yes I'm sure I ordered from him when he first started his business. I may have overstated the time element, but I am sure about what I compared whether it's a full few years or somewhat less.
Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux
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yes I'm sure I ordered from him when he first started his business. I may have overstated the time element, but I am sure about what I compared whether it's a full few years or somewhat less.
The "few years" made we wonder if you were comparing apples to apples. Employing literary license in a little overstatement for emphasis doesn't bother me.
Ever since the launch date there has been occasional discussion pop up regarding perceived variation in extract consistency based on colour. I never noticed it, but I haven't had any of their e-liquids since the end of 2013.
I haven't seen any drastic change in the four that I just re-ordered in the middle of August vs the ones I got during the end of 2013 ( November if I recall ). The ones I received last were Big Spirit, Blackberry Burley, Air Cured Burley and Sun Cured Turkish. I'd also received some of his beta e-liquids and some freeby samples but I hadn't had any of those previously so can't compare them.
Having said that... NET's from any vendor, since they are extracted from a natural product like tobacco, will have changes each season simply because that is how natural products are. Tobacco, like fruits, vegetables and other natural products do differ each season and also with age of the leaves. Blends of tobaccos that get their tobaccos from various sources, like Big Spirit ( ie American Spirit tobacco ) will see less change than say a single varietal which comes only from a single source.
I think there are two versions. I like the ones that are less than a dollar a piece. They have real short chimney but seem to last a long time. I wouldn't use them or any clearomizer for a net though, 'cause they with start tasting funny after about half a day depending on how much you vape.
A lot of nets nets even those I've extracted myself vary in taste because the tobacco changes. If you don't like that look into a simple tobacco with a lot of sales volume, like Capt Black Dark.
You aren't paying attention to what others are saying again... you just posted to my reply to checksum which said that changes are to be expected... I already understood that.
As one of my posts were, your post was just the jumping off point for the reply... Basically reconfirming what you said.
I fully agree with you Rdsok, tobaccos change from year to year and I really was trying to get some of the others feedback. Many of the ones I got where just as good as before. However, for some reason a few others I had tried in the past where a bit "off." It probably was a fluke.
Hello all. First time poster here. I've been reading this thread for weeks. I've been vaping for a few months now. Anxiously awaiting my shipment of Big Spirit from NET.com ( I've been smoking American Spirits for close to 20 years). I'm very interested in NETs, I think they will work wonders to finally get me away from analogs for good. I'm a little concerned with how the NETs will "gunk" up my coils though. Currently using ego batts, an itaste MVP and Kanger mini protank 3 topper. Can anyone recommend a easy to set up, cost effective RBA and MOD (clone) that would work well with all these NETs I want to get into?
If you don't want to go above 11 Watts, there is no need to get a mod, the MVP is fine.
I can't really comment on drippers, since i still use the trident and patriot clones for testing juices only and don't keep abreast the latest developments. But all the rave on this thread seems to be about the Magma.
As far as RTA's go, i use Tayfun clones and Kayfun clones. Easy to rebuild, but the only way to vape a full tank of the gunkier NET's is to build a non-contact coil at a higher diameter ( 2.2 mm ), in my experience. Fasttech Tayfuns have worked fine for me but the Kayfuns not so much. EHPro Kayfuns have been the best i have tried. About $ 35 on Ebay and a little more on 101Vape.
You can also rebuild the PT3 coils as a single non contact coil as i do and get a full tank easily, with even the gunkiest NET's ( 29 g kanthal, 2 mm non-contact tensioned coil, about 7 wraps with KGD cotton ). This would be the cheapest option. I actually use my pt's more than kay/tai's because i prefer the draw and the taste is very very close to what i get on a kayfun clone. Make sure to get the aerotank air flow control base though, if you don't have it already. Huge improvement on the pt3 base.
