Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux
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Why am I not surprised to see you here Fran. You do get around Lady!
Yes, and many of them. I use a dripper until gunked, rinse and set aside, and grab a new one. When they're all gunked I dry burn and rewick them all at the same time. How often varies on what I'm vaping and how much drippers I have set up. Been about once a week lately.
Speaking of the heavy hand of the law, Dusty. The last time you lowered it I saw Sta-Puft tatooed on it. What's up with that? 
I was going to suggest it earlier, but then didn't want to come across as the heavy hand of the law, like I usually do..
Edit: My first 4 ml of Petner's Pipe must have evaporated or something considering that I'm at work. I just re-upped the KFL with more. Seems to be holding it's own so far.
Speaking of the heavy hand of the law, Dusty. The last time you lowered it I saw Sta-Puft tatooed on it. What's up with that?
I knew that tattoo would catch up with me someday..
Put it down to one of those drunken bets that I lost.. 
Speaking of drunken bets that I lost, I tried the last bottle of RBFS that Brian sent me.. Capt. Honey Pepper. What an oddball little juice this is. Pepper, yes! Non-NET, definitely yes! Other than that.. it's like somebody emptied out a bunch of different juices into a beaker, gave it a good stir, and then packaged it.
Floral, sweet, slightly funky..it's got a lot going on but, it's definitely not one that I can vape 30ml of, I don't think.Now, the Poet & Scholar..that one I'm going to spend the rest of the evening with. Floral cigar notes, slightly sweet with a nice throat and mouth feel. Medium bodied at most, it still carries itself very well against the rest of the Pipe tobacco lineup.
Nice to see a fellow NETer digging the RiverBottom line as much as me! Everything going on with them is just right in line with my NET preferences. Love the original line-up, giddy that the new ones are just as special.I knew that tattoo would catch up with me someday..
Speaking of drunken bets that I lost, I tried the last bottle of RBFS that Brian sent me.. Capt. Honey Pepper. What an oddball little juice this is. Pepper, yes! Non-NET, definitely yes! Other than that.. it's like somebody emptied out a bunch of different juices into a beaker, gave it a good stir, and then packaged it.
Now, the Poet & Scholar..that one I'm going to spend the rest of the evening with. Floral cigar notes, slightly sweet with a nice throat and mouth feel. Medium bodied at most, it still carries itself very well against the rest of the Pipe tobacco lineup.
Yeah, a lot of good stuff here. I think F&B and Capt. Honey Pepper were the only two I didn't care for out of the 9 juices I've tried so far.
Don't know if I'll order during the sale tomorrow because I still have a boat load of juice to get through but I definitely see myself ordering a few of these in the future..
On to testing the recently acquired MVJ NETs next.
Off topic post..
I was excited that my Tobeco Night mech clone already came today. I wanted to tear into the package after work, but learned my lesson with the last blind mech buy. Instead I made a cup of chai tea, lit some incense, vaped some NET, and chillaxed a bit to let the stress of the workday fade. I didn't want to spas out again if it was a dud and throw it in the garbage as I spew obscenities.
After properly chill, I open my present. Nothing to fear, the Night is solid! Lovely little device. Reverse locking ring, well machined, smooth magnetic switch, floating pin. Beautiful copper mech with a carbon fiber body that I really dig. The throw was more than I like, so sanded down the delrin to shorten it. Happy vaper.
I was excited that my Tobeco Night mech clone already came today. I wanted to tear into the package after work, but learned my lesson with the last blind mech buy. Instead I made a cup of chai tea, lit some incense, vaped some NET, and chillaxed a bit to let the stress of the workday fade. I didn't want to spas out again if it was a dud and throw it in the garbage as I spew obscenities.
After properly chill, I open my present. Nothing to fear, the Night is solid! Lovely little device. Reverse locking ring, well machined, smooth magnetic switch, floating pin. Beautiful copper mech with a carbon fiber body that I really dig. The throw was more than I like, so sanded down the delrin to shorten it. Happy vaper.
Capn. HP is the only one I haven't had. F&B was my least favorite, not a reorder, though still enjoyed the whole 30ml. Even the Fog Sauce I liked least is still a winner in my book, which I find impressive.Yeah, a lot of good stuff here. I think F&B and Capt. Honey Pepper were the only two I didn't care for out of the 9 juices I've tried so far.
Don't know if I'll order during the sale tomorrow because I still have a boat load of juice to get through but I definitely see myself ordering a few of these in the future..
On to testing the recently acquired MVJ NETs next.
I have MVJ's La Gloria Cubana loaded up in my Mephisto since last night. Kind of surprised me, more tobacco this time. I'm sure the 6 month steep is a big reason, though other factors may be at play such as this particular dripper and set-up, and my temperament and expectations. I think I've unlocked some appreciation for these subtle cigar NETs, we'll see if it sticks.
Agreed... I prolly use the most completely different set-up here. But, what works for my juice, in my KF, at my watts, on my battery may be completely different than what works for you. Also, this setup only seems to work in my KF. In my drippers, its a dual microcoil (touching) and even more cotton
As I am sure coils, wicks, RDAs and cartos have been too...
I'm not seeing your point. I agree that the information should be shared and lightly talked about here. I personally would not like to see extended debates and/or prolonged analysis on what should be done about it in the industry on this thread when there are very specific threads already running elsewhere on the forum.
Quoting Bill from yesterday: "Particularly around the safety/health issue, I think we can, should, and will keep discussion of general eliquid safety and vendor responsibilities to a reasonable minimum. A bunch of exchanges every so often seems fine to me, and I'm confident that most participants will be sensitive to self-monitoring how much is enough."
