The induction heating is interesting, but I don't really see the advantage either doing it the way they're showing. Another video showed them demonstrating heating up wire mesh in a tube vaporizing VG, using a larger induction coil. I thought they were going for wireless/coiless vaping until I saw this video. I'm pretty much just kind of confused about how the concept is going to play out. Wickless and wireless vaping would be huge, but it doesn't look like they're going for that.
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The induction heating is interesting, but I don't really see the advantage either doing it the way they're showing. Another video showed them demonstrating heating up wire mesh in a tube vaporizing VG, using a larger induction coil. I thought they were going for wireless/coiless vaping until I saw this video. I'm pretty much just kind of confused about how the concept is going to play out. Wickless and wireless vaping would be huge, but it doesn't look like they're going for that.
I saw that vid too. That's what made me postulate about what would happen if they wrapped the wick around the outside of the tube (or maybe a flask shape). Could they get the tube hot enough that it would vaporize juice that was coating the inside of the tube? Then they got something. If they could miniturize it.
Jerms, Did you see the part of the article about PH, nic and harshness?
Yeah, it had me wonder if the PH level effects the nicotine absorption and throat hit of juice the same as when smoking tobacco.
I'm missing something. I understand induction, but shouldn't there be a better way to apply it? In general, I'm up for anything that makes vaping nerdier.
Same here. Don't see why not. Another article I read inferred that chew,snuf and snus used acidic tobaccos so that nic wouldn't be readily absorbed.
Yeppers.
If it does have an effect, I haven't personally noticed it. I've never vaped an acidic juice and felt I was getting less nicotine or throat hit. I don't know chemistry well though, maybe an acidic flavor doesn't make the juice actually more acidic. Would be interesting to know if different juices have different PH levels, and if that can be adjusted in a way that effects nicotine delivery.
I don't think you are missing anything. Seems like a long way to go to end up basically in the same place. But high nerd factor.
I just finished My first set of five extractions and without any steep time on the five I tried yet, I find myself reaching for Court of St. James over the others at this point. On P&C it's described as a "zesty blend bursting with flavor". That is a perfect description for this blend. I can't wait to see how this one develops in the next few weeks.
Oh and by the way, I used the press method with a 5 micron poly felt sheet method you have been using and I can get at least two full KFL tanks with my mech before I notice any performance downgrade due to gunking.
That is sweet considering the low start-up cost involved.
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I'm no chemist either but one article stated that the acid solutions create salts with the nic that slows absorbing nic where alkaline solutions keep the nic in free base form.
Way over my head.
All I was looking for was if any of the DIY tobaccos or fluids had a PH that would limit the materials I used to process them.
This in turn has me wondering if I should be looking at the pH of these juices for a hint as to my preferences. Perhaps relative acidity (or alkalinity, for that matter) is what makes one juice more aggressive than another.
I used the press method with a 5 micron poly felt sheet method you have been using and I can get at least two full KFL tanks with my mech before I notice any performance downgrade due to gunking.
That's very cool. I feel pleased and humbled to have been the first person to put two-and-two together on that one.
It emerged out of my consternation at the low quality of the hand-pump vacuum filtering kits available plus the high cost of low-micron lab filter paper. I thought, "Damn, there has to be a way to come up with something that works without having to spend $150." I already had (and was using) the 12 oz. French Press for first-pass filtering through the wire mesh, so all it took was my googling enough to stumble on the McMaster-Carr 5-micron polyester felt pads. Once I found them, I was home free. Still, I had my doubts. I feared that the liquid would just bypass the filter around the sides of the carafe, but that was solved by simply cutting the felt disc circle 1/4" larger than the inner diameter of the carafe, allowing an extra eighth inch of pad to seal against the sides of the glass. Presto! When the "dual-stage single-pass French Press method" turned out be easy, quick, and clean, those were unexpected bonuses.
I tried using doubled poly felt pads on my most recent 50/50 PG/VG extractions, but it made plunging so stiff (requiring so much pressure) that I worried a little about overstressing the borosilicate glass carafe and cracking it. The carafe survived intact, but I think I'll just go back to a single pad, where only minimal force is required to depress the plunger through the macerated solvent liquid. No point in complicating something that works so well.
For anyone else considering adopting this method, here's a link to the French Press I ordered as a backup from eBay. $10.49 with free shipping from Vermont. Works like a charm, and the ball on top of the plunger unscrews to remove the top cap, allowing the business end of the plunger to reach all the way to the bottom of the carafe to press smaller amount of macerated tobacco:
Evelots 12 oz. French Press Coffee Maker (for extract filtering)
That's the French Press I am using and it works very well. Found it by a link you posted earlier Bill. Shipped right away too.
"Amount of tobacco to use?". I understand the truth - wing it! Works for me!
"Amount of tobacco to use?". I understand the truth - wing it! Works for me!
