Natural Tobaccos

[Mr.Mann]

GeJ was actually the first group of NET juices I've tried. Since then I've been trying HHV out. I like every tobacco I've tried from there. The tobacco seems to be more of a supporting player in most of their NETs, but Huntsman is straight tobacco. I love that juice.

Huntsman is on point, indeed. The filtration they use IMO takes a great deal of the oomph out of the tobaccos, but somehow manages to retain crazy flavor. I don't know if they do this or not, but their tobacco juices do not seem to be straight tobacco in the least bit. I do know that they say nothing is used in the juices except for tobacco. While that could be technically true, tobaccos can be infused with whatever flavors you like, and then released into the soak while remaining "technically" a straight tobacco juice. Gotta love semantics.

Which GeJs did you get?

Missed the besides HHV part.

No worries.

 

[Lt. Col. Killjoy]

Huntsman is on point, indeed. The filtration they use IMO takes a great deal of the oomph out of the tobaccos, but somehow manages to retain crazy flavor. I don't know if they do this or not, but their tobacco juices do not seem to be straight tobacco in the least bit. I do know that they say nothing is used in the juices except for tobacco. While that could be technically true, tobaccos can be infused with whatever flavors you like, and then released into the soak while remaining "technically" a straight tobacco juice. Gotta love semantics.

Which GeJs did you get?



No worries.

I have JG4, Acadian Gold, Wild Turkey, and Vita Bella. I did a review of AG. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...n/274904-natural-tobaccos-47.html#post7493695

I pick up the same thing in all the juices that I got from AG.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I have JG4, Acadian Gold, Wild Turkey, and Vita Bella. I did a review of AG. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...n/274904-natural-tobaccos-47.html#post7493695

I pick up the same thing in all the juices that I got from AG.

Those are all different tobaccos and I can assure these are "simple" mixtures (meaning there is no secret ingredients that is untold and most either have one or two ingredients). All I can say is that, well, I don't know what to say. Sit on them for as long as you can and maybe one day you will acquire a taste for them. WT and AG are the closest out of the bunch. VB and GJ4 are altogether different, but it is probably just a level of extraction that is what you are tasting that isn't agreeing with you? Anywho, g'nite all.

p.s Which nic did you get?

 

[Lt. Col. Killjoy]

Those are all different tobaccos and I can assure these are "simple" mixtures (meaning there is no secret ingredients that is untold and most either have one or two ingredients). All I can say is that, well, I don't know what to say. Sit on them for as long as you can and maybe one day you will acquire a taste for them. WT and AG are the closest out of the bunch. VB and GJ4 are altogether different, but it is probably just a level of extraction that is what you are tasting that isn't agreeing with you? Anywho, g'nite all.

p.s Which nic did you get?

24mg on all of them.

 

[Mr.Mann]

24mg on all of them.

Okay, so I am awake. If you feel that they won't work for you, I would gladly trade you for HHV.

 

[Lt. Col. Killjoy]

Okay, so I am awake. If you feel that they won't work for you, I would gladly trade you for HHV.

They are all 30ml bottles almost completely full. I'm not sure how sizeable you HHV stash is, but I'll take what I can get. They do me no good sitting in my cabinet.

 

[Tezcatlipoca]

Hehe, "The Eleanor directives" sounds like something from Star Trek (yeah, me = nerd).

I've found that resistance to the Eleanor Directive is futile. You're in good company, sir!

 

[scarf-ace]

Nice, how much liquid DID you add? Mine were 12 grams organic to about 250ml of VG or PG. The tea bags I did were I bag for ~200ml of liquid.
For filtration I've used coffee filter paper, at first, now #325x325 ss mesh currently (will try tighter mesh once I procure)
Tea bag was easiest just remove bag and enjoy flavor

Jan G.

This was about 50mls total volume of liquid. I'm very insouciant about measuring. Not a habit that has served me well.

 

[scarf-ace]

Hehe, "The Eleanor directives" sounds like something from Star Trek (yeah, me = nerd).

Or the title of a Robert Ludlum thriller...

 

[Bronze]

They are all 30ml bottles almost completely full. I'm not sure how sizeable you HHV stash is, but I'll take what I can get. They do me no good sitting in my cabinet.

Mann does raise a good point. Beyond just the steep factor improving your smoke juice, you can also acquire the taste for them. I'm generally reluctant to write off a juice too quickly because I think the steeping and flavor acquisition factors can put a juice in the win column if given the chance. I still have some GeJ here that is more than five weeks old and I will give them another shot over the weekend. They weren't bad when I first tried them but fell a little short. So we'll see how they play out after five weeks.

 

[Victor Vandyke]

Huntsman is on point, indeed. The filtration they use IMO takes a great deal of the oomph out of the tobaccos, but somehow manages to retain crazy flavor. I don't know if they do this or not, but their tobacco juices do not seem to be straight tobacco in the least bit. I do know that they say nothing is used in the juices except for tobacco. While that could be technically true, tobaccos can be infused with whatever flavors you like, and then released into the soak while remaining "technically" a straight tobacco juice. Gotta love semantics.

I haven't seen where HHV says nothing is used in the juices except for tobacco, and can't imagine how that could be accurate based on any of their flavors. I do see them saying simply "[Xxxxxx] is an extracted tobacco" but I don't read that to mean tobacco is necessarily claimed as the only flavoring ingredient. Kind of like saying "A Margarita is alcohol". Sloppy semantics for sure, but not a false claim.

