Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

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EDIT: For some reason ECF is censoring the URL. I seem to remember a censor issue with Vapenstein in the past. Anyone know why???

yeah ECF and I had issues back when I was involved with product. I completely understand and this is their playground, their rules. There were bad feelings back then, but not any more. I am not a registered reviewer so I don't mention my site here, but I really don't need to and that's not why I'm here. I am here for exactly the same reason all of you are, to share knowledge and experience. I am glad that the bad blood between ECF and myself is in the past and hope it stays that way as I like participating here.
 

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Anything new and promising at MVJ that hasn't been discussed here. I'm putting an order in for Hearth and Home Lousiana Red Pipe, Dunhill English Morning Pipe and Drew Estate Heirloom Cherry Pipe so far. I placed my first order from MVJ in early Dec. which was cigars. I had it sent to my US mailing address and my ex-wife said "I sent it" and much later "They sent it back" we'll see when i go back in June.

I've been vaping Louisiana Red for a couple days now. I have the extract, mixed at 30/70 PG/VG, and it works great in a .5 dripper. A little sweet from the perique, yet that great tobacco taste from the Virginias.
 

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yeah ECF and I had issues back when I was involved with product. I completely understand and this is their playground, their rules. There were bad feelings back then, but not any more. I am not a registered reviewer so I don't mention my site here, but I really don't need to and that's not why I'm here. I am here for exactly the same reason all of you are, to share knowledge and experience. I am glad that the bad blood between ECF and myself is in the past and hope it stays that way as I like participating here.
Always a treat to see you post Vapenstein.
 

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I've been vaping Louisiana Red for a couple days now. I have the extract, mixed at 30/70 PG/VG, and it works great in a .5 dripper. A little sweet from the perique, yet that great tobacco taste from the Virginias.

I haven't had MVJ's extraction of H&H Louisiana Red, but I've had Bill's and it was one of the most enjoyable NETs I've vaped.
 

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Nick from GoodeJuice has released another new NET! Looks to be a single varietal of Connecticut Shade. Not as exciting to me as Lizard Tale, but always nice to see a new release by GeJ!

"Fresh Connecticut shade tobacco is used to make this uniquely flavored NET eliquid. It's a very earthy, grassy type of flavor due to the conditions it is grown in. The tobacco used is 100% grown in Connecticut, not South America where shade seeds are commonly imported to and grown there. Shade is usually used for outer wrappings of premium cigars, which gives this ejuice a cigar-like feel, but is perfect as an alternative to cigarettes. Extremely coil friendly and flavorful, Shade Tobacco is a sure winner in your arsenal of NET's."
 

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That's actually a good idea. It might cut down on the room note or aroma they put off as that is what really gets to me with straight burley blends lately. It is a little off-putting to my senses. However, I don't notice it when mixed with other tobaccos so it must be the aroma of straight burley that bothers me.

I don't worry to much about Latakia blends though. When I am in a mood for them I will vape them for hours at a time, it just seems I don't be in the mood for them as much as I once was. I kind of blame that on my vaping more cigar NET's lately. It's almost like they provide the same satisfaction I go Latakia for.

I know everyone's hating on burley at the moment.

Imma' let you finish, but Want2Vapes Louisville is one of the best burleys of all time!




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OK. Allow me to try to rouse this thread.
Good grief! ....s been lame! :)
Cork sniffing NAZIS and worse!
Bring back the class acts.
This thread has lost it's REAL.
That is all.

Well, we had someone come in late last week with a passionate post about some Njoy Cuban cigar NET-alike liquid but he was run out of town lol

I see some tumbleweed has passed through the thread over the weekend before celebrity appearances by Vapenstein and Luceblueboy rolled in !


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Agreed on the La Jugada. Very strong flavor profile and an excellent candidate for extraction. I wonder how the Curivari Reserva Limitada Cafe Noir would do, it's like smoking a chocolate bar.

I smoke a cigar every evening after dinner. I've pretty much become a Habanos snob and only smoke a handful of Nicaraguans any more, but there are a few that I still adore. For anyone interested who still isn't against an occasional stogie since they picked up vaping, I strongly recommend the following. Cubans: San Cristobal de La Habana El Principe, Saint Luis Rey Regios and Serie A, Trinidad Reyes, Cohiba Robusto, Ramon Allones Specially Selected, and Punch Punch. Nicaraguans: Illusione Original. I love these. Really good in Churchill and Lonsdale formats, the 888 Slam and f9. Maybe the one Central American cigar I feel can stand proudly with the Cubans. Also a fan of Curivari, Casa Fernandez and Viaje, which surprise, all use tobacco from the same farm as the Illusione line. Good stuff. Sorry guys, didn't mean to derail.

