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All are 6ml bottles.
Shadow
Huntsman
Serendipty
Heavenly tobacco
Dragon Fire
Java Smooth
Bah-In
How did I do? Do you think I will like them? I am prone to tobacco & coffee flavors. Fruits for me are apple, peach, & blackberry. Yes, I know - I need to stretch a bit and expand my favorite flavors -
Lets just say if you don't like them I'll give you my address. LOL.
Sorry I haven't read through all the posts but I'm not seeing anything about WTA?. Or is this the wrong place to post that subject?
I'm not aware of any NETs that also contain WTA. Were you curious about WTA itself or tobacco juices that contain WTA? WTA, like nicotine and TA, are extracted from the plant but is an ingredient rather than a NET. They could add WTA to a NET, and it's a great idea, but noones done it yet. Probably because the extraction of WTA is expensive and done by only a couple vendors.
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Agree again Chimp. A whole different animal that should be used with great respect. Just asking.
I've made several purchases from one vendor. Like always I'm late to the party.. And agree it is more expensive.
From what I've heard it's the equipment needed to extract WTA is expensive. I think vendors that make that big of an investment are more interested in making mass appeal juices to use it in than NETs. But if one has the equipment for WTA and are also interested in making NETs, that would be quite an announcement for this thread.
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If it tastes good...vape it!
Call 'em all NETs and then assign one of the 500 subcategories to it and let's move on. My head is ready to explode. 8-o
Call 'em all NETs and then assign one of the 500 subcategories to it and let's move on. My head is ready to explode. 8-o
I'm not advocating for TA, I don't like the stuff personally, I'm just saying, technically speaking, it is extracted tobacco. If I must say "IMO", then, IMO. *shrug*
I've always thought of TA as a NET...different than a GeJ NET, but still a NET. I was always able to figure out context though. It's like knowing the correct tense (and pronunciation) of the word "read" when it is in context.
I do understand where everyone is coming from. It irritates me to no end when a vendor claims "NET" and they're actually using TA (and there's more than a few of them). They aren't lying necessarily (again IMO), just misrepresenting.
All tobaccos are now NETs? Glad I've found the ones I like! This thread no longer has a subject. No different than "Where can I find a good Chinese juice?"
Exactly. If a vendor sells an artificial tobacco juice with some TA added for ashiness, I'm all for it, but if they try to sell it as a NET it's just plain misleading
I could make a grape eliquid and add some TA for a hint of ashiness, but if I started claiming I was making my own NET it's not going to fly around here.
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How about this for a rough definition: A NET has to contain an ingredient that was extracted from tobacco for the pure purpose of creating a tobacco vape.
That would rule out commercial TA (though commercial TA can still be used as an added ingredient to the NET), but includes vendors that make their own TA like VCV, who are doing the TA extraction purely to use as a tobacco flavor for ejuice.
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That would rule out commercial TA (though commercial TA can still be used as an added ingredient to the NET), but includes vendors that make their own TA like VCV, who are doing the TA extraction purely to use as a tobacco flavor for ejuice.
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Well... It's been a month now since I first ordered from Heather's Heavenly Vapes and while the sample sizes are pre-steeped, I still felt it wise to revisit each one again to see how the additional steep time affected the flavors from when I first tasted them. So in no other particular order other than just picking the ones I felt most curious about...
GT... you may want to skip the rest since you have no interest in what others think about a juice ( couldn't help that one, I'm feeling a but spunky ) Unless you just want a chuckle of course...
Huntsman - In my first taste test I mentioned that this was just a great straight up pipe... Well, it has changed significantly for me... It now has a distinct grassy note which is more towards the brownish-green notes than the brown I had mentioned for Dark Horse before. I'm not sure if I don't like it ( the grassy flavor ) or if it is such a surprising flavor note that it throws me off right now. Don't get me wrong, it doesn't taste bad, just different. I don't notice the earthy/woodsy flavors now... I suspect I'm just focusing on the grassy notes to much to taste them.
