Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

[checkum]

Do you still make your own TE's? I've dabbled in mixing some of my own NET"S. I used organic grown tobacco leaves and the flavors tend to be very potent. I just use less at about 8 to 12% in my juice for a very enjoyable taste. What is your preferred extract method?

Oh I sure do. I just had a batch finish I started extracting by the cold method (only one I use 'cause I like the result of the KISS method). the very end of Dec.2015.
My next project just arrived at my home which is ALL the tobaccos every other tobacco vendor is out of. The extremely hard ones to get made by Gawith & Hoggarth Co.

 

[NotSoMini]

I vape NET.com Hybrids. I don’t know if it is my imagination or not but I have found that the newer flavors are kinder on coils. I have been vaping NETs for over two years even though I know NETs tend to gunk coils. I came to the conclusion a long time ago that if I wanted to continue vaping NETs this is what it is so I do not complain about gunking. From a cost point of view for me it is still cheaper to use throw away coils rather than buying cigs and that is how I compare it as I did not start vaping to save money but rather to get off the analogs. I use the hybrid Kabuki tank with the Nautilus coils due to its air flow and flavor improvement over the Nautilus tank. On another note I generally do not vape artibaccos — recently I tried Charlie Nobel’s Pistachio RY4 which I reeeally like taste being subjective.

 

[NotSoMini]

I don't know if you tried the following NET liquid supplier or not.
~All Our Vape Juice, MyVapeJuice, LLC
someone said, a while back, the site was up for sale, but I still see it is still around.

Recently I bought some non-NETs from MVJ and noticed the banner that the site was up for sale was gone. I don't if it is because it was sold or there was a change of mind.

 

[tallini82]

Did you read the last few pages?

Doesn't appear to need revived.

I was more just introducing myself into this thread. I am a big fan of TA's and my home made NET's. Maybe I worded it wrong but I look forward to following this tread and learning everything it has to offer.

 

[tallini82]

Hi ya'll
Do you all enjoy your TE's and NET's with add flavoring (arifitial flavoring like apple and maple syrup types) or more just by themselves?

 

[checkum]

I vape NET.com Hybrids. I don’t know if it is my imagination or not but I have found that the newer flavors are kinder on coils. I have been vaping NETs for over two years even though I know NETs tend to gunk coils. I came to the conclusion a long time ago that if I wanted to continue vaping NETs this is what it is so I do not complain about gunking. From a cost point of view for me it is still cheaper to use throw away coils rather than buying cigs and that is how I compare it as I did not start vaping to save money but rather to get off the analogs. I use the hybrid Kabuki tank with the Nautilus coils due to its air flow and flavor improvement over the Nautilus tank. On another note I generally do not vape artibaccos — recently I tried Charlie Nobel’s Pistachio RY4 which I reeeally like taste being subjective.

I've come to the conclusion, for myself, that NET's that do not gunk, do not have much flavor. That is IMHO the way I find e-liquids. That is not to say I do not enjoy a good flavored NET as a break in routine. I also have found that I get more true flavor with my Subtank Herakles and Crown Uwell tanks at lower watts that on the higher end watts my Sigelei mod can put out. go figure......

 

[tallini82]

I defiantly enjoy my NET's with a little bit of added flavoring. Mostly apple, brown sugar, maple sometimes even a hint of peach. I enjoy suttle hint of these flavors when it comes to NET's. When it comes to TA's I can do them by them self, but I do enjoy them sometimes with vanillas and nutty flavors they tent to go well together.

 

[luceblueboy]

I myself have learned to love NETs with temperature control. I'm using MVJ extracts with primarily VG at 450-520F and 38w with a Super Tank Mini. The cigar was fantastic as well as the single leaf perique extract. It's incredible how many people that are the typical "bros" that are loving these flavors as well.

As for NETs that don't gunk and flavor, I'd suggest using more flavoring. I've been using MVJ at 25-30% flavoring for an incredible experience without destroying the coils.

Soon one of my customers at the vape store is bringing me their Diablo cigar extract. The cigar is medium-full bodied with nicaraguan and dominican tobacco with a spicy finish. I can't wait!

 

[checkum]

I myself have learned to love NETs with temperature control. I'm using MVJ extracts with primarily VG at 450-520F and 38w with a Super Tank Mini. The cigar was fantastic as well as the single leaf perique extract. It's incredible how many people that are the typical "bros" that are loving these flavors as well.

As for NETs that don't gunk and flavor, I'd suggest using more flavoring. I've been using MVJ at 25-30% flavoring for an incredible experience without destroying the coils.

Soon one of my customers at the vape store is bringing me their Diablo cigar extract. The cigar is medium-full bodied with nicaraguan and dominican tobacco with a spicy finish. I can't wait!

Always good to see see you Luceblueboy (and your portraits). I will give the extra extract a try. Hoping to see and hear more from you.

 

[tallini82]

I myself have learned to love NETs with temperature control. I'm using MVJ extracts with primarily VG at 450-520F and 38w with a Super Tank Mini. The cigar was fantastic as well as the single leaf perique extract. It's incredible how many people that are the typical "bros" that are loving these flavors as well.