2 months ago I would have taken your recommendation and smoked one of each, but I am done with smoking good and proper.

Vapenstein are you still extracting and making them commercially available at a vendor site somewhere? Obviously you can't tell me in the forum if you are. But over the last 3 years I've been looking out for where you've gotten too after your involvement at W2V and you've been AWOL. I now see it's a censoring issue at ECF - my source for most NET information.

I don't know if you were influential in the making of alcazar and Managua (can't remember if they were part of want2vapes signature blends at the time) but they are still, IMO two of the best stogie extractions on the market.

I've been vaping alcazar in an evod 2 tank lately which is probably not such a good idea but man, it's all stogie! ( how embarrassing it would be if someone told me it is a pipe blend lol)


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Nick from GoodeJuice has released another new NET! Looks to be a single varietal of Connecticut Shade. Not as exciting to me as Lizard Tale, but always nice to see a new release by GeJ!

"Fresh Connecticut shade tobacco is used to make this uniquely flavored NET eliquid. It's a very earthy, grassy type of flavor due to the conditions it is grown in. The tobacco used is 100% grown in Connecticut, not South America where shade seeds are commonly imported to and grown there. Shade is usually used for outer wrappings of premium cigars, which gives this ejuice a cigar-like feel, but is perfect as an alternative to cigarettes. Extremely coil friendly and flavorful, Shade Tobacco is a sure winner in your arsenal of NET's."

Outer wrapping of premium cigars. Someone catch me, I'm falling.


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Vapenstein are you still extracting and making them commercially available at a vendor site somewhere?

I don't know if you were influential in the making of alcazar and Managua (can't remember if they were part of want2vapes signature blends at the time) but they are still, IMO two of the best stogie extractions on the market.

No, and never say never, but unlikely.

Alcazar was Donley's, Managua was one of the original Vapenstein Blends.
 

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Well I am pretty excited tonight. My order with N-E-T.com (Naturally-Extracted-Tobacco.com) has arrived! It has taken only 8 days from Cedar Rapids, LA USA to Sydney, Australia. .

I know that Clay endured some challenges early last year but whatever happened then is behind him and he is streamrollering ahead in the world of NETS in interesting and exciting ways. I have scooped a whole bunch of his new NETs comprising of Cigar extractions, pipes, varietals, hybrids, tea-baccos and the special cigar extraction called Excalibur. All probably need a good steep. There is so much choice now at NET.com that anyone who is new to the site will be overwhelmed by the array of choices available. I will post some reviews once I have sampled the liquids. One thing I have learnt about any cigar extraction and most of NET.com's liquids is that steeping is the key.

Clay has developed his business with a new professional sheen and edge about it. In my package I got business cards, a leaflet that presents all the e-liquid and extract choices and presents the customer with many different options for custom extractions, Heck, I even got a NET.com pen with a lovely little logo of that now familiar barnyard and tree.

Clay has been very generous in upgrading some of the liquids I ordered in 5ml bottles to 10 ml bottles if he believed I would enjoy them as much as he does. He has also included some beta samplers but for the life of me right now, I am not sure which ones they are because all the liquids are new to me being recent additions to the website. I think one of them might be a liquid simply titled 'I' with a funky graphic of a red eye on the label.

I look forward to these over time and see how they develop.

Edit: I've just sampled the III Castles and if how it tastes in its unsteeped state is anything to go by, it's going to develop into a fine liquid. This is apparently a RYO tobacco extract which was inspired by someone Clay knows.
 
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I've just sampled the III Castles and if how it tastes in its unsteeped state is anything to go by, it's going to develop into a fine liquid. This is apparently a RYO tobacco extract which was inspired by someone Clay knows.

I smoked Three Castles exclusively for about ten years, from the mid-1970s to the mid-1980s. The Brits went to Virginia each year and bought the pick of the Virginian crop---the very finest selection among the various different Virginia tobaccos---then took it back to England and processed it without chemicals or additives. Three castles was indeed an RYO, in a ultra-fine shag cut, packed moist and tight like a pound cake into round (cylindrical) metal tins with beautiful green lids. Imported back into the U.S., Three Castles put to shame every other RYO (such as Drum, Sail, or Flying Dutchman). It was the best by a mile.

Naturally sweet without any toppings, Three Castles was the best-tasting tobacco I ever smoked. A single hand-rolled cig could last an hour. You could take a draw, savor the flavor, put down the cig, and it would stop burning and go out. Then you could relight it in five minutes for another puff. As testimony to its purity, Three Castles had a wonderful room note that even non-smokers liked and passed the "yes, but will girls still want to kiss you?" test with flying colors (I was in my 20s then). If I remember correctly, a 3-ounce tin was $1.85 back in 1975, although the price steadily rose over a decade to almost triple that. A single tin would last me two weeks. I saved the empty tins for storing knick-knacks (rubber bands, paper clips, whatever) and still have one or two in service all these decades later.

