Thanks! Kayfun (and the clone) is supposed to produce flavors as good as drippers, right? And your first impression about flavor with this clone is OK, but not great?
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Thanks! Kayfun (and the clone) is supposed to produce flavors as good as drippers, right? And your first impression about flavor with this clone is OK, but not great?
Agreed, not worth debating at this time, but definitely important to understand the difference.
No the flavor is certainly great, not just good. Im only saying its not any better than what ive currently been experiencing flavor wise.
It's also big. That mech is in 18650 mode. Kafun on a vamo is a freakin light saber.
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Wow
The contraption on the right, what is the total height and largest diameter? I wonder what would happen if one vapes that at a street corner
8.75" vamo/kayfun
5.5" Bagua/igo-s
3.625" SD mini/a7 mini
lol sorry dusty my tape is SAE
5.5" Bagua/igo-s
3.625" SD mini/a7 mini
lol sorry dusty my tape is SAE
This entire thread---all 20,000+ posts---is dedicated to the difference between synthetic, lab-based, artificial tobacco flavorings and natural tobacco flavorings. Read the thread.
I think that vamo/kayfun combo is more like an "electronic hookah" than an electronic cigarette , LOL
Hey no problems, I enjoyed everything you recommended, except Analog
I don't mind the sweetness but it tastes like Aspartame went wild or something very chemically like that to me. Maybe I hit a bad batch?
I will let it steep little bit more and see. Indeed, it did get better and mellower after 2-3 weeks for me.
Should check out the Goodejuice sub-forum before Monday
Representing, the latest in The TINO Diaries..
TINO stands for "tobacco in name only". Often used as an insult to tobaccos that don't taste like tobacco, but for me it's a term of endearment for a select group of juices that share certain qualities. They are usually bakery/dessert vapes that, while categorized as a tobacco by a vendor, actually taste nothing at all lke tobacco. That is subjective, what's a TINO to me might be described as tasting like tobacco to others, but if I call it a TINO I don't taste anything resembling tobacco without majorly stretching my imagination. My favorite TINO juices are Boba's Bounty, Dorky Stud, Gold, and Bounty Hunter.
Ok, after that lengthy intro, I'd like to present my latest TINO crush, Banyan Tree by TheVapeTree. Many TINOs are very strongly flavored, have hard to peg flavors that people describe differently, are often bakery in nature and often are very sweet. BT fits right in, and like the best TINOs, while I'm not sure exactly what I'm tasting, tobacco is about the last thing that comes to mind. One thing I'm sure of is coconut, which is a dominant flavor here and makes BT a unique entry in TINO land. The rest is bakery notes that are vague enough to make many guesses believable; vanilla, fig, caramel, honey, bread, cake, cookie, maple, chocolate, butterscotch, nougat..... sure, why not. More importantly, it tastes really good.
Banyan Tree is sold in a couple variations such as Cherry and Banana. There's also Banyan Brother, which I guess is different than BT but also uniquely complex. One thing interesting is that TheVapeTree doesn't explicitly state it's a tobacco juice like other vendor's sell a TINO. Instead, the description is much more accurate and really describes all my beloved TINO vapes as " A rich deep flavor that is a real mystery. Maybe bakery, maybe tobacco, this juice was developed for its complexity and uniqueness." For each juice TVT has their logo of a tree with a picture of the flavor; tobacco leaf for tobacco, peach or peach, etc., but for BT the logo is fittingly a "?".
TINO stands for "tobacco in name only". Often used as an insult to tobaccos that don't taste like tobacco, but for me it's a term of endearment for a select group of juices that share certain qualities. They are usually bakery/dessert vapes that, while categorized as a tobacco by a vendor, actually taste nothing at all lke tobacco. That is subjective, what's a TINO to me might be described as tasting like tobacco to others, but if I call it a TINO I don't taste anything resembling tobacco without majorly stretching my imagination. My favorite TINO juices are Boba's Bounty, Dorky Stud, Gold, and Bounty Hunter.
Ok, after that lengthy intro, I'd like to present my latest TINO crush, Banyan Tree by TheVapeTree. Many TINOs are very strongly flavored, have hard to peg flavors that people describe differently, are often bakery in nature and often are very sweet. BT fits right in, and like the best TINOs, while I'm not sure exactly what I'm tasting, tobacco is about the last thing that comes to mind. One thing I'm sure of is coconut, which is a dominant flavor here and makes BT a unique entry in TINO land. The rest is bakery notes that are vague enough to make many guesses believable; vanilla, fig, caramel, honey, bread, cake, cookie, maple, chocolate, butterscotch, nougat..... sure, why not. More importantly, it tastes really good.
Banyan Tree is sold in a couple variations such as Cherry and Banana. There's also Banyan Brother, which I guess is different than BT but also uniquely complex. One thing interesting is that TheVapeTree doesn't explicitly state it's a tobacco juice like other vendor's sell a TINO. Instead, the description is much more accurate and really describes all my beloved TINO vapes as " A rich deep flavor that is a real mystery. Maybe bakery, maybe tobacco, this juice was developed for its complexity and uniqueness." For each juice TVT has their logo of a tree with a picture of the flavor; tobacco leaf for tobacco, peach or peach, etc., but for BT the logo is fittingly a "?".
