Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

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I see that N-E-T.com has taken down the banner saying closed until Aug to get caught up... hope that means Clay is back on track.

Nope, my order from May is still showing processing. The July order has a tracking number. When I checked the USPS website, it shows "Pre-Shipment Info Sent to USPS on July 6" with no additional updates. I placed this particular order on July 3 and three days later a pre-shipping notice is sent? Doesn't make sense to me.
 

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I clearly need to get my hands on some of this Sangria. Mike brings this juice up more than any other.

Who extracted it and how can I score some?

MFT pinched some from a random guy. Then he extracted it and sent me an early test. I think I ended up with the last of it. Shoot me a PM and I'll send a bit in the next week.

In other news I just mixed up an 89ml bottle of Boomers Orlik. Let the steeping begin.
 

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By the way, I spend much too much time with Backwoods Brew - Maple Tobacco this past week. Meh. It is not doing anything for me at all. I am getting very little maple, if any. What I AM getting is the unmistakable tobacco base of BWB. Those of us still nursing the final drops of their discontinued RY4 could pick this taste out of a Pepsi challenge and day of the week. it is not unpleasant, but it is not what a W2V or DIY fan would want. It is that slightly sweet tobacco of unknown origin...I seriously cannot identify a single component of it. it is simply BWBW in all its glory. I have grown beyond it. It just doesn;t do anything for me. Not a hard hitting NET...and if I wanted a sweeter vape I would still never reach for it. It just leaves me wanting and bored. It is not terrible, it is very vapeable, but I would never ever reach for it.

That leaves me 0-3 with the latest BWB order. The waffle is inferior to others I have tried, just lacking on the cakey component AND the maple...the root beer is like rootbeer barrel candy. Tasty enough, but not what I really want in a TRUE root beer.

Now I don't even want to mess with Casablanca...but one day soon when I am feeling frisky, like tomorrow, I will once and for all give that a go.
 

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I see that N-E-T.com has taken down the banner saying closed until Aug to get caught up... hope that means Clay is back on track.

It's back up, and the rest of the site seems inaccessible.

I'm confident that Clay will get things rolling.

One or two mixologists would be put under extremely heavy load trying to fill all the orders placed.

I was going to email them about the juices I accidentally ordered at 12mg, but heck- that just means I can chain vape to my heart's content and maybe reduce my nic levels a bit more.

18mg is fine and all, but even in the Svoemaestro KFL clone, it seems like I have become resistant to it (I become resistant to things quite quickly, as my past experiences with pretty much everything, including coffee [which can put me to sleep if I'm tired], have shown me) for whatever reason.

I'll need to twist and torch a lot of 32AWG kanthal; I already received the pre-ship notification from the Ebay seller for the Vume Bell- Plume Veil RDA.

I might not need to step up or alter that NETCOM order after that thing arrives.

FWIW- regarding batteries, even since I stopped using the Demonfires, I still notice a significant drop in performance and vapor output once my batteries hit around or below 3.7v. However, the Sony VTC5 hybrid ones seem to both take longer to charge, while holding a charge much longer than the former at higher wattage/voltage (Even while being rated at a lower mAh than the Demonfires- but maybe that's because they're Demonfires and not Sony batteries).

May pick up a new mod just to see if I can actually get these things below 3.6 while still maintaining a decent vape- however, I've heard tell that dropping below 3.7 on a battery is undesirable. However, as is the case with lithium batteries in general, I am operating under the assumption that keeping them charged at higher voltage will reduce their total capacity over time; rather than draining them down and doing a full charge from "practically drained entirely" to "fully charged".

I've found that NET gunk does not change the situation: either while gunked up or squeaky clean, the coil performs completely differently with the fresh Sony over one that hits 3.7->3.6v. Almost like a Spinner that's about to lose it's charge and start blinking for a recharge. However, I am most curious about different devices with higher amperage output, and how they perform with NETs- both in flavor, and in performance.

I guess I really just don't know, to be honest.

On a different note:

I'm running out of Latakia, and I'm starting to get concerned. Down to the Ashton's Artisan Blend I picked up a little while back. I have to say, I really like the 'bite' that Latakia provides. Almost replicates the feel of an analog, at least for me. I have mentioned this before, but I was big on hand-rolled buglers before I kicked the analogs to the curb- mainly why I can't really estimate how many of them I actually consumed on a daily basis due to varying sizes and rolling density.