Eventually I had to give up Three Castles, though, for two reasons: 1. while the nicotine was quite low, the tar content was brutal in an unfiltered roll-your-own, and cumulatively way too much for my lungs, and 2. finally the U.S. outlawed importing it from Britain, even to the point of banning private shipments from overseas.

Absolutely great stuff. If Clay has been able to replicate the flavor even approximately in a vaping NET, that's a heck of an achievement and some fine magic.
 

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I know everyone's hating on burley at the moment.

Burley's certainly have their place and I don't think everyone was so much "hating" on it as much as just bored with it... It can round out a mix nicely but it doesn't really have a lot of pizzazz, in fact it often just adds some fullness to a blend but doesn't really alter the flavor itself that much... making a nice filler of course.

Although a little monotonous on it's own... I still enjoy it that way still and in a blend I enjoy it even more. Since I have taste issues with Latakia... I like the fire cured burleys to help take that spot even without the spice that I've heared described about Latakia... it's ( FC burley ) better than no smokey flavor at least.

Well, we had someone come in late last week with a passionate post about some Njoy Cuban cigar NET-alike liquid but he was run out of town lol

He wasn't so much run out as he let himself out... he just didn't like everyone else expressing a different opinion that what he had of that vape. The majority of us here are mature enough that someone having a different opinion than what we may hold doesn't really bother us... in fact many seem to be even interested in how those differences are expressed. I know on several occasions others have tasted something I'd overlooked and then found later after they had posted about it... so I certainly enjoy the comments no matter how different they are from my own opinions.
 

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Anything new and promising at MVJ that hasn't been discussed here. I'm putting an order in for Hearth and Home Lousiana Red Pipe, Dunhill English Morning Pipe and Drew Estate Heirloom Cherry Pipe so far. I placed my first order from MVJ in early Dec. which was cigars. I had it sent to my US mailing address and my ex-wife said "I sent it" and much later "They sent it back" we'll see when i go back in June.

I've recently tried, liked and put back on the shelf to get older:
H&H Obsidian
https://www.myvapejuice.com/product_info.php/cPath/22_75/products_id/361
Borkum Riff Special Mix #8
https://www.myvapejuice.com/product_info.php/cPath/22_77/products_id/1146

Both of these, particularly the Borkum Riff, are full and dark and smooth and complex. Very enjoyable. Will be outstanding with a little more time.
 

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I've recently tried, liked and put back on the shelf to get older:
H&H Obsidian
https://www.myvapejuice.com/product_info.php/cPath/22_75/products_id/361
Borkum Riff Special Mix #8
https://www.myvapejuice.com/product_info.php/cPath/22_77/products_id/1146

Both of these, particularly the Borkum Riff, are full and dark and smooth and complex. Very enjoyable. Will be outstanding with a little more time.
I think I'll add the Borkum Riff and I'll look at the H&H too, I won a $50 freebie contest and hate to stop at the $50 mark, that would be just too rude.
Oh how i wish i were in Austin in May for the 13th Floor Elevators first reunion in 48 years!
 

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He wasn't so much run out as he let himself out... he just didn't like everyone else expressing a different opinion that what he had of that vape. The majority of us here are mature enough that someone having a different opinion than what we may hold doesn't really bother us... in fact many seem to be even interested in how those differences are expressed. I know on several occasions others have tasted something I'd overlooked and then found later after they had posted about it... so I certainly enjoy the comments no matter how different they are from my own opinions.

I see your point, but i think there is a fine line between disagreeing with some one elses opinion and being completely dismissive. I honestly wouldn't feel welcome to a new thread either if i got the sort of responses he got. Just saying.
 

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I see your point, but i think there is a fine line between disagreeing with some one elses opinion and being completely dismissive. I honestly wouldn't feel welcome to a new thread either if i got the sort of responses he got. Just saying.

I think he brought a lot of that upon himself by being so obstinate himself ( as we were also ) ... When others with years of known experience on the subject disagree with you on something... you can't just dismiss what they are saying simply because you have a difference of opinion... add to that his own lack of time spent in the thread which brings into question his experience with NETs, and it really begs the question of being able to trust what he is saying ( no to be confused with him believing what he is saying ).
 

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I think I'll add the Borkum Riff and I'll look at the H&H too, I won a $50 freebie contest and hate to stop at the $50 mark, that would be just too rude.
Oh how i wish i were in Austin in May for the 13th Floor Elevators first reunion in 48 years!

I forgot to mention that the Borkum Riff is also in the STP section.

And yeah, Roky! Those were some times back then weren't they...
 
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