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shatner

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Shatner, your scarfy vape mail was shipped out from So Cal today.

JERMS - your epic juice mail was also mailed out today.

Peace to all and, yes...FREE HIM

Thanks!


Honestly, with there not being any good juice makers around here, if this BS really does happen I fear my only real option will be to quit. I'm not DIYing and I'm sure as hell not being forced to use RBAs. Oh well.
 

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So the NET/non-NET mystery has been solved. After asking for clarification, the vendor replied, "We synthesize the tobacco in a lab from real tobacco. So it's a pure tobacco." I wonder why he didn't tell me it was extracted in the first place. When he says "synthesize," in my head he's in a lab doing the process to "Axel F."
 

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The bane of living in Australia. The only thing I can see on Smartvapes that I could do with right now are those atty's that Shatner mentioned. I can't justify the postage just to order some atty's. I usually need to get a decent little supply from any vendor to justify the postage.

Thanks. This is the last time I will see someone post about these attys without me ordering. Thanks, Shatner.
 

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I have enough liquid to keep me going for 3 years subject to it not going off. I think it doesn't matter how much liquid a user has or how long it will last them, if such a ban happened our entire vaping lives would be changed. Could you imagine running out of your last vestiges of Ahlusion, GEJ, NET.com and Want2Vape? I would be shattered.

I think vaping has taken a stronghold now with the amount of people vaping and I am sure we will find a way, including vendors.

In Australia, we are legally not supposed to be ordering nicotine products but we still do it.

If by chance we end up having to circumvent online sells for eliquid, does everyone here have a plan for getting theirs? Any new DIY converts? Or, if you have no plan for circumventing the ban (if enacted) and you have no DIY desires, how long will your current stash hold you (not talking to you, Shatner. LOL)

FDA Discusses Banning Online Sales of E-Cigarettes - WSJ.com
 

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I think DIY is the real savior and insurance against FDA bans but what about nicotine levels? DIY usually only produces 2-3 mg of nicotine so it's essential to mix with nicotine to get the desired levels. Won't any proposed ban put nicotine out of reach?

From what I read, it looks like they are looking to ban devices, not juice. However, my wife is already doing the DIY thing, and I am ordering the extracts from Clay. I cannot wait till he has the single leaf extractions available, and I will be buying them. If/when that runs out, I guess I will have to extract my own. As far as devices are concerned, both my wife and I have mechanical REOs, and we will be ordering another one soon. We already have the repair kits for them, just in case. We are both using the RM2 RBA with cotton, so no problem there either. Basically, we are all set for when our wonderful politicians decide they want to grease their palms some more. As has been stated elsewhere, the only ones this will affect will be the small Internet businesses.
 

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FREE GT!! . . . Oh wait, nevermind . . .:blush::p


Vapemail came yesterday! {BJ close your eyes!}

I got a few bottles from QnJ, including a 15ml of Banana Cream to "banana-up" the 30ml of Proudest Monkey . . . using about 1 part Banana Cream to 5 parts PM, and YUMMO!!! :banana::banana::banana::banana:






{OK BJ, you can open your eyes now. :) :D}

Just some insight into Banana Montana - this one needs NO banana-ing up. :thumb:
 

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I think DIY is the real savior and insurance against FDA bans but what about nicotine levels? DIY usually only produces 2-3 mg of nicotine so it's essential to mix with nicotine to get the desired levels. Won't any proposed ban put nicotine out of reach?

Maybe, but once you're stocked on that, you're stocked.
 

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If by chance we end up having to circumvent online sells for eliquid, does everyone here have a plan for getting theirs? Any new DIY converts? Or, if you have no plan for circumventing the ban (if enacted) and you have no DIY desires, how long will your current stash hold you (not talking to you, Shatner. LOL)

FDA Discusses Banning Online Sales of E-Cigarettes - WSJ.com

I already started on the vape apocalypse stockpiling bandwagon....and I will keep going down that road.

My current stash is modest, about 300-350 mls (EDIT ~ about 500 mls) of decent stuff and about 100 mls of "only if I have to" juices. But, I plan on ordering more wholecig next month (a decent order) and I've started buying concentrates. I have NO idea what I am doing, though. I want to combine WTA with nicotine base and don't understand what is safe there. I will learn as I go.

I'm afraid with upcoming meeting we will see a frenzy, even if minor, and see a shortage.
 
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Is the banana in the forefront like the apple in Apple Cured? Or is tobacco the main star?

The banana is in the forefront on it, and the tobacco is something new - I can't place it. I think Nick would divulge some info on it if you emailed him. I think it's from that mom and pop shop that they discovered in Montana?

And the new secret one? It's cocoa mint tobacco, and it's flippin' good!
 
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I already started on the vape apocalypse stockpiling bandwagon....and I will keep going down that road.

My current stash is modest, about 300-350 mls of decent stuff and about 100 mls of "only if I have to" juices. But, I plan on ordering more wholecig next month (a decent order) and I've started buying concentrates. I have NO idea what I am doing, though. I want to combine WTA with nicotine base and don't understand what is safe there. I will learn as I go.

I'm afraid with upcoming meeting we will see a frenzy, even if minor, and see a shortage.

Ha...the "vapeocalypse"...
 

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I wonder how the FDA is going to provide a loophole for BT so they can keep selling their NJoy's and such. With the money BT is putting into ecigs there's no way they'll let the Feds get away with a complete ban. Maybe licensing that would cost way beyond what the little guys can pay. The FDA says there's not enough research proving that ecigs are safe. Well, there's none saying they're unsafe. So why ban them? I just cannot understand the mindset of people who want to have a say into every little detail of other folks daily lives. I do know that they'll keep doing it until we get off our butts and say ENOUGH!
 

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I wonder how the FDA is going to provide a loophole for BT so they can keep selling their NJoy's and such. With the money BT is putting into ecigs there's no way they'll let the Feds get away with a complete ban. Maybe licensing that would cost way beyond what the little guys can pay. The FDA says there's not enough research proving that ecigs are safe. Well, there's none saying they're unsafe. So why ban them? I just cannot understand the mindset of people who want to have a say into every little detail of other folks daily lives. I do know that they'll keep doing it until we get off our butts and say ENOUGH!
Triple Like!!! Unfortunately, more people seem to be more inclined to want a nanny society than to stand up and take on personal responsibility!
 
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If by chance we end up having to circumvent online sells for eliquid, does everyone here have a plan for getting theirs? Any new DIY converts? Or, if you have no plan for circumventing the ban (if enacted) and you have no DIY desires, how long will your current stash hold you (not talking to you, Shatner. LOL)

FDA Discusses Banning Online Sales of E-Cigarettes - WSJ.com

stash will hold for a while... i just counted and have just over 3000ml of "good" liquids and about another 1000ml of "Yea I can do that but, not all day" (not counting the "they made THAT a flavor???" ones but, will keep them for bartering ;) )... and am just under 3 ml a day...

yea. so 3 years. :blush:

I suck at diy so, that isnt an option.

I am more concerned about my favorites though so... there will be some purchases...





Oh and hey all. been a while. :)
 
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