes, I think we should try to be respectful of other people in most things we do, and since the vaping community is in some kind of spot light we need to be more careful about not pissing people off.
Unless you smoke some magic unflavored juice that produces no vapor, it's still going to be obnoxious in some situations. Don't you understand that?
That's not an argument. Rude people get sometimes reprimanded for such behavior, like getting kicked out of a restaurant because you're too loud and it's bothering the other customers. Why shouldn't a vapor who blows massive clouds in a fine establishment and believes it's his right to do so not be treated the same?
They should. That's the point, we already have ways to deal with rudeness. We don't need laws forcing it on the basis of smoking rules.
Alright then. It wasn't my intention to leave the impression that laws should be instigated against it. Which also wasn't the purpose of the OP. Just some common courtesy.
That is your opinion.
I don't understand why people are so against personal vaporizers and the people that use them. And it seems some on this forum are like that.
I am 62 years old. I am of an age that I really don't care what other people think and their supposed sensibilities. I'll do what I like when I like to do it. If someone doesn't like that they can go screw themselves.
In some ways it Good to be Older. In others not so good.
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