If I'm not mistaken, Bugler was Turkish and Burley, not sure if there was some Virginia in there, but it certainly seemed that the Bugler Gold (much more difficult to locate) had a good portion of VA in it. Though, it's been about 8 years since I had a pouch of Bugler Gold in my possession.

I could never understand why my one buddy liked Kools so much. I was a menthol guy for a good while (but even Kools were pushing it. Like a halls cough drop with burning something in it), but as I started trying out different tobacco styles and actually tasting the tobacco itself, I brand switched off of menthols entirely and just went to straight-up tobacco.

I can't say there's ever been a menthol vape I enjoyed. Mint, yes. Creme de menthe, sure. But never menthol. I had the misfortune of accidentally loading up a tank of a friend's 36mg MBV menthol 555, and I couldn't tell whether it made me more nauseous from the high nicotine level or the menthol itself. Back into the bottle it went. The only reason I loaded it in the tank was that it didn't smell like menthol, but boy oh boy, it sure tasted like it.

Later on, I discovered that there was double-strength menthol in the blend.

It was like puffing on a very dark-colored Halls cough drop. I couldn't really tell what else was in there, all I tasted was Halls, and all I felt was completely nauseated.

It took quite a while to get that flavor out of my EVOD.

No offense to menthol vapers intended, but when it's strong enough to overpower the tobacco flavor- why even bother putting tobacco flavor (or anything else, really) in it?

Switching topics

FT order finally shipped, but I have a feeling I messed up by getting tanks. I really don't know why, I mean... even when I'm out, now nothing really makes me happy but dripping. Maybe this will change over time, though. Maybe. I'm still not sure, but I definitely feel as if dripping brings out the flavor: like a professional boxer throwing an uppercut, compared to a tank feeling like a jab to the face.

It's just....so much easier to mess with drippers and clean them out. Less lost juice, more...well, I guess it's like rediscovering vaping, for me.
 
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I recently purchased some STP CAO Italia from MVJ. At four months this juice really shines. It is a deeper flavor with more complexity and spice. The spice isn't overwhelming or beligerent. It is smooth and serves to add one more layer.

It seems drastically different than the previous bottle I had. The extra 2 months of steeping gave this thing a new personality.
 

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Canada has it's first NET Vendor and they are a Registered Supplier here. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...y-extracted-tobacco-now-available-canada.html

Decent looking selection on the site, and what's even better, they are literally up the road from me.

I'm going to need to look into these guys.

I don't understand their Latakia cigar. There is one on the market. Whynot start from there instead of trying to Frankenjuice one together and go overboard?

For the home extraction crew the name of the Latakia cigar is Specter. 1881 makes a Perique cigar and My Uzi Weighs a Ton Kentucky Fired by Drew Estate uses fire cured Burley and Virginia.
 
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Canada has it's first NET Vendor and they are a Registered Supplier here. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...y-extracted-tobacco-now-available-canada.html

Decent looking selection on the site, and what's even better, they are literally up the road from me.

I'm going to need to look into these guys.

Interesting selection. I like the branding both "Moonshine" and the term "Smoke Brew" which I don't think I have heard before, and very cool and unique bottles The website looks like it is made by the same people as Ahlusion. Man I hate that "quick view" thing that hap[pens when you put the cursor over the image...I don't know why, but I am still not used to it at Ahlusion. Looks like they took pages out of a few top vendors books in terms of website, options, descriptions, color charts...and that they clearly made a choice to state up front there ingredients...as well as one of their juices super gunk factor! Very interesting indeed. I have to believe somebody here knows this guy?

Interesting also that 3 of their initial 7 juices in the Black Label line are analog juice, with two more (7-11 and Notes) being similar to that genre as well, heavy Virginia juices. I am particularly intrigued by Witches Stew and Notes from the Black label line. The cigar line looks like one extraction that they added flavors/extracts too to produce the other juices in the line.

The claim "using real Cuban Cigars" as well as "pure Louisiana Perique." I am very curious if this is the case and, if so, where they are sourcing these tobaccos from.

Very interesting all around.
 
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The website looks like it is made by the same people as Ahlusion. Man I hate that "quick view" thing that hap[pens when you put the cursor over the image...I don't know why, but I am still not used to it at Ahlusion.

