Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

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I'd take it as a hint that NETs will get most likely to be banned. Why would Ahlusion axe them unless they got some insider info. Or maybe the kind of analysis and future "up to code" production facilities will be cost prohibiteve. Or perhaps a NET related law suit is brewing somewhere....

I don't know about banned, but from what a few companies have told me, there's a suspicion that NETs will be treated differently than other e-liquids and possibly taxed. Of course there's a lot of conjecture happening. I don't find anything wrong or fishy about Ahlusion's rewording. If anything, it seems forward thinking and smart. I'm surprised some people have an issue with it, considering that the company has served many of us well for years.
 

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:shock: For that price you better be hand-delivering it dressed up in a Playboy bunny outfit buddy!! :sneaky:[/QUOT]

Oh boy, I don't think you'd want to see me in a Playboy bunny suit (45+ year old male) -- it might be very traumatic :)

But of course, my extracts also regrows hair on head like a 15 y/o teenager's :)
 

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I don't know about banned, but from what a few companies have told me, there's a suspicion that NETs will be treated differently than other e-liquids and possibly taxed. Of course there's a lot of conjecture happening. I don't find anything wrong or fishy about Ahlusion's rewording. If anything, it seems forward thinking and smart. I'm surprised some people have an issue with it, considering that the company has served many of us well for years.

Personally, I don't have a strong opinion about Ahlusion about this issue compared to others. I just got confused though about their wording and change of wording.
 

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Yes. :)

This is what I think is happening too. Wlad's experience in the food industry and familiarity with the FDA has always kept him a few steps ahead of other juice makers. I'm certain that the rewording is a CYA thing. I do wonder what the future holds for other NET vendors.

I'm going to go way out on a limb and call it a careful businessman practicing due diligence by deploying defensive marketing.

No, I am not being critical of Ahl or Wlad. Not one bit.
 

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I'd take it as a hint that NETs will get most likely to be banned. Why would Ahlusion axe them unless they got some insider info. Or maybe the kind of analysis and future "up to code" production facilities will be cost prohibiteve. Or perhaps a NET related law suit is brewing somewhere....

Tobacco is not an illegal substance in the U.S.
NETs won't be banned.
 

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So wait, a change they claimed didnt happen, or false advertising in the past??

Either way, not gonna deal with them.. Dont like when stuff like this happens and we are left guessing about whether we got scammed.

Yeah, I feel scammed. All the stuff that seemed so unbelievably delicious now turns out to be yucky because they don't call it NET. Mmm hmm.
 

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I'd take it as a hint that NETs will get most likely to be banned. Why would Ahlusion axe them unless they got some insider info. Or maybe the kind of analysis and future "up to code" production facilities will be cost prohibiteve. Or perhaps a NET related law suit is brewing somewhere....

He doesn't have inside info from the FDA. He's guessing -- and probably correctly.
 

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It's a mental thing, I'm sure! :D

Yeah, we're all going mental these days. :lol:

But I think I might have beaten the rest of you folks to that point. :banana:

...it's just the nic talking. I'll just keep telling myself that.

Also, anyone else find NETCom's Black Cavendish to be amazing in a dripper?

My only gripe with the PV clone is that it wants to make little droplets at the side where the lower airholes are: Like it wants to leak, but isn't.

Going to have to block those off when I rewick it and see what happens. I don't mind using the other AFCs if these little ones at the bottom want to look like they want to leak whenever I drip through the tip.
 

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My resulting extract is very clean tasting until about 1.5 ml of vaping than smokiness kicks in. I was hoping at least 3ml of clean vaping. I think I also used too much extract in the final juice....I could have cut it by 25-30% which have given me more clean vaping milage.

What is your mix ratio? I went 4ml with my Milan Tobaconist Celebration (a heavily cased pipe blend) that I filtered at 3 microns.
 

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What is your mix ratio? I went 4ml with my Milan Tobaconist Celebration (a heavily cased pipe blend) that I filtered at 3 microns.

My NET base is 7 ASO cigarettes in 70 ml of PG. Then mixed at 33% in juice. I'll try 20% next time. It's quite a potent at 33% but I can get a lot of nuances from it. It aged quite a bit too.
 

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My NET base is 7 ASO cigarettes in 70 ml of PG. Then mixed at 33% in juice. I'll try 20% next time. It's quite a potent at 33% but I can get a lot of nuances from it. It aged quite a bit too.

Yeah, try dialing it back to 20% or even 15%. I know Johni's 2.5 Micron Kuba Deluxe can go 4ml with ease and I believe it is mixed at 20%. My 20% ratio 100% PG test juice ran 4ml with very little coloring of the wick and if it gunked any I didn't notice.
 

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:shock: For that price you better be hand-delivering it dressed up in a Playboy bunny outfit buddy!! :sneaky:[/QUOT]

Oh boy, I don't think you'd want to see me in a Playboy bunny suit (45+ year old male) -- it might be very traumatic :)

But of course, my extracts also regrows hair on head like a 15 y/o teenager's :)

With the effort of pushing that extract through four filterings of cotton and then pushing it through a 0.2 micron filter, are you sure it's hair it grows and not hemorrhoids? I am pleasantly surprised that you are getting an extract with flavor.
 

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Yeah, I feel scammed. All the stuff that seemed so unbelievably delicious now turns out to be yucky because they don't call it NET. Mmm hmm.

Say what you want, but if it was suppose to be a NET and its not.. What do you call it then?

If I sold you a tank, say, Nautilus, and left you with the impression it was authentic, but its not, what would you think? What would you think of me?

Again, this thread is irritating.. :facepalm:
 
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