I see now that I need to invest in a few more dripping atty's as once again, I'm waiting on the one I have to dry so I can check out another flavor again.
Dark Horse - It seems natural that after I just mentioned it, that I should check this one out again next. The grassy notes I had mentioned before are still there only slightly more brown-green now but not as prominant as I was getting in Huntsman ( rather odd since I didn't taste them in Huntsman at all at first ). Beyond that, the darker tobacco notes are now more present and a touch sweeter even in a tobacco sweet way. I enjoy this change in flavors more than before and now this one sits above Huntsman by just a touch.
Shadow(fax) - I didn't write a lot about this one in my previous mention of it and I wish I had now, as it is I'll have to go more by memory than I normally care for. If I recall, the initial flavor was pretty light, I could taste a creamy sweet note along with a light tobacco exhale but couldn't distinguish it much more than that. This time through, the creamy sweet is reminding me alot of a creme brulee and the tobacco notes are now a bit more present than before. For my own preferences, since I'm not big on desserts... I'd like to see the tobacco take a little more center stage while still staying with the lighter tobacco type that it is... I'd still like the creamy sweet part to stay as present as it already is... just a tad be more tobacco. I'd be quick to recommend this one for most anyone.
Pirate's Booty - What was it with me that first day I reviewed these, again I was rather non-descript on this one, perhaps it was just getting late. Ok, perhaps I'm being to hard on myself now that I've vaped this one again. Truth be told, I'm having a hard time saying what the flavors are that I'm tasting other than a bit dark and sweet with a hint of some type of spice. The tobacco is so well balanced with the other flavors that it's hard to tell which type it is other than to say it is a darker flavored one, logically probably a cigar type but I can't discern that directly. The spice isn't like a cinnamon or a pepper, perhaps its just a attribute of the tobacco that comes off that way. I wish the person that had mentioned it had a taste of rum would have said which type, I'd go buy some in an instant just to see and enjoy it even with me not being a drinker per se. I guess for now I'll just have to woose out a bit and say it's a sweet dark tobacco with a hint of spice... It is certainly one I like alot despite my not being able to adequately describe it. Where is one of those gifted tobacco "cork sniffin'" types when a guy needs them...
Dragon's Fire - I've never had dragon fruit so I can't say if this has that flavor note or not... It is a nice sweet note whatever the source. The tobacco notes I get are a medium dark ones... again the tobacco notes are so well blended in that I have to be paying attention to notice them. There is the typical HHV creamyness to this one that should make it enjoyable for most anyone I would think as long as they didn't find it too sweet. I had mentioned before that if asked between this one and Pirate's Booty, which would be my favorite... my previous answer remains, that it would depend souly on my mood at the time.
I'm going to briefly switch over to the non-NET's I got now, just to get them out of the way for Legend which I did keep for last.
Heavenly Tobacco - My initial impression of this was one of disappointment because I felt it's flavor was weak for a RY4 type. You know how they say if you can't say anything good about something, to not say anything at all... Well, I like the little sample bottle this one came in.... Seriously though, the tobacco notes have gotten a little bit stronger than I recall but overall I still feel the flavor isn't bad but it is a weak one.
Georgia Peach - My thoughts on this haven't changed much because it isn't my typical flavor profiles that I prefer. I do think that the sweetness of the peach in it has come down a notch.
Legend - There is really very little I and add to what others have said or myself about Legend. On this batch, I'm not really getting much if any further change... the cherry notes and creamyness is still the way I recall them. I do wish the tobacco notes were abit more present but that would also make it a different juice.
GT... you may want to skip the rest since you have no interest in what others think about a juice (
couldn't help that one, I'm feeling a but spunky ) Unless you just want a chuckle of course... Huntsman - In my first taste test I mentioned that this was just a great straight up pipe... Well, it has changed significantly for me... It now has a distinct grassy note which is more towards the brownish-green notes than the brown I had mentioned for Dark Horse before. I'm not sure if I don't like it ( the grassy flavor ) or if it is such a surprising flavor note that it throws me off right now. Don't get me wrong, it doesn't taste bad, just different. I don't notice the earthy/woodsy flavors now... I suspect I'm just focusing on the grassy notes to much to taste them.