Quoting Papa B: "Some topics are much less likely to result in prolonged heated debate."
There are some issues that once they get going, seem to take over as the main focus of the thread. This being the NET thread, I'd rather not see it go down that road. For me, NETs, and how best to experience those NETs remain the primary expectancy of this thread. Those are my thoughts though and if the thread changes focus and wants to evolve into a discussion on the health and safety of juices/vendors/organizations, then so be it.
I'm filtering my Room 101 San Andres and fighting the temptation to see if 3 micron filtered extract will vape well in a mini protank. lol
Everyone has their reasons as to why they follow this particular thread. I came to this thread a couple of months ago to learn more about NET liquids. I agree fully that liquid safety is extremely important. However there are several threads in the general eliquid discussion that addresses this issue and to me this is where general discussions below. If it is directly related to NETs and especially a particular NET vendor my personal feeling is that it is appropriate to be advised in this particular thread without getting into long general discussions. Since I originally came to this thread to learn more about NET juices, I regard everyone’s input as important to me in deciding what vendor and which of their NETs are good choices even though in the end I make my own decisions good or bad. Although it was not the original intent of this thread I do like to read about which hardware works well with NETs as well as those that do not. I am not a DIYer so I usually scan these.. This is my personal opinions and some may agree and others may not — and that is OK.
I came to these threads for the same reason as you. Some days i see more posts on RDA's than NET's, and not in relation to NET's either but talk about RDA's in general, and ( sadly ? ) there are way way more threads about them, than there are about vendor safety/transparency issues on ECF i feel.
I realize that there's a greater chance going off topic on a 900 page thread than a 3 page thread however, and i don't find it too difficult to overlook the RDA posts and move on to the next. I also realize that a lot of you enjoy talking about RDA's.
There are those who anticipate the transparency issue will get heated/controversial however and differentiate based on that. Fair enough, i don't see the controversy but everyone views a topic differently.
In the mean-time i have been enjoying Dusty's reviews of the various RBFS juices over the past week, and will be a ordering a couple today !
Here's my simple breakdown of the juices I've tested from RBFS, all in one place: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1u8uhhwKwvBQUUVuUTlhyCDQazuFMN7Y5nDiJDfLijU8/edit?usp=sharing
Agreed... I prolly use the most completely different set-up here. But, what works for my juice, in my KF, at my watts, on my battery may be completely different than what works for you. Also, this setup only seems to work in my KF. In my drippers, its a dual microcoil (touching) and even more cotton
"Touching cotton?"
OK, I changed my mind, maybe I do prefer we stay on topic
Dusty, have you tried Net.com Bombay ? How does Porch Rocker compare ? I do enjoy Latakia blends, but when the Latakia completely dominates, i can only vape them for couple of hours. Bombay, i can vape for longer.
I guess I will dip my toe in this "off topic" discussion just for a bit of perspective. If it was covered in the 40 pages I miseed the last few days please excuse me.
Not venturing an opinion one way or the other, but just something to consider that dawned on me this morning...
I think a big reason why topics not specifically related to NET's leak into this forum all the time is because of two related issues: 1) this is the main (and perhaps sole) thread that many of us participate in at ECF, our online vaping "home" or "family" if you will and; 2) many of us have grown to be close acquaintances or even friends over the years. I am sure a subsidiary reason, like it is for me, is just sheer laziness and lack of time to search and wade into a few of hundreds of threads round these here parts. Plus, there are people in this thread who are more trustworthy in many hardware aspects than anyone else around.
Just something to consider. There is a general comfort level here amongst the core group that has grow close over the years.
That said, I will add this...despite the recent friction that has come with it, and in light of the thread shift to a lot of DIY discussion, I genuinely appreciate the group of newer NET converts who frequent this thread. The more the merrier as far as I am concerned. It creates some friction now and again but in the long run it has the potential to make us all better vapers, if not people. With that in mind, if you are genuinely interested in being a conscientous member of the community I can tell you what really worked for me. I looked up the profiles, friends list, recent posts, and subscribed forums of the really active people here to get a sense of who they were, what they knew, etc and that definitely helped me to respect those worthy of it, to more accurately assess the opinions of many, and to reach out and form relationships with people.
Peace
Uncle BJ
Not venturing an opinion one way or the other, but just something to consider that dawned on me this morning...
I think a big reason why topics not specifically related to NET's leak into this forum all the time is because of two related issues: 1) this is the main (and perhaps sole) thread that many of us participate in at ECF, our online vaping "home" or "family" if you will and; 2) many of us have grown to be close acquaintances or even friends over the years. I am sure a subsidiary reason, like it is for me, is just sheer laziness and lack of time to search and wade into a few of hundreds of threads round these here parts. Plus, there are people in this thread who are more trustworthy in many hardware aspects than anyone else around.
Just something to consider. There is a general comfort level here amongst the core group that has grow close over the years.
That said, I will add this...despite the recent friction that has come with it, and in light of the thread shift to a lot of DIY discussion, I genuinely appreciate the group of newer NET converts who frequent this thread. The more the merrier as far as I am concerned. It creates some friction now and again but in the long run it has the potential to make us all better vapers, if not people. With that in mind, if you are genuinely interested in being a conscientous member of the community I can tell you what really worked for me. I looked up the profiles, friends list, recent posts, and subscribed forums of the really active people here to get a sense of who they were, what they knew, etc and that definitely helped me to respect those worthy of it, to more accurately assess the opinions of many, and to reach out and form relationships with people.
Peace
Uncle BJ
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