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In my opinion it's not. Get a house of vapor Stingray for 40% of the cost. Or an Empire mods. Or a Smartvapes dripping atty.

The only thing the HH357 has over the others I listed is if you prefer a fast, hard draw. Otherwise it produce par, maybe even sub par vapor compared to what I listed. I've had through 4 of them. 2 popped within the first 3 days, one I got sick of and one I still have, unwrapped.

Save your money. If you and a 20 something dollar atty, get an nice rda. Of course, YMMV and all the other disclaimers.

Thanks, Shatner. I have a Vicious Ant bottom feed Cyclone on order to go with my new Gepetto. I'll check into the Stingray as soon as the 357 goes south.
 

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I want an MVP.. the new V2 maybe. Never used a box shaped mod.



If you like Vecchio but wished it had more tobacco.. you'll LOVE Vurley. I have Honey Cured that I'll be starting on shortly. Not sure how I'll like it; like Big Juicy the honey vapes can be a hard sell to me. I do like Gold Rising though (and Honey-Fig from TPR).

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I have Vurley, Smokin' Cherries, and of course, Blue Grass Burley.

Vurley is indeed quite good.

Smokin' Cherries needs more cherry, but I went into that one blind so I'll ask Wlad to make the cherry side pop a bit more next order.
 

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I thought they were fully warrantied for 30 or 60 days, and after that they would be fixed for a small fee. That must have changed or I may be wrong, like Mann said YCY should have the facts straight for that. I only have one, that still works, so never tried it myself.

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I have four - two regular and two customs. Still on my first regular. It's been a real trooper and I learned dripping on it, so I have a soft spot for it.

But when Shatner speaks, I listen, so lesson learned - I read up as much as I could and the 357 seemed to be the way to go at the time.
 

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Since a few of you mentioned the iTaste MVP 2, here's my review. Short version: it's one of the best deals in vaping today. Long version here.


Nice review. You forgot about the MVP 1.5 with Ego threading :) But that's okay. I was sort of hoping for a contest at the end :p

Oh, and I love the Metallic blue finish on my MVP 1.5. It's more gray, but I love the texture.
 

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Nice review. You forgot about the MVP 1.5 with Ego threading :) But that's okay. I was sort of hoping for a contest at the end :p

Oh, and I love the Metallic blue finish on my MVP 1.5. It's more gray, but I love the texture.

I didn't forget. I just don't have one to compare it to. :p

That revision is funny. I remember someone on ECF blasting me, saying that the MVP 1.5 wasn't real. I told her that's what Innokin emailed me and I don't see a reason for the company lying about it. She insisted, for several posts, that I was making it up. I'm not sure why anyone would do that. Good times.
 

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Apache is next. It smells like ear medicine I had when I was a child :evil:

Hopefully it vapes better :)

How is the Apache? I hear a lot about this juice, and want to try some. What's the take on coil gunking? Heard is can be quite harsh.

But one thing is for sure, will definitely be getting more Black Cavendish & 3-Crown from NETCOM.
 

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Apache is next. It smells like ear medicine I had when I was a child :evil:

Hopefully it vapes better :)

The smell of the juice always seems to be very important to me. I don't really understand why, but in my case it usually translates into the flavor as well. Before I decide what to vape at a given time, I usually take a whiff at the juice bottles and choose the one that smells more appealing. I think that's a major difference between smoking a cig and vaping. When I vape I like inhaling and exhaling through my nose, something I would never do with a cigarette. So the scent/fragrance plays a huge part in how much I enjoy the juice.

I've noticed some straight up NETs don't smell much and are mostly all about the flavor. When I vape them I normally do it like a cig, since the smell isn't very pleasant unless it's heavily flavored. For example, I found Gold from NET.com to be the best analog-like juice I've ever tried. It's probably exactly what I was looking for when I first started vaping. But at this point I like their Coventry much more because of its "aromatic" qualities.
 

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Apache -- Mountain Oak Vapers.

As already mentioned, the odor from the bottle reminded me of medicine I had to endure chronically as a child, but I vaped it anyway.

Vaping Apache in my Phoenix v4 with a 1.2 ohm micro-coil on a K100 mech mod. 28g kanthal with Ekowool wick.

The medicine taste is there, but it's tamed by a leather tongue and kerosene cinder block of charred oak (?) or hickory. It is not lacking in flavor and is definitely harsh, yet it is strangely vapable. Not for a prolonged duration, but through stressful times. Sort of brings to mind INDUSTRY with fumes and flames and molten metal, machinery pounding and grinding, sparks flying around you. Vivid, unrelenting and strong.

Tons of vapor from a higher PG base with a decent throat hit. I was expecting more of a kick to the chest/throat but have more of a gasoline burn.

Apache is one for the experienced, or one who enjoys a strong, industrial-strength vape.
 

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Apache -- Mountain Oak Vapers.

As already mentioned, the odor from the bottle reminded me of medicine I had to endure chronically as a child, but I vaped it anyway.

Vaping Apache in my Phoenix v4 with a 1.2 ohm micro-coil on a K100 mech mod. 28g kanthal with Ekowool wick.

The medicine taste is there, but it's tamed by a leather tongue and kerosene cinder block of charred oak (?) or hickory. It is not lacking in flavor and is definitely harsh, yet it is strangely vapable. Not for a prolonged duration, but through stressful times. Sort of brings to mind INDUSTRY with fumes and flames and molten metal, machinery pounding and grinding, sparks flying around you. Vivid, unrelenting and strong.

Tons of vapor from a higher PG base with a decent throat hit. I was expecting more of a kick to the chest/throat but have more of a gasoline burn.