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idn't realize you said mini pt3. You could get more than a full tank on these before you dry burn and re-wick.It is a little more difficult to rebuild a pt head, because of the confined space, but once you get the hang of it quite fast. If cost is not an issue you, Kayfun clones and Tayfun clones are easier to re-build. If dripping is not inconvenient for you, re-building and especially re-wicking is easiest of all on drippers.
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From what I read around this forum, a Magma seems to be a popular RDA partly because of the wells to hold liquid. Your MVP will be fine unless you get into low ohms.
Edit: Mazinny beat me to the same conclusion.
Edit: Mazinny beat me to the same conclusion.
I use Evods/protank/mini protank and Davides on MVPs and ego twists. I have other mods, but rebuilding coils for the protank types is really easy once you build 1 or 2. I usually use 30g, 9/10 wrap or 32g 5 wrap on a 16 gauge needle for about 1.8-2.0 ohms. Wick with organic cotton or now mostly KGD cotton. About every 1 -2 fills I remove the wick, dry burn and put in a new wick. One thing I like about these is you don't have to empty the tank to clean the coil. Just what works for me.
I just got a Magma the other day and although I have a few other low end clone drippers, this Magma kicks out flavor like no other.
Staying around 1.8 - 2.0 ohms and less than 11 watts is fine on these batteries. I usually am perfectly happy around 7.5-8 watts. Again, just what works for me.
I just got a Magma the other day and although I have a few other low end clone drippers, this Magma kicks out flavor like no other.
Staying around 1.8 - 2.0 ohms and less than 11 watts is fine on these batteries. I usually am perfectly happy around 7.5-8 watts. Again, just what works for me.
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I certainly agree with a lot of what has already been suggested. I really like my EHPro Kayfun ( not all clones are equal ) and the Infinite Magma in the area of rebuildable's. I also rebuild and use the Mini Protank 1 & 2 with good success.
When it comes to types of coils ( micro coil or regular spring type ), wicks and the type and gauge of wire... you'll find a lot of personal opinions based on what works well for that person. As some examples, but by no means all of them...
I like a micro coil vs the regular ( what Mazinny called non-contact ) type and I felt that the micro-coil produced more flavor and didn't gunk as much. Mazinny felt that the regular ( non-contact ) type didn't gunk as quickly. I suspect that how each of us vapes and uses the atomizer's may explain why the differences of opinion exist.
Another example of personal preference ... I like using silica wick more for ease of cleaning by using a dry burn. Others find that changing out their organic ( or other ) cotton wicks is just as quick or easy. So this is another area that you will only be the one to say what works best for you.
Mods... Another area with a lot of different opinions. Mech Mods can allow higher amperage loads which allow higher power levels by going with sub-ohm coils, but that is now being challenged by the higher power output VV/VW mods like the DNA's and similar who can now reach those power levels by increasing their output to the level that best matchs each coil's resistance. A couple of down sides to the Mech Mods are that they require you change the resistance of the coil to reach the power which also alters the surface area affecting the flavor and saturation output. They also require more regular cleaning of the mod's threads and contact areas but all mods require some of that anyway. The variable outputs ( both VV and VW ) limitations are with the output they can provide. They can be limited by any of their specs... ie wattages of only say 7w-30w ( there are higher ones available ), amperage limits and/or voltage limits, as are the range of resistances they work within... reach a limit in any of those areas and the device may not perform up to the limits set in the other areas.
Getting suggestions is a good place to start... Just know that you will have your own preferences and what works well for one of us, may not be what you find is the same for yourself. So keep in mind that what you are asking about... is very subjective.
I certainly agree with a lot of what has already been suggested. I really like my EHPro Kayfun ( not all clones are equal ) and the Infinite Magma in the area of rebuildable's. I also rebuild and use the Mini Protank 1 & 2 with good success.
When it comes to types of coils ( micro coil or regular spring type ), wicks and the type and gauge of wire... you'll find a lot of personal opinions based on what works well for that person. As some examples, but by no means all of them...
