Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux
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I haven't tasted homemade, but not because I wouldn't want to. Nobody's offered yet, and, like I said, I find the process of making one myself too much for me to deal with. But I've definitely tasted smokey gunk when I don't rewick my atomizer every day while vaping net.com juices. That's when you get that good taste.
Just can't overdo it too much.
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I bought an 11cm of this from ebay at 8$. Just tested one and it filters as well as a 0.5 micron filter felt, maybe a tad better. Slower but don't drink my juice as much as filter felt.
I thought you were supposed to evaporate the alcohol after extracting before you use it for flavoring.
I had the same experience. You might recall I mentioned the time factor, failure rate of random tobaccos and to go in slow and do a few extractions a few weeks ago.
I did the same thing you did. I charged in with high optimism looking forward to having a bunch of great liquids from the cigars and cigarillos I was smoking during a holiday in Thailand 2 years ago (my bad). I made about 30 extractions. So far the only one that is okay to good is, ironically, an extracted Mevius cigarette in WTA liquid. This happened to be the extraction I least expected to turn out good given that I was extracting a non organic cigarette full of toxins and chemicals.
I still have many of the extracts so I am going to mix them again in sampler sizes and try to get the mix right (use 20% extract instead of 30% and less nicotine).
Alcohol based extractions take time more because you need to pay more attention when evaporating the alcohol. You can't filter your new extraction in a coffee filter or micron paper straight from the jar and wait for it to filter through. There is an important middle step. Get it wrong and you ruin the juice. If there is still too much alcohol you can evaporate further.
What I learnt was to start with smaller batches and use tobaccos that are tried and tested by the experienced DIY NET community. If you can't find a tobacco that is tried and tested then follow some basic tenets such as making sure the tobacco is fresh and tobacco that is aromatic in some way. Pipe tobaccos have a generally higher percentage chance of success.
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I think foggy is guilty ! Let us hang him up on a large tobacco tree. Later we could cut him in little peaces. Anthony, we need your experience !
After this we could use his intestines for a really good juice. Its called:
Bloody Foggy
p.s. This is not a joke, be careful !
I know all about having a bath in 400 degrees Fahrenheit. Would that help?
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The Aromamiser is the same. 2.5 id, 24 gauge is the biggest coil I've been able to squeeze into its insanely tight chamber. Claptons might work in vertical set up, but I don't like verts. For tanks, the Griffin is a winner. I only do velocity style decks these days.
The Griffin does my head in sometimes. It leaks if I am not careful and when I screw it off or on the mod I need to be careful not to adjust the air holes. I once had the air holes fully open once by accident bad juice spilled out like a severed artery.
The griffin has great heavy saturated Vapor but geez it can make me nicotine high.
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The ethanol should all evaporate from my understanding. Any alcohol left in your juice will make it taste sour and unpleasant. I get the feeling your juices might need to be evaporated some more.
Did you evaporate them at all? Where your juices extracted in heat?
Oh Jonny, what have you done ... Lol
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Well I am glad you are glad you contributed to the ratings of the thread Foggy
I am running a nice bath of questionable Fahrenheit for you to relax and unwind in now after a tough day in the Net office. I don't know Fahrenheit. I am Australian. Let's go 400 degrees.
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You are joking or do you really think that you can compare your gunky old stinky atomizer with the taste of a gunky made net which is not beeing filtered for example ?
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No the question was referring to an ethanol extract without reducing later. Str8vision for example does not reduce his ethanol extracts because he does not taste in it in the ready juice later.
Yes, same story of wasting much time and money. 1 l ethanol costs in germany about 25 dollar.
But the choice of pipe tobaccos was my great mistake. I have only experiences with hot ethanol extractions with freeze filtering and reducing in pg later. I have tried many expensive pipe tobaccos and have had only success with peter stokkebye turkish pipe. Rolling tobaccos are better as many pipe tobaccos because they have more smokiness. But its only my taste...
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Of course. Cooked froggies is a french delicatess.
No Anthony. I have made first class extractions by the tutorial of str8vision. I have reduced the ethanol at the end in pg for hours till the ethanol was evaporated. I have perhaps 0-0,2% ethanol in my old juices with the snakes.
I am just fine and hope the same for you. Please drop in more often! Good to hear from you.
Hi everybody, I don't want to derail the thread but I have one question. I am getting ready to go through all my River Bottom Fog Sauces and would really like to know what the best build/coil, best ohm's and rba/rta to use. Thanks!!
There is so much personal preference in what is considered "best" that truly there is no one answer that everyone can agree on. On lower power devices, something like a Protank, Kayfun or perhaps a dripper with lower ohms around 1.2Ω may be best for a certain vaper that may like a tighter draw and is fine with fewer clouds... or on higher power device, a below 1Ω down to 0.5Ω device with a looser draw may what a person prefers. Then there are those that really like a lot of vapor and a super subΩ tank or dripper is what may be liked.
So the place to start is going to be what you own preferences are at this point... then look at devices that fulfill those preference better. What equipment do you already have? What do you prefer more vapor or more flavor? Do you prefer a loose or a tighter draw? .... and any other things you may already know you like would help others make suggestions that are more to your own liking at this point
I have em all!!
jk.....mostly squonkers. I really want to use my Lemo v1 but it's just not wicking right and I believe it has to do with the gunk factor. So, I was thinking of using a squonker so that I would be able to maintain the coil better then that of the Lemo. I have many different bf rda's to use, from tight to open draw and I like them both ways.
Just wanted to get a general idea of what people are using and the type/ohm of coils that might work best for them.
jk.....mostly squonkers. I really want to use my Lemo v1 but it's just not wicking right and I believe it has to do with the gunk factor. So, I was thinking of using a squonker so that I would be able to maintain the coil better then that of the Lemo. I have many different bf rda's to use, from tight to open draw and I like them both ways.Just wanted to get a general idea of what people are using and the type/ohm of coils that might work best for them.
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