Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

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NET-com shipping within 72 hours, He also said that all back orders would be filled fist before reopening. I still am waiting for my order from May 15 2014. first order with Net.com) he needs to learn to respond to e-mails.

Just in case... email him again through his website. I know he lost his personal computer sometime after the first of the year and I haven't heard if he got that replaced yet... This way you know he should have at least a recent email from you. You can also make sure the contact issue isn't on your side... log onto your ISP's webmail and check in the spam folder just to double check and play it safe and have ensured the issues isn't something on your side.
 

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When I'm going to extract a cigar I will try and get close to a 6x60 size and I use all of it in 70-80 mls. For loose pipe tobacco's i use a full ounce for that volume. I feel that doing it this way gives me more flavor. YMMV.

I use the same amounts of tobacco for my macerations (full cigar and one ounce of loose tobacco, which are generally the quantities I buy), although my target yield has been a bit higher than yours---about 100ml, down from 130ml last year. I started out in Spring 2013 using half that much tobacco, but I see no point to that anymore, since I have no intention of extracting the same tobacco a second time, and I don't want to have an ever-increasing inventory of baggies with half a cigar or half an ounce of loose tobacco.

Recently I've had thoughts of going to lower yields of extract, such as 60ml. Those intentions haven't yet materialized, though, because I like to be able to see the solvent liquid in the maceration jar (as a way to easily verify the color change). Starting with 70-80ml (which will yield 60ml) is barely enough solvent to cover a cigar or an ounce of tobacco, so I've typically added more. That's going to change, however.

My next batch is planned as low-heat-assisted macerations using a solvent of 85%PG/15%PGA, and I intend to force myself to add only 70-80ml of solvent at the beginning. Ending up with 3-4 ounces of finished extract is overkill and pointless for me, since I'll never be able to vape or give away that much. Four-ounce glass dropper bottles are expensive and take up too much space anyway. I've already got a huge drawer filled with my own extracts, plus two smaller drawers filled with swapped extracts from you, Johni, Dustmight, MFToms, and clnire. I'm completely out of storage space!

If I didn't enjoy making extracts so much, I'd stop now, because I have enough already to make juice for an army. At an average mix ratio of 20%, my current stock of NET extract would make 20 liters of juice. Shoot, that's just plain silly.
 

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Quick update on SGP. I am glad that Jerms mentioned not being able to tell where the peach ends and tobacco begins because I quit looking. I spent all morning with it and am really digging it; I do get the feel of a tobacco with that NET-like throat hit and all. My initial confusion came from my expectations; was expecting it to be like apple cured tobacco from GeJ where I was able to tell where the tobacco and apple came into play. SGP is different though. The flavors blend together where they become one (if that makes any sense). Kinda diggin it today.

Question. Been thinking of ordering from Ahlusion in the near future and have been eyeing a couple other aromatics as well. Is Smoking Cherries the same way where the cherry and tobacco blend this well? Been eyeing that one also so inquiring minds, like me, would like to know.
 

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I use the same amounts of tobacco for my macerations (full cigar and one ounce of loose tobacco, which are generally the quantities I buy), although my target yield has been a bit higher than yours---about 100ml, down from 130ml last year. I started out in Spring 2013 using half that much tobacco, but I see no point to that anymore, since I have no intention of extracting the same tobacco a second time, and I don't want to have an ever-increasing inventory of baggies with half a cigar or half an ounce of loose tobacco.

Recently I've had thoughts of going to lower yields of extract, such as 60ml. Those intentions haven't yet materialized, though, because I like to be able to see the solvent liquid in the maceration jar (as a way to easily verify the color change). Starting with 70-80ml (which will yield 60ml) is barely enough solvent to cover a cigar or an ounce of tobacco, so I've typically added more. That's going to change, however.

My next batch is planned as low-heat-assisted macerations using a solvent of 85%PG/15%PGA, and I intend to force myself to add only 70-80ml of solvent at the beginning. Ending up with 3-4 ounces of finished extract is overkill and pointless for me, since I'll never be able to vape or give away that much. Four-ounce glass dropper bottles are expensive and take up too much space anyway. I've already got a huge drawer filled with my own extracts, plus two smaller drawers filled with swapped extracts from you, Johni, Dustmight, MFToms, and clnire. I'm completely out of storage space!

If I didn't enjoy making extracts so much, I'd stop now, because I have enough already to make juice for an army. At an average mix ratio of 20%, my current stock of NET extract would make 20 liters of juice. Shoot, that's just plain silly.

