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After changing my cart 3 times, I decided on 555, House Blend, and Wrangler Light. I already have my next cart lined up with Patriot, Vita Bella, and Commercial.

Let us know, here