Aaah.... now that is cool to learn about ( the Paris Smoke connection... being right just happened lol )
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Aaah.... now that is cool to learn about ( the Paris Smoke connection... being right just happened lol )
Jeesh, I thought using the word French was enough hint without actually saying it
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Of course, I only mean that you noticing a connection may or may not be close to what may or may not be in Smoke, and that any specific Vapenstein NET may or may not be similar to what may or may not be an extract relating to said ejuice, which may or may not be correct information. Just to be clear.
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Jeesh, I thought using the word French was enough hint without actually saying it
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There are always times that certain people are just too dense and you have to beat them over the head with it in order that they understand...
Okay, I broke open the " Pure Smoke " and on the first toot I got Parliment. Now it's been probably 50 yrs since I tasted a Parliment but my memory of the taste came right up with this juice. I'm using an A7 and a 1.2 ohm coil. I'm going to flush it with plain 80/20 and try it again.
Kind of medium maybe some Burley, still getting Parliment and maybe Sobraine. This would be a mild Navy-cut if there were ever such a tobacco.
Now this description is coming from someone who tasted beer in Rock Star, so don't go by me.
Kind of medium maybe some Burley, still getting Parliment and maybe Sobraine. This would be a mild Navy-cut if there were ever such a tobacco.
Now this description is coming from someone who tasted beer in Rock Star, so don't go by me.
Back in the old days, if I had to bum a cigarette, the only ones I'd ever turn down were menthols and Parliaments. I don't remember why but something about the taste was very wrong.
My college roommate smoked Parliaments too. (This is way beck when they allowed smoking in dorm rooms.)
I haven't had my Rockstar in forever. Thanks Boomer, for reminding me to dig it out.
I kept some Rockstar and Morley based on the recommendations of them for helping with analog cravings. After tasting again recently I must say I'm doubly glad I haven't needed either in quite a while!
There are always times that certain people are just too dense and you have to beat them over the head with it in order that they understand...
I know, and often times that dense person is me.
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Interesting. Never had smoked a Parliment myself. Definately get a cig feel from the tobacco component though. How did you like the sweetness? That half, the PURE part, I loved and the tobacco plays awesome with it. Was just like a Malty Tobacco for me, if you've ever had Malty from BWB. But a lot stronger spun sugar sweetness.
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Vendor:Halo juice
Liquid:Tribeca
Thoughts:Love the TH and Vape production it has a slight nutty taste. "It's my bar liquid"
Liquid:Tribeca
Thoughts:Love the TH and Vape production it has a slight nutty taste. "It's my bar liquid"
Not a NET, but one of my favorite lab made tobaccos, and favorite RY4.
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When visitors, particularly newbies, visit this thread and ask questions, one or several of us usually try to help them with recommendations. Often an explanation of what NETs are and how they differ from lab juices is required. (Can I say "lab juice' without starting a fight?) Some regular contributors to this thread have done great posts explaining differences and similarities. I've gone back looking for a very good one but can't find it, worded so that we could all agree on the facts stated. If someone has a good one that we can quote or point to in explanations, I'd love to use it in the future to avoid two or three pages of disagreement and flaming over semantics.
Additionally, in the past when someone posted a review, opinion, question, whatever about a lab made juice, it was OK to let them know it wasn't a NET. Why does that cause such an uproar anymore? Sure, TA and TE are "extracted" from tobacco leaves but if we can't differentiate, it becomes a bit challenging to discuss NETs doesn't it?
Additionally, in the past when someone posted a review, opinion, question, whatever about a lab made juice, it was OK to let them know it wasn't a NET. Why does that cause such an uproar anymore? Sure, TA and TE are "extracted" from tobacco leaves but if we can't differentiate, it becomes a bit challenging to discuss NETs doesn't it?
There's nothing wrong with differentiating, but if someone says TA and TE are not NETs, that isn't technically true. Are they what a lot of us typically think of as NETs? Maybe not, but they are "extracted" from tobacco.
I think it's agreed TA is just an ingredient, a super concentrated one at that. A NET that contains TA is still a NET, an artificial tobacco juice that contains TA is still an arti-bacco or lab made. A juice that contains too much TA may be The Best Damn Tobacco, and a juice that contains only TA nobody wants.
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I could see not considering TA an TE NETs since that was a term invented for this forum AFAIK, but it is inaccurate to say TA and TE are not extracted from tobacco, which is what was implied and all I wanted to clarify.
Good point. Nicotine is also extracted from tobacco, but no one considers it a Naturally Extracted Tobacco.
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Just one step away from saying that only certain extraction methods produce "real" NETs. We're dealing with semantics and personal prejudices at that point.
I believe this is the mission statement. I'm not sure how one can exclude TA and TE from that.
Must respectfully disagree GT. For me, the difference between NETs and non-NETs is simple: whether the maker has extracted the tobacco themselves. Anyone can go to DIYShack and buy TA or TE and add it to their juice and presto, they can call it a NET even though they are as far removed from the actual tobacco as they can be. NETs by maceration implies a degree of craftsmanship above merely being a good E-liquid chef (and I'm not badmouthing that at all, God knows it's a skill that is special and rare) that goes to cultivation of the ingredient itself.
Let us not forget also, that tobacco absolute is not, in general, a flavoring: it is primarily a perfumery ingredient and is not distilled primarily for the purposes of consumption. (Hedge words!
) Tobacco that is macerated was always meant for consumption (by smoking or chewing) and therefore tastes closer to our mental, "vision" of what tobacco would taste like. It is no accident that in the hands of a not-too-skilled E-liquid chef, TA tastes like perfume, because it's being used in a much larger quantity than it was meant to be.
Lots of vendors sell NETs they didn't extract themselves, and I'm not talking TA or TE.
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