As for NETs that don't gunk and flavor, I'd suggest using more flavoring. I've been using MVJ at 25-30% flavoring for an incredible experience without destroying the coils.

Soon one of my customers at the vape store is bringing me their Diablo cigar extract. The cigar is medium-full bodied with nicaraguan and dominican tobacco with a spicy finish. I can't wait!

Wow I usually run my tobaccos out of an RTA on a mech mods. I ran some through my Arctic tank with a ti coil. I'm quit blown away with the flavor's I'm getting out of my juice at different temps. It seems like about every 30 to 50 degrees I'm getting different notes. Great info!!!

 

[luceblueboy]

Always good to see see you Luceblueboy (and your portraits). I will give the extra extract a try. Hoping to see and hear more from you.

Thanks but Mr. Mann does the portraits. I'm just a guy that's been using extracts for awhile now and always love to help!

 

[jonnydoe]

I am thinking about the difference extractions methods often. I know only hot ethanol with freeze filtering, hot pg and cold pg. There must be more or not ?

What do the actually vendors do ? How good is co2 extraction or for example water destillation ?

 

[ST Dog]

I know only hot ethanol with freeze filtering, hot pg and cold pg. There must be more or not ?

The was a thread on cold (freezer) ethanol.
Reduces some of the organics you get with heat.

 

[Mazinny]

Yeah I like the flavors. Blacknote and NET are my favorites. Goodiejuice wasnt bad, but compared to BN and NET they taste more like a tobacco flavored juice than a net to me.

Havent tried MyVapeJuice or Mountain Oak.

I am a big fan of GeJ, but i also suspect they use tobacco ( and other ) flavorings in addition to their NET base. Truth be told, despite what they supposedly claim, i suspect HHV does the same. Also felt that Smooth Criminal and other Ahlusion non-aros were not NETs, and my strong suspicion was eventually proven correct in that regard.

 

[Mazinny]

I myself have learned to love NETs with temperature control. I'm using MVJ extracts with primarily VG at 450-520F and 38w with a Super Tank Mini. The cigar was fantastic as well as the single leaf perique extract. It's incredible how many people that are the typical "bros" that are loving these flavors as well.

As for NETs that don't gunk and flavor, I'd suggest using more flavoring. I've been using MVJ at 25-30% flavoring for an incredible experience without destroying the coils.

Soon one of my customers at the vape store is bringing me their Diablo cigar extract. The cigar is medium-full bodied with nicaraguan and dominican tobacco with a spicy finish. I can't wait!

Couldn't agree more with flavoring percentages and MVJ. My first order with them was finished liquids, and i was underwhelmed. When i found out they use their extracts at 15 % , i ordered the extracts and mixed at 25 % and there was a noticeable improvement.

 

[rdsok]

Couldn't agree more with flavoring percentages and MVJ. My first order with them was finished liquids, and i was underwhelmed. When i found out they use their extracts at 15 % , i ordered the extracts and mixed at 25 % and there was a noticeable improvement.

Actually most of MVJ is mixed at about the 20% ratio but it does vary depending on each flavor selected. Diane also usually recommends starting at 20% when using the extracts and vary it from there according to the users tastes.

 

[dsheik]

I am a big fan of GeJ, but i also suspect they use tobacco ( and other ) flavorings in addition to their NET base. Truth be told, despite what they supposedly claim, i suspect HHV does the same. Also felt that Smooth Criminal and other Ahlusion non-aros were not NETs, and my strong suspicion was eventually proven correct in that regard.

Good call on HHV. I like them too, but I too suspect they use flavorings on top of the net base. I think you can tell if you got a pure NET or a net base with artificial flavors added.

 

[Mazinny]

Actually most of MVJ is mixed at about the 20% ratio but it does vary depending on each flavor selected. Diane also usually recommends starting at 20% when using the extracts and vary it from there according to the users tastes.

The 15 % is based on an email exchange with Diane in late 2013 early 2014. Perhaps they have upped their percentage since, but her response to me at the time was unequivocal and she didn't distinguish between different flavors. That said, i have no doubt you are better informed than i am, in this regard.

 

[rdsok]

The 15 % is based on an email exchange with Diane in late 2013 early 2014. Perhaps they have upped their percentage since, but her response to me at the time was unequivocal and she didn't distinguish between different flavors. That said, i have no doubt you are better informed than i am, in this regard.

That timeframe would put it before she revised her filtering techniques for the NET's...

 

[rdsok]

The 15 % is based on an email exchange with Diane in late 2013 early 2014. Perhaps they have upped their percentage since, but her response to me at the time was unequivocal and she didn't distinguish between different flavors. That said, i have no doubt you are better informed than i am, in this regard.

Diane's removed/updated many of her pages since I last went through them... I can only find one that still lists a recommended percentage and it was recommending more than most of the others I can recall... MVJ's Rogue Tobacco - A Touch of Spice DIY Flavor Extract, *DIY Naturally Extracted Tobacco, MyVapeJuice, LLC

Still... at 25% on that example... taken from one of her original NET's... it should be some indication.