Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

[Smocian257]

This.

Also to make sure if the grandfather date is moved up she has all her ducks in order before tommorow i'm sure.

 

[boomerdude]

the uniforms that had to be "just so".......

Getting your knuckle broken by a yardstick for writing with your left hand.

 

[Smocian257]

NET juice's are much gunkier than a non-NET due to the particulates and natural sugars etc... so they gunk much quicker. It varies a lot by juice... but I think 2-5ml is about average before they need cleaned somehow ( dryburn or a rewick etc )... also since most of the wicks are now going with cotton, dry burns are out of the question as well.

You guys need to upgrade your gear, so im finishing up some experiments right now but so far using the smok tfv4 coils (this is tanking the NET not using a dripper) I'm getting above 50 ml per coil , that is still 2 coils a week for a heavy vaper but MILES ahead of my old experiemtns (kanger protank I believe where I too would only get 15-20 ml)

I think its just the surface area difference, I'm comparing homemade diy filterd to 2 micron vs black notes stuff right now and so far about equal (but like I said im still finishing some runs)

I think the sugar theory is wrong too , otherwise we would see a huge gunking difference between different tobacco varieties (so burley and kentucky would be way less gunky than say virginia / maryland) - and we don't see that, I also don't think its the waxes (diterpenoids) simply because of how much of the volume they make up (also they hold lots of our flavor molecules)

hypothesis right now is that its polysacharides (amylose and amylopectin) , i'm going to do a sub micron filter batch with nuclepore membrane paper and see whats what, from talking to others you apparently lose some flavor at or below 0.5 microns but we will see.

 

[checkum]

Getting your knuckle broken by a yardstick for writing with your left hand.

Stop. Oh the humanity!

 

[rdsok]

I think the sugar theory is wrong too , otherwise we would see a huge gunking difference between different tobacco varieties (so burley and kentucky would be way less gunky than say virginia / maryland) - and we don't see that

No one said sugar was the only factor... just that it is one that should be considered as part of it...

 

[checkum]

You guys need to upgrade your gear, so im finishing up some experiments right now but so far using the smok tfv4 coils (this is tanking the NET not using a dripper) I'm getting above 50 ml per coil , that is still 2 coils a week for a heavy vaper but MILES ahead of my old experiemtns (kanger protank I believe where I too would only get 15-20 ml)

I think its just the surface area difference, I'm comparing homemade diy filterd to 2 micron vs black notes stuff right now and so far about equal (but like I said im still finishing some runs)

I think the sugar theory is wrong too , otherwise we would see a huge gunking difference between different tobacco varieties (so burley and kentucky would be way less gunky than say virginia / maryland) - and we don't see that, I also don't think its the waxes (diterpenoids) simply because of how much of the volume they make up (also they hold lots of our flavor molecules)

hypothesis right now is that its polysacharides (amylose and amylopectin) , i'm going to do a sub micron filter batch with nuclepore membrane paper and see whats what, from talking to others you apparently lose some flavor at or below 0.5 microns but we will see.

I always thought the casings where mostly at fault, but what the heck do I know

 

[ST Dog]

You guys need to upgrade your gear, so im finishing up some experiments right now but so far using the smok tfv4 coils (this is tanking the NET not using a dripper) I'm getting above 50 ml per coil , that is still 2 coils a week for a heavy vaper but MILES ahead of my old experiemtns (kanger protank I believe where I too would only get 15-20 ml)

I don't know about those Smok coils, but ...

I've been using a Kanger T3S on a single 18650 mech and with 1.5 Ohm coils (NR-R-NR pre made from FT).
I was getting ~4-5mL with the GeJ liquids I have (I got 15-20mL with BWB tobaccos).

In preparation for a squonk box, I put that same coil in my RBA, and am around 10mL now with no real gunking. No change in flavor.

So my thoughts are that the limited air flow in the T3S contributed greatly to the gunking. And I'm considering that the top (flavor) wicks were part of it too.

 

[Smocian257]

I always thought the casings where mostly at fault, but what the heck do I know

Nah the whole leaf NET's (cured but unprocessed) gunk just the same.

 

[checkum]

check out MOV Vapers article on e liquid

Mountain Oak Vapors E-Cigarette Blog

 

[vjc0628]

I have not been on forum for a while But I just got this email from MOV, I have heard about this deeming, I've seen so many of these emails with calls to action. However none of them plainly spell out what these regulations will mean? I do so far know it will effect mods, How will it effect liquide will it change liquide?

check out MOV Vapers article on e liquid

Mountain Oak Vapors E-Cigarette Blog

 

[clnire]

Does anyone have the link to the Dr Siegel interview from Tuesday? I am on my phone and don't have the link. It might help some people who are not aware of exactly what is going on. ?

 

[clnire]

White Cloud Webinar Coverage - White Cloud

Did I do that right? And it was Monday. Tuesday was other interviews.

 

[vjc0628]

Thank you for video, I will check it out in the morning, On Another note is there anything new and exiting in the NET world, I enjoy Net.com but could use something new and different, I do miss Ahlusion NETs RIP

 

[Frankenmizer]

Thank you for video, I will check it out in the morning, On Another note is there anything new and exiting in the NET world, I enjoy Net.com but could use something new and different, I do miss Ahlusion NETs RIP

Sadly, I don't think Ahlusion ever used NET technique. No tobacco at all, in fact.
You'll find that discussion way, way back in this thread's past. A lot of NETizens were sorely disappointed by Ahlusion.

 

[vjc0628]

Sadly, I don't think Ahlusion ever used NET technique. No tobacco at all, in fact.
You'll find that discussion way, way back in this thread's past. A lot of NETizens were sorely disappointed by Ahlusion.

Wow About Ahlusion

Anything new and good, Was looking at blacknote looks interesting

 

[checkum]

THE HAMMER HAS FALLEN! How sad!!!!

Hello friends.....I hope all is well. Things are not so well for MyVapeJuice.....my credit card processor has just terminated my contract today...nice warning hey...and without credit card processing I am done. So I am fighting but today may be MyVapeJuices last day. They did this because now I am considered a Tobacco manufacturer per the FDA and MC and VISA have strick rules about not allowing tobacco sales online ever. So the battle begins and so far they have the upper hand....but they have not won the war.




Oh I forgot to mention ....if I do 50,000 per month one credit card company will process for me LOL....yeah thanks...that not happening

 

[ST Dog]

They did this because now I am considered a Tobacco manufacturer per the FDA and MC and VISA have strick rules about not allowing tobacco sales online ever. So the battle begins and so far they have the upper hand....but they have not won the war.

So how is it that all the cigar and whole leaf tobacco places get CC processing and accept VISA and MC?

I mean there was never any question about those items being tobacco.

 

[checkum]

So how is it that all the cigar and whole leaf tobacco places get CC processing and accept VISA and MC?

I mean there was never any question about those items being tobacco.

I feel like I'm going to be labeled a moonshiner /extractor possibly one day. I have an Excedrin headache!

 

[boomerdude]

Time for me to invest in several large humidors.

 

[UnclePsyko]

Time for me to invest in several large humidors.

Damn... I recently emptied my humidor
And I was all proud of myself for not having any tobacco in the house.