Apache is one for the experienced, or one who enjoys a strong, industrial-strength vape.

Call me industrial, or industrious. LOL
 

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I have Vurley, Smokin' Cherries, and of course, Blue Grass Burley.

Vurley is indeed quite good.

Smokin' Cherries needs more cherry, but I went into that one blind so I'll ask Wlad to make the cherry side pop a bit more next order.

Say it ain't so! More cherry? It needs more what? :laugh: Yeah, he should be able to accommodate.
 

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Apache -- Mountain Oak Vapers.

As already mentioned, the odor from the bottle reminded me of medicine I had to endure chronically as a child, but I vaped it anyway.

Vaping Apache in my Phoenix v4 with a 1.2 ohm micro-coil on a K100 mech mod. 28g kanthal with Ekowool wick.

The medicine taste is there, but it's tamed by a leather tongue and kerosene cinder block of charred oak (?) or hickory. It is not lacking in flavor and is definitely harsh, yet it is strangely vapable. Not for a prolonged duration, but through stressful times. Sort of brings to mind INDUSTRY with fumes and flames and molten metal, machinery pounding and grinding, sparks flying around you. Vivid, unrelenting and strong.

Tons of vapor from a higher PG base with a decent throat hit. I was expecting more of a kick to the chest/throat but have more of a gasoline burn.

Apache is one for the experienced, or one who enjoys a strong, industrial-strength vape.

Great write-up. I love your descriptions.


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...The medicine taste is there, but it's tamed by a leather tongue and kerosene cinder block of charred oak (?) or hickory. It is not lacking in flavor and is definitely harsh, yet it is strangely vapable. Not for a prolonged duration, but through stressful times. Sort of brings to mind INDUSTRY with fumes and flames and molten metal, machinery pounding and grinding, sparks flying around you. Vivid, unrelenting and strong. Tons of vapor from a higher PG base with a decent throat hit. I was expecting more of a kick to the chest/throat but have more of a gasoline burn.
Apache is one for the experienced, or one who enjoys a strong, industrial-strength vape.

Probably needs a lot of steeping time. I need something to help cope with my Mother's death.
But man ...your description of Apache sounds like it should be used as fuel treatment in a car. :ohmy:
 

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Probably needs a lot of steeping time. I need something to help cope with my Mother's death.
But man ...your description of Apache sounds like it should be used as fuel treatment in a car. :ohmy:

It's actually quite... masculine, I suppose. I'm actually thinking it might be good to alternate as my daily bookend with Huntsman. Both conjure up images to the front of my mind and palette. And it's far better than MOV's synthetic base, which is still strange... I've vaping GOLD now, which is suppose to be honey over the TNO base, but it's just coming off as pollen.
 

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It's actually quite... masculine, I suppose. I'm actually thinking it might be good to alternate as my daily bookend with Huntsman. Both conjure up images to the front of my mind and palette. And it's far better than MOV's synthetic base, which is still strange... I've vaping GOLD now, which is suppose to be honey over the TNO base, but it's just coming off as pollen.

As bold as Apache is, one thing surprised me is that it actually works well for me for long sessions. With the very similar Devil Dog and London, I took on just small journeys. Apache I tried to vape all day to review, and happily vaped it into the next day as well. The smokiness was adjusted to, and the very light smooth sweetness from MOV just carried it. I REALLY found out how much I like it from a long session, and it's a flavor that doesn't start to mute on the palatte after a bit.

Gold... meh, I didn't hate it, but after a several ml I was done with it. TNO I think I liked better than you did; not amazing but what I'd consider an above average synthetic. Black Forest was the winner of the arti-baccos, really hope it works for you. It's kind of odd, but in good ways.

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It's actually quite... masculine, I suppose.

If you think that's masculine then you should try Ahlusion Devil Dog! That juice punched me a few times.

As bold as Apache is, one thing surprised me is that it actually works well for me for long sessions. With the very similar Devil Dog and London, I took on just small journeys. Apache I tried to vape all day to review, and happily vaped it into the next day as well. The smokiness was adjusted to, and the very light smooth sweetness from MOV just carried it. I REALLY found out how much I like it from a long session, and it's a flavor that doesn't start to mute on the palatte after a bit.

Totally with you on Apache. Like you, I can enjoy Devil Dog! and London in short bursts. Apache can be an all-day vape for me.
 

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As bold as Apache is, one thing surprised me is that it actually works well for me for long sessions. With the very similar Devil Dog and London, I took on just small journeys. Apache I tried to vape all day to review, and happily vaped it into the next day as well. The smokiness was adjusted to, and the very light smooth sweetness from MOV just carried it. I REALLY found out how much I like it from a long session, and it's a flavor that doesn't start to mute on the palatte after a bit.

Gold... meh, I didn't hate it, but after a several ml I was done with it. TNO I think I liked better than you did; not amazing but what I'd consider an above average synthetic. Black Forest was the winner of the arti-baccos, really hope it works for you. It's kind of odd, but in good ways.

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Yessir! It's a keeper. Even though I like anise (I loved black jelly beans and licorice growing up, fennel cakes and Italian foods), I never thought I could vape it. I like cinnamon, but I can't vape it for very long without it closing my throat :) But anise seems to be less harsh than cinnamon. The citrus/bergamot is way in the back on this one with the anise up front and makes it quite enjoyable.

Overall, thanks Jerms for the MOV experience! Very worthwhile. Looking forward to grabbing Pendragon and Sunday Morning someday soon. plus more Black Forest, Apache and Hey Jack.
 
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