Should check out the Goodejuice sub-forum before Monday
Thank you Jeff -- Good luck to you
Jerms,
I totally agree with your take on TINOs and your list---BB, Gold, BH. I haven't tried either Dorky Stud or Banyan Tree, but I'll add another to your list: Deadly Sin from GoodLifeVapor, a sterling entry in the long line of bakery/dessert mystery TINOs. I've been having a love affair with Deadly Sin for the past three months with no signs of burn-out yet. I can taste the synthetic tobacco in it, but just barely. Deadly Sin is mostly a herd of different bakery/dessert horses running wild.
Thanks for the recommendation Bill. I recently placed GLF on my list of vendors to try, as I've heard lots of good about them. Haven't looked into what to get yet, so Deadly Sin added. If I remember right, their El Kamino is also highly recommended, have you had that one?
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Yes, I have El Kamino.
I bought four juices from GoodLifeVapor during their Grand Opening Sale in late 2012. I liked two of those a lot---Montecristo Cigar and Sesame Sweetbread (both of which quickly vanished from the GLV juice line-up, but, when I went back to order more two months later and found that neither had made the cut as GLV streamlined its original offerings, GLV's owner was kind enough to mix up an extra bottle of each for me).
As GLV found their sea legs and began to develop a signature juice style that has attracted a growing following, I kept seeing posts about El Kamino, which some folks were calling a Boba's Bounty killer. It's not, by the way. El Kamino is, however, another of those juices that are multi-dimensional and hard to pin down, with an ever-changing flavor profile that reminds some people of Boba's chameleon-like flavor qualities. Also, Boba's sneaks up on some people and takes them by surprise, while El Kamino is so intensely flavored that it doesn't care about surprising anyone.
Anyway, I decided to try El Kamino and added some Deadly Sin to my cart on a whim. I have since bought 50ml bottles of both, although I prefer Deadly Sin. El Kamino is another aggressively-flavored mystery juice. Given your description of Banyon Tree, I think you might cotton to El Kamino in a big way. I like it in small doses; otherwise, it blows out my palate. Deadly Sin, however turned out to be the sleeping beauty of that duo (for me, at least) and has become one of my daily vapes and currently my gold standard for sweet juices. It has enough bakery substance that the dessert sweetness doesn't become cloying (the TINO aspect helps that). I don't seem to tire of it.
Thanks for the info Bill. I'll try several from them, they have good prices and nice sampler options (choice of four 10ml bottles for $20).
Bangkok Dangerous is an awesome name for a juice lol. Woody, nutty tobacco with a very strange herbal note..
Bangkok Dangerous is an awesome name for a juice lol. Woody, nutty tobacco with a very strange herbal note..
i hope this isn't received wrong but bill and jerms, you both just told a guy this is a thread about natural tobacco after he recommended a synthetic; telling him to read the thread. then proceeded to talk about and recommend synthetics .. im not trying to be rude or be the NET police, but its just a little misleading. Im sure they are great cause i value both of your opinions highly, much respect to both of you, just sayin. who knows, maybe im clueless and they are tino-NETS
EDIT: i suppose its different cause he really had no clue between the two. and with all the new MOVs there's bound to be synthetic talk.
EDIT: i suppose its different cause he really had no clue between the two. and with all the new MOVs there's bound to be synthetic talk.
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Neither of us said that synthetic tobacco talk isn't allowed, so kind of confused about your post. I answered the question about the difference between a NET and an arti and Bill mentioned that the answer to the question of "what's the difference" is what this entire thread is about.
I certainly understand what erawk is talking about... but myself I don't completely agree with the assessment.
This thread is certainly about e-juices that the flavor is from naturally extracted tobacco as apposed to synthetic flavors ( arti-bacco ) that just taste something like tobacco. So that's a given here... but when a new person enters the thread and mistakenly posts about a arti-bacco thinking they are contributing to a thread on NET's... I think we need to correct their misunderstanding of the differences. Still... to fully do that you must also cover some details about a synth as well so there is some comparison shown between them.
Myself, I've just recently gotten a synth made by JuiceMafia to do just that... so I can revisit those differences in taste etc. I posted about my early tasting of it and later on... I'll do a follow up after some amount of time passes and the juice has had time to steep. I do all of it for a comparison and not really to promote as much as to help define the differences ( even if done poorly... lol ) ...
From the past discussions on NET's as well as the arti-bacco's... we've seen good and favorable reports in both areas... but I think the reports on the synths are just there to provide a comparison and nothing more.
This thread is certainly about e-juices that the flavor is from naturally extracted tobacco as apposed to synthetic flavors ( arti-bacco ) that just taste something like tobacco. So that's a given here... but when a new person enters the thread and mistakenly posts about a arti-bacco thinking they are contributing to a thread on NET's... I think we need to correct their misunderstanding of the differences. Still... to fully do that you must also cover some details about a synth as well so there is some comparison shown between them.
Myself, I've just recently gotten a synth made by JuiceMafia to do just that... so I can revisit those differences in taste etc. I posted about my early tasting of it and later on... I'll do a follow up after some amount of time passes and the juice has had time to steep. I do all of it for a comparison and not really to promote as much as to help define the differences ( even if done poorly... lol ) ...
From the past discussions on NET's as well as the arti-bacco's... we've seen good and favorable reports in both areas... but I think the reports on the synths are just there to provide a comparison and nothing more.
I think its high time someone started an arti thread. I don't want the job.. but someone ought to.
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