Bill, all I can say is your extracts are spot on and I for one, like them a great deal. This in no way is meant to slight any other of you extractors on the thread. The only other extractor I have been privileged to try, as of yet, is Johni's and I hold his extractions in very high regards also. I do intend to try some of the extracts you other extractors provide for us as soon as I can. However, do to Mr. Mann's generosity, I may be looking at December, LOL. :laugh:
 

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Quick update on SGP. I am glad that Jerms mentioned not being able to tell where the peach ends and tobacco begins because I quit looking. I spent all morning with it and am really digging it; I do get the feel of a tobacco with that NET-like throat hit and all. My initial confusion came from my expectations; was expecting it to be like apple cured tobacco from GeJ where I was able to tell where the tobacco and apple came into play. SGP is different though. The flavors blend together where they become one (if that makes any sense). Kinda diggin it today.

Question. Been thinking of ordering from Ahlusion in the near future and have been eyeing a couple other aromatics as well. Is Smoking Cherries the same way where the cherry and tobacco blend this well? Been eyeing that one also so inquiring minds, like me, would like to know.

They are all kind of like that, although to my taste, SGP and Cocoa Blend most of all. But Maple Burley and Vurley also have that brilliant blending of the tobacco with the complementary flavors. You should try 'em all.
 

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They are all kind of like that, although to my taste, SGP and Cocoa Blend most of all. But Maple Burley and Vurley also have that brilliant blending of the tobacco with the complementary flavors. You should try 'em all.

Was gonna get Maple Burley already as Hey Jack was the first NET I tried and have always like it; been liking other maple flavors since. Plus, it gets so much good talk about it, it was on my radar. The Coca Blend was also there for kinda the same reasons but not from a NET; a synthetic cocoa/tobacco blend got me into it. Midnite Lite from EV scratched that itch for me but am always trying to find others I like as well. Guess when I make my next order, it will be from Ahlusion and order around 5-6 to get a good idea about the liquid. I made a order yesterday morning to NET.com so probably next week (unless they have a sale, then I'll splurge early). Thanks for the info...Much appreciated!
 

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I have yet to find a maple tobacco that comes anywhere close to Maple Burley. I am hopeful one will emerge, but it hasnt yet

I ordered six 1.5 ounce tins of pipe tobacco yesterday (on sale at pipes&cigars). One of them is:

Cornell & Diehl Autumn Evening (Aromatic)
A red Virginia Cavendish cased with a delicate maple/vanilla flavor. This is one of those rare aromatics that actually tastes the same as it smells. The three day process that’s used to make the blend is what insures the flavor and aroma.

It probably won't be assertively strong in the maple flavor department, but I thought I'd extract a maple-cased tobacco to see. Assuming it turns out moderately well, I'll send you a sample.
 

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I ordered six 1.5 ounce tins of pipe tobacco yesterday (on sale at pipes&cigars). One of them is:

Cornell & Diehl Autumn Evening (Aromatic)
A red Virginia Cavendish cased with a delicate maple/vanilla flavor. This is one of those rare aromatics that actually tastes the same as it smells. The three day process that’s used to make the blend is what insures the flavor and aroma.

It probably won't be assertively strong in the maple flavor department, but I thought I'd extract a maple-cased tobacco to see. Assuming it turns out moderately well, I'll send you a sample.

If it was biologically possible and, you know, not creepy, I would offer to bear your child. Reginald Yusuf Herbst IV
 

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If it was biologically possible and, you know, not creepy, I would offer to bear your child. Reginald Yusuf Herbst IV

I won't head off to the clinic to give a sample of my seed just yet. LOL. Nor will I start a college fund for little Reggie. Double LOL. We'll wait to see if the Cornell & Diehl Autumn Evening is any good.
 

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I ordered six 1.5 ounce tins of pipe tobacco yesterday (on sale at pipes&cigars). One of them is:

Cornell & Diehl Autumn Evening (Aromatic)
A red Virginia Cavendish cased with a delicate maple/vanilla flavor. This is one of those rare aromatics that actually tastes the same as it smells. The three day process that’s used to make the blend is what insures the flavor and aroma.

It probably won't be assertively strong in the maple flavor department, but I thought I'd extract a maple-cased tobacco to see. Assuming it turns out moderately well, I'll send you a sample.

I'd like to try that too! Perhaps a trade for some thoroughly cleaned and sanitized cobalt glass bottles and unused droppers?
 

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I won't head off to the clinic to give a sample of my seed just yet. LOL. Nor will I start a college fund for little Reggie. Double LOL. We'll wait to see if the Cornell & Diehl Autumn Evening is any good.

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If it was biologically possible and, you know, not creepy, I would offer to bear your child. Reginald Yusuf Herbst IV

I might be able to help you out.

If both of you send me full bottles of some of those home made extracts I might be able to scrape some DNA off them. I have a German Shepherd that's ovulating right now, and my wife's a chemical engineer. While I am not sure how, or if that even matters, I always wanted to mention it.

Just know, the offer is on the table.

Sincerely,

Skeebo
 
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