 

[gthompson]

I find it so entertaining to see people come on the forum, and in particular this thread, boldly claiming they "love tobacco juices" (and before anyone takes offense, I was very recently "that guy" myself), and asking for someone to tell them where they could get some "real tobacco flavors". I find it even more entertaining when they say, for example, "you know, like Boba's and Gorilla Juice or Bounty Hunter and Gold". Maybe they had tried (like myself) HHV tobacco, which does qualify as real tobacco, but, as far as tobacco flavor goes, more along the lines of tobacco and not TOBACCO.

And one of the inhabitants of this thread will evilly suggest GeJ or w2v (vapenstein and red pirate oh my!).

In short order they come back quite humbly and say, "Oh dear, that stuff is TOBACCO!".

Why yes, yes it is.

 

[Victor Vandyke]

Mann does raise a good point. Beyond just the steep factor improving your smoke juice, you can also acquire the taste for them. I'm generally reluctant to write off a juice too quickly because I think the steeping and flavor acquisition factors can put a juice in the win column if given the chance. I still have some GeJ here that is more than five weeks old and I will give them another shot over the weekend. They weren't bad when I first tried them but fell a little short. So we'll see how they play out after five weeks.

I can think of many examples in my life where the first few times I tasted something I didn't care for it, but yet it ended up becoming one of my very favorite flavors afterall.

 

[Bronze]

I find it so entertaining to see people come on the forum, and in particular this thread, boldly claiming they "love tobacco juices" (and before anyone takes offense, I was very recently "that guy" myself), and asking for someone to tell them where they could get some "real tobacco flavors". I find it even more entertaining when they say, for example, "you know, like Boba's and Gorilla Juice or Bounty Hunter and Gold". Maybe they had tried (like myself) HHV tobacco, which does qualify as real tobacco, but, as far as tobacco flavor goes, more along the lines of tobacco and not TOBACCO.

And one of the inhabitants of this thread will evilly suggest GeJ or w2v (vapenstein and red pirate oh my!).

In short order they come back quite humbly and say, "Oh dear, that stuff is TOBACCO!".

Why yes, yes it is.

And "TOBACCO" has a wide spectrum of flavors in itself. I prefer the mild ones more than the in-your-face flavors and it seems that can be done even with the "all tobacco" extracts.

 

[Bronze]

I can think of many examples in my life where the first few times I tasted something I didn't care for it, but yet it ended up becoming one of my very favorite flavors afterall.

In my experience, more often than not. The flavors that make up the bulk of my vaping were not enjoyed at first acquaintence.

 

[gthompson]

And "TOBACCO" has a wide spectrum of flavors in itself. I prefer the mild ones more than the in-your-face flavors and it seems that can be done even with the "all tobacco" extracts.

Oh sure. Almost all of my favorites anymore are NETs, even though the majority of them are far from overwhelming tobacco flavors.

 

[gthompson]

In my experience, more often than not. The flavors that make up the bulk of my vaping were not enjoyed at first acquaintence.

That's been my experience also, although I will say, "meh" sometimes becomes "yum", but "nasty" mostly remains "nasty" no matter how many chances I give it.

 

[Bronze]

That's been my experience also, although I will say, "meh" sometimes becomes "yum", but "nasty" mostly remains "nasty" no matter how many chances I give it.

Absolutely! One can almost tell from the first few toots whether a juice has any chance at all or if it is destined for skunk poop status.

 

[Mr.Mann]

That's been my experience also, although I will say, "meh" sometimes becomes "yum", but "nasty" mostly remains "nasty" no matter how many chances I give it.

You are correct! Nasty has never transformed in to tasty.

I haven't seen where HHV says nothing is used in the juices except for tobacco, and can't imagine how that could be accurate based on any of their flavors. I do see them saying simply "[Xxxxxx] is an extracted tobacco" but I don't read that to mean tobacco is necessarily claimed as the only flavoring ingredient. Kind of like saying "A Margarita is alcohol". Sloppy semantics for sure, but not a false claim.

Uh, well, it is not necessarily stated publicly, just as the actual tobaccos used are not written on the website. I don't know if you know my history with HHV and the amount of research and outright nagging (sorry Adam, Heather, Vapenstein, Nick, Wlad, Dave, Andrea, Donnley etc.), but if I make a statement about tobacco juices in that manner (not the one about how they may be pre-infusing the tobaccos) it is not conjecture. All you have to do is ask 1Atom12 what "flavorings" go into his tobacco juices and he will tell you "none". He may not tell you exactly what tobaccos (maybe he will now, but I won't ), but as far as PB, DH, G, H, and DF, all of those are supposed to not be anything other than tobacco (I don't know about the latest additions cause I haven't asked). Now, knowing a good deal of what tobaccos they use, I must say that a lot of what they use are pretty specific to HHV, very exotic, and I have zero familiarity with those strains outside of vaping HHVs Purity Line. It is quite possible that those strains are so obscure that they produce more mysterious flavor that reads contrary to standard blends, but I am not sure.

Let me be perfectly clear: HHVs Purity Line of tobaccos is FANTASTIC for mysterious, alluring, complex, and tasty juices. However, I don't think of them as tobaccos necessarily. Of course, that is my opinion about the resonance of the tobacco, not a statement about whether the juices are tobaccos. Heck, I don't think of GJ4 necessarily as a tobacco (at least for the first 6+ weeks in GJ4, after that, OH YEAH!), but then again, Nick is perfectly forthcoming about the non tobacco flavorings in that specific juice which are mostly what I taste.

 

[gthompson]

I can believe that G, DH, and H are straight tobacco. I struggle to believe that about PB and DF. Extraction wizardry if so.