I've tried both methods and dozens of variation with the wick on my KFL's. I filter the heck out of it 2or 3 times 5 micron and I think its safe to say that the majority of the time the wick gets clogged and starts burning in a micro coil after and hour or two. I am going to try the gapped coild method next.
I'm reporting this to newbies following the thread that this is not as easy as it looks. I'm having excellent results with a dripper (monkey style.)
Thank you Bill for the directions to find instructions on extracting with pro tips. I'm sure several of us can use them. I will be starting some macerations as soon as I get some time. This weekend I'll be running a BBQ judging contest at Gateway Motor Raceway Park in Illinois and it is supposed to be 95 degrees with 109 degree heat index. Add 20 degrees out on the track, but I degrees. The suggestions given along with your encouragement is what gives us Newbie's courage!
MVJ's Drew Estate Harvest on Hudson
Initial impression, this is pretty good. The virginia and burley seem to switch around in leading. The casing is obvious, but not over powering. It is mild and refreshing. It definitely doesn't beat your buds and seems to be holding up pretty well 4.5 hours into my shift.
Initial impression, this is pretty good. The virginia and burley seem to switch around in leading. The casing is obvious, but not over powering. It is mild and refreshing. It definitely doesn't beat your buds and seems to be holding up pretty well 4.5 hours into my shift.
"3-Crown is simply a stunner for a cigar extraction lover like myself. Even better than I remember it 8-9 months ago when I purchased it as a young juice. No doubt, it probably steeped to perfection months ago but I have not put it in my rotation since the early days when I was trying to figure it out"
I have been hot and heavy with it for 2 weeks, after a 4 month layoff. I totally agree. It is now my favorite retail cigar, period.
I have been hot and heavy with it for 2 weeks, after a 4 month layoff. I totally agree. It is now my favorite retail cigar, period.
Coming soon from House of Liquid:
Possibly the most anticipated Liquid of the year and one of our finest liquid tobaccos is now available.
Made with our best authentic Cuban tobacco blend and a touch of exquisite organic coffee and chocolate -- Puros Dark is an all night and day tobacco that is not aggressive to coils and atomisers.
It took us nearly three months, over 200 samples, and a number of steeps to create the perfect balance. The result is an outstanding dry tobacco with hints of chocolate and coffee, multi-layers of aromas and a thick vapour that lingers in the mouth and air as near experience to a fine cigar.
The Finest eLiquid Brands Worldwide
Possibly the most anticipated Liquid of the year and one of our finest liquid tobaccos is now available.
Made with our best authentic Cuban tobacco blend and a touch of exquisite organic coffee and chocolate -- Puros Dark is an all night and day tobacco that is not aggressive to coils and atomisers.
It took us nearly three months, over 200 samples, and a number of steeps to create the perfect balance. The result is an outstanding dry tobacco with hints of chocolate and coffee, multi-layers of aromas and a thick vapour that lingers in the mouth and air as near experience to a fine cigar.
The Finest eLiquid Brands Worldwide
Cracked open Bullseye Flake w/ Bourbon from Dustmight. I'm don't remember what this is, I'm sure Dust told me in a PM but if he did it's been deleted, so update me on this NET please Dust.
I would have dipped in sooner, but it said bourbon on it lol. Luckily, I don't taste whiskey. Actually I kind of do, if I think about it hard enough, but anything can taste like anything if I search for it. Otherwise, no, wouldn't have picked out any boozy notes on my own, a good thing for me. Whether the tobacco is cased in bourbon or it's an added flavor by Dust, all it's doing at the most is shaping the flavor in the backround.
Mainly what I taste is Virginia. Grassy, lovely Virginia. If there's any other tobaccos involved I'm not picking them up. There's a creamy note too, plays sort of like a vanilla tobacco. It's quite tasty and enjoyable.
...... Ok I just googled Bullseye Flake and what comes up is a Peter Stokkebye VA/Per blend. That doesn't seem right, I don't taste any Perique, unless it's playing like vanilla for whatever reason to me right now lol.
I would have dipped in sooner, but it said bourbon on it lol. Luckily, I don't taste whiskey. Actually I kind of do, if I think about it hard enough, but anything can taste like anything if I search for it. Otherwise, no, wouldn't have picked out any boozy notes on my own, a good thing for me. Whether the tobacco is cased in bourbon or it's an added flavor by Dust, all it's doing at the most is shaping the flavor in the backround.
Mainly what I taste is Virginia. Grassy, lovely Virginia. If there's any other tobaccos involved I'm not picking them up. There's a creamy note too, plays sort of like a vanilla tobacco. It's quite tasty and enjoyable.
...... Ok I just googled Bullseye Flake and what comes up is a Peter Stokkebye VA/Per blend. That doesn't seem right, I don't taste any Perique, unless it's playing like vanilla for whatever reason to me right now lol.
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