I like a micro coil vs the regular ( what Mazinny called non-contact ) type and I felt that the micro-coil produced more flavor and didn't gunk as much. Mazinny felt that the regular ( non-contact ) type didn't gunk as quickly. I suspect that how each of us vapes and uses the atomizer's may explain why the differences of opinion exist.
Another example of personal preference ... I like using silica wick more for ease of cleaning by using a dry burn. Others find that changing out their organic ( or other ) cotton wicks is just as quick or easy. So this is another area that you will only be the one to say what works best for you.
Mods... Another area with a lot of different opinions. Mech Mods can allow higher amperage loads which allow higher power levels by going with sub-ohm coils, but that is now being challenged by the higher power output VV/VW mods like the DNA's and similar who can now reach those power levels by increasing their output to the level that best matchs each coil's resistance. A couple of down sides to the Mech Mods are that they require you change the resistance of the coil to reach the power which also alters the surface area affecting the flavor and saturation output. They also require more regular cleaning of the mod's threads and contact areas but all mods require some of that anyway. The variable outputs ( both VV and VW ) limitations are with the output they can provide. They can be limited by any of their specs... ie wattages of only say 7w-30w ( there are higher ones available ), amperage limits and/or voltage limits, as are the range of resistances they work within... reach a limit in any of those areas and the device may not perform up to the limits set in the other areas.
Getting suggestions is a good place to start... Just know that you will have your own preferences and what works well for one of us, may not be what you find is the same for yourself. So keep in mind that what you are asking about... is very subjective.
Because the aspire mini can vape at 14 watts, which is novelty for me, I experimented with a lung hit on my 18 mg Nic juice, my staple strength.
I took two big lung hits and was nicotine high for the rest of the day. It ruined the pleasure of vaping for me for a whole day.
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Thanks rdsok , mzinny and the others. I've been a fan of tobacco of all types for many years. I've mentioned the American Spirits, but also smoked pipes usually preferring black and gold, and many fine cigars. I even chewed tobacco for several years when I was younger. I really believe these NETs are the ticket for me. I'm in this for the long haul. I like the idea that I can use my MVP as long as I keep the coils above .8 ohm which I plan too. I'm not a cloud chaser, I couldn't care less about how big a cloud of vapor I produce. Flavor however is very important to me. I should watch some YouTube videos of coil builds and pick up a RBA. I plan on learning a simple 1.5 ohm coil build. Maybe I'll pick up a magma. Seems like these work for a lot of people and have a large area to build in.
I agree with this advice. When asked for general hardware recommendations, all I can provide is my opinion of the limited amount of devices I've used (a fraction of what's available). Those opinions will be based on my personal preferences. With the immense differences in personal preferences and huge variety in hardware options, it adds up to my recommendations probably having very little value.
There really isn't a short answer to the 'what hardware should I get' question that applies for all. Instead, you'll get as many different opinions as people who answer. Better to research what's available, find what you think you may like, and ask people's opinions of that specific device.
Or.. if someone would rather have a short answer... Nemesis mech and Atomic dripper.
Its called agreeing with you, sorry but yours isn't the end of all opinions.
Received in the mail the other day the Nautilus Mini with BVC. Decided to baptize it with NETcom's Coconut Cavendish. Really liking the natural coconut with the cavendish as well as the Nautilus Mini for my taste. Although I do have some rebuildables, tanks such as the Aspire Nautilus works for me because of the convenience and ease of use.
I haven't smoked any tobacco since October 2010, literally since the day I started vaping, but the 38 years of smoking before then have made lung hits verboten in my world. I've tried taking a lung hit maybe five times in almost four years of vaping, and each time I did, I immediately began coughing so violently that it made me dizzy and sick. Last time I tried one was two years ago. I won't ever try again.
Or.. if someone would rather have a short answer... Nemesis mech and Atomic dripper.
Obviously coming from a person that is still waiting for their Magma to come in from FT j/k ...
Obviously coming from a person that is still waiting for their Magma to come in from FT j/k ...
LOL!
So true though
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