I am. Loving the tobacco and it's not too sweet which is great. There's a bit of an undertaste, I'm not sure what it is but I hope it diminishes with a little steeping.
Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux
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I use around 20% on average for pipe tobaccos and up to 30% for cigars. Your cotton is going to turn black even with the cleanest juice. When you pull it to re-wick, squeeze it out and it turns ivory again. I go through a Kayfun tank full of juice without re-wicking. You might want to make sure your coil isn't wrapped too tight around the cotton as that will burn it black.
I haven't used mesh in awhile. I used to use 325 mesh to re-wick my EVOD's but it's not worth the trouble and my mesh tanks were retired long ago.
I'm going to wait and see what the experts say about temp control after there are a few different models out on the market. I might spring for one then if I think they're worth it. Sometime's you just have to say no to your impulses. I'd love to grab an Atlantis but I'll be darned if I'll spring for another different coil assembly, especially if I can't rebuild it myself.
I haven't used mesh in awhile. I used to use 325 mesh to re-wick my EVOD's but it's not worth the trouble and my mesh tanks were retired long ago.
I'm going to wait and see what the experts say about temp control after there are a few different models out on the market. I might spring for one then if I think they're worth it. Sometime's you just have to say no to your impulses. I'd love to grab an Atlantis but I'll be darned if I'll spring for another different coil assembly, especially if I can't rebuild it myself.
I'm also getting an after/under taste with MVJ's Our RY4 that I mixed last week sometime ( Diane extracted 11/2 ). It was 2012 when I last had an arti/synth tobacco.. so perhaps its the difference between that and a NET that I'm getting but I don't think so.
Whatever the flavor I'm sensing is... it does hide pretty well under the other flavors and I only notice it during the exhale on this mix, but just barely. In fact, it's a flavor note I'm familiar with but just can't quite put my finger on it. I originally thought it was part of the etOH alcohol taste that is common with some flavorings... but most if not all ( if this isn't part of that ) of that is gone now.
I haven't yet ordered SI's Volt RY4... I may today if I find the time during work.
Have you tried rayon wick? Many get noticeably slower gunk build-up compared to cotton and rayon seems to handle high temps without darkening as quick because of the increased flow it provides. I've gone back to KGD cotton until I use up my 12mg nic juices and really notice the decreased longevity compared to the CelluCotton rayon.
Awesome, glad it's working for you. The undertaste may be the Chineseyness coming through
It may lessen after being exposed to American air.
Awesome, glad it's working for you. The undertaste may be the Chineseyness coming through
"Chineseyness." I love it! LOL. Perhaps we should adopt that as a formal term.
Thanks Jerms - I am a bit wary of rayon. Not a well-informed opinion since I haven't bothered so far to really look into the discussion on the issue, but in any event haven't tried it. To tell the truth haven't even gotten to Japanese cotton yet since it has been hard to order out here, but have some Muji on the way now so I am hoping that is at least marginally better than my current Pima cotton.
btw I saw El Toro has liquids back in stock in 6mg so I ordered some Puros and Guevara, looking forward to trying them out. At the moment enjoying the last of my EV Pure Burley in a Hermes dripper - it's about 6 months old and seems to have aged very nicely
Awesome, glad it's working for you. The undertaste may be the Chineseyness coming through
So you two are now recommending Chineseyness RY4's using artibacco's ...
So this here Confederate stuff ( yup, already delivered ) do I steep it? I hope so 'cause it just isn't doing anything for me right out of the bottle. Vanilla Skye on the other hand, nom.
So you two are now recommending Chineseyness RY4's using artibacco's ...
I don't have a lot of experience with RY4's but based on a limited sample size and anecdotal evidence, Chineseyness is not a bad thing when it comes to RY4's imo ... just saying.
I received my 2 bottles (30ml) of Confederate today, along with 2 sample bottles (10ml) of Gold Leaf & Bright Burley. I'm not even going to sample the Confederate until next week, but I did fill my magma rda with some Gold Leaf. The Gold Leaf tasted exactly how it was described: "It is a simple smooth natural tobacco." It worked well for me with little, if no, sweetness. I'm going to leave it alone for a week and see how/if it changes any. I'm going to have a try of the Bright Burley tomorrow.
Shipping time was excellent. I ordered on 12/11 and received it today.
When I first ordered from EV, in general Vash had recommended trying the eliquids when they arrived and then something like 24-48 hours later as that is when he noticed the flavor changed. For myself I always let my NET eliquids steep regardless of the vendor.
Good choice on the Gold leaf; it is one of the blends I go to when I am in a cigarette mood. It has that dry quality in the Burley which kinda reminds my brain of the smoke effect from a cigarette. Mixed with that brightness from the Virginia's, it just screams cigarette to my senses and has become a go to in situations where I might chain vape (much like when I would chain smoke). Very basic, straight forward type of vape; nothing to complicated going on.
As for Confederate: it is not bad out of the mail but the flavors of the Va/Per/Black Cavendish come alive with a little steep. Just have to remember that it is not the typical Va/Per blend as the cavendish brings out a creamy note which really makes it kind of unique.
Whew! Glad I didn't steer ya wrong. And wait - it just gets better!
Finally, my taste buds are starting to come back so will be sampling these tonight and over the weekend. Just dislike the fact that I missed tasting it out of the mail and seeing how it changed due to a ridiculously long cold/flu I had. I do agree that RBFS becomes better with a nice steep as the stuff I originally ordered a few months ago have really come together nicely. The Petner's Pipe and Porch Rocker have come along nicely with Porch Rocker almost tasting completely different; in a good way which I did not think it could do as I loved it so much out of the mail.
lol. exactly! thanks for explaining what I tasted because that is spot on.
So you two are now recommending Chineseyness RY4's using artibacco's ...
LOL. Yes!
Among the more surprising results of this thread is the irony that some of us have developed a greater appreciation of good synthetic tobacco than we had before the thread. One of the best uses of synthetic tobacco flavorings is as bases for RY4s, especially in Classic RY4s, where the balanced, unified flavor profile downplays the synthetic nature of their lab-based tobacco flavorings.
Of the 165-or-so RY4s retail RY4s I've reviewed and ranked on The Really Big RY4 Roundup thread, only 28 RY4s get an "A" or "A-" grade from me. Of those 28 top-rated RY4s, 24 are made with synthetic tobacco (14 Classics, 10 Customs), while only 4 are made with natural tobacco flavoring. (The ratio in the retail marketplace of synthetic tobacco RY4s to natural tobacco RY4s is about 8:1. As group, I grade the natural tobacco RY4s higher, because I think they're tastier overall than the average synthetic-based RY4. Clay's recent entry, N-E-T RY4.1, is another worthy contender among natural tobacco RY4s, most of which are very good. The synthetic-based RY4s are all over the map, from brilliant to dreadful.
That said, the Classic genre (with its synthetic Chineseyness, LOL) offers some terrific, delicious RY4s. The RY4 that was mentioned in the thread recently---Smokeless Image Volt RY4---that kicked off this diversion, is one of the best Classic RY4s ever made by the Chinese. Inexpensive, too! I don't know of any NET-based RY4s made in China, however. Natural tobacco RY4s seem to be exclusively an American invention, as is the whole genre of what is now called Custom or Modern RY4.
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