You're not alone, quick view drives me nuts on any website!
 

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They claim "using real Cuban Cigars" as well as "pure Louisiana Perique." I am very curious if this is the case and, if so, where they are sourcing these tobaccos from.

I assume that Canada has fewer or less draconian trade restrictions about Cuban exports. As for "pure Louisiana Perique," I regard that as simply one more brick in the Tower of Babel concerning the St. James Parish tobacco.
 

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I assume that Canada has fewer or less draconian trade restrictions about Cuban exports. As for "pure Louisiana Perique," I regard that as simply one more brick in the Tower of Babel concerning the St. James Parish tobacco.

EXACTLY on both. Thus I am super curious as to what is the deal with each...specifically what tobacco they are using and where they are sourcing it from. "Cuban" could be Cuban seed, Cuban wrapper, Cuban filler, 100% pure Cuban, 100% pure Cuban but machine rolled (I used to find these in ijuana all the time, damn nice for the price) or other authentic Cuban clippings...who knows? For the price, which seems very fair, I am damn curious what exactly these "real Cuban cigars" are. " Perique...we have been down this road, and I am just really interested in what they are using. These juices might be the cats pajamas regardless, but I am really curious.
 

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Waiting for the vendor to make his presence known. If and when he takes me up on the offer to meet, I could perhaps get some of these answers. Surprised me to say the least when it popped up today, seeing as I've not heard peep about this in all the vape meets etc that happen locally.

I'm curious about a couple of the juices as well even though the no nicotine addition means that they will primarily be pre-mixed extracts to which nic will need to be added.

Got me curious for sure.
 
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EXACTLY on both. Thus I am super curious as to what is the deal with each...specifically what tobacco they are using and where they are sourcing it from. "Cuban" could be Cuban seed, Cuban wrapper, Cuban filler, 100% pure Cuban, 100% pure Cuban but machine rolled (I used to find these in ijuana all the time, damn nice for the price) or other authentic Cuban clippings...who knows? For the price, which seems very fair, I am damn curious what exactly these "real Cuban cigars" are. " Perique...we have been down this road, and I am just really interested in what they are using. These juices might be the cats pajamas regardless, but I am really curious.

You are absolutely correct as is Bill and Evil Speakers in your observations. It leaves me wondering also! :confused:
 

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The bane of cottage start ups is inventory kiting. I had a little business a few years ago where I repaired and modified sports air rifles and pistols. You have to be careful of not falling into that trap when business is good. I only accepted new jobs when I knew I had any parts I would need on hand and return shipping labels paid for in advance.You bite off more than you can chew and all of a sudden there's no money left to ship your product after you pay your suppliers. You start using money from new orders to pay shipping costs from older orders. Falling more and more behind until word gets around your not shipping or at least very late. Then your out of funds to the point that you can't ship or buy supplies. Bankruptcy is in the cards and both your customers and suppliers lose out. i hope this is not the case with NET.com.


Not back on track enough to have changed the order status, let alone ship, my order from 4/22. It is still "Processing" and I have received no updates of any kind.

Tomorrow will be 14 weeks
 

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ATTENTION: Anyone interested in trying (or just re-stocking their supply) of Ahlusion Smooth Criminal should grab an express bottle (or two) now. The one I received this morning has the PERFECT amount of steep on it. I mean perfect. Rivaling the one I've had chillin' in my drawer for 5 months. Now back to your regularly scheduled forum-ing.
 

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Keep me posted on your MWW findings. My order shipped this morning!

Just started Maple Wild Wood a few minutes ago. It is.... delicious. I hope you enjoy it too, but it is quite different than Maple Burley.

Ahlusion often surprises me by delivering the unexpected. With MWW I was expecting the same maple sugar flavor as Maple Burley, but with the Wild Wood tobacco base instead of the aro burley. That's not what I'm getting here.

The maple plays quite different. It's closer to maple syrup, the authentic variety. There is a hint of the maple sugar flavor of MB, but overall it's a different flavor and feel. The maple is very good, but a much lighter presence than the caramel in CWW. The WW tobacco flavor really shines, it's the star of the show. It's the most tobacco-y of the WWs I've had. That's a huge plus for me, because I love the WW tobacco base. Highly recommended.

This bottle is from the XPress line, so it's fully steeped.
 
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