I see now that I need to invest in a few more dripping atty's as once again, I'm waiting on the one I have to dry so I can check out another flavor again.
Dark Horse - It seems natural that after I just mentioned it, that I should check this one out again next. The grassy notes I had mentioned before are still there only slightly more brown-green now but not as prominant as I was getting in Huntsman ( rather odd since I didn't taste them in Huntsman at all at first ). Beyond that, the darker tobacco notes are now more present and a touch sweeter even in a tobacco sweet way. I enjoy this change in flavors more than before and now this one sits above Huntsman by just a touch.
Shadow(fax) - I didn't write a lot about this one in my previous mention of it and I wish I had now, as it is I'll have to go more by memory than I normally care for. If I recall, the initial flavor was pretty light, I could taste a creamy sweet note along with a light tobacco exhale but couldn't distinguish it much more than that. This time through, the creamy sweet is reminding me alot of a creme brulee and the tobacco notes are now a bit more present than before. For my own preferences, since I'm not big on desserts... I'd like to see the tobacco take a little more center stage while still staying with the lighter tobacco type that it is... I'd still like the creamy sweet part to stay as present as it already is... just a tad be more tobacco. I'd be quick to recommend this one for most anyone.
Pirate's Booty - What was it with me that first day I reviewed these, again I was rather non-descript on this one, perhaps it was just getting late. Ok, perhaps I'm being to hard on myself now that I've vaped this one again. Truth be told, I'm having a hard time saying what the flavors are that I'm tasting other than a bit dark and sweet with a hint of some type of spice. The tobacco is so well balanced with the other flavors that it's hard to tell which type it is other than to say it is a darker flavored one, logically probably a cigar type but I can't discern that directly. The spice isn't like a cinnamon or a pepper, perhaps its just a attribute of the tobacco that comes off that way. I wish the person that had mentioned it had a taste of rum would have said which type, I'd go buy some in an instant just to see and enjoy it even with me not being a drinker per se. I guess for now I'll just have to woose out a bit and say it's a sweet dark tobacco with a hint of spice... It is certainly one I like alot despite my not being able to adequately describe it. Where is one of those gifted tobacco "cork sniffin'" types when a guy needs them...
Dragon's Fire - I've never had dragon fruit so I can't say if this has that flavor note or not... It is a nice sweet note whatever the source. The tobacco notes I get are a medium dark ones... again the tobacco notes are so well blended in that I have to be paying attention to notice them. There is the typical HHV creamyness to this one that should make it enjoyable for most anyone I would think as long as they didn't find it too sweet. I had mentioned before that if asked between this one and Pirate's Booty, which would be my favorite... my previous answer remains, that it would depend souly on my mood at the time.
I'm going to briefly switch over to the non-NET's I got now, just to get them out of the way for Legend which I did keep for last.
Heavenly Tobacco - My initial impression of this was one of disappointment because I felt it's flavor was weak for a RY4 type. You know how they say if you can't say anything good about something, to not say anything at all... Well, I like the little sample bottle this one came in...
. Seriously though, the tobacco notes have gotten a little bit stronger than I recall but overall I still feel the flavor isn't bad but it is a weak one.Georgia Peach - My thoughts on this haven't changed much because it isn't my typical flavor profiles that I prefer. I do think that the sweetness of the peach in it has come down a notch.
Legend - There is really very little I and add to what others have said or myself about Legend. On this batch, I'm not really getting much if any further change... the cherry notes and creamyness is still the way I recall them. I do wish the tobacco notes were abit more present but that would also make it a different juice.
Sorry to post again about this topic but I'm curious, is there any artificial tobaccos with TA that people really want considered a NET in this thread? Or any NETs that also contain TA that people don't want to be consider a NET? I guess I'm confused as to why some consider TA a NET instead of just an ingredient that goes with extracted or artificial tobacco, when there isn't even a juice released that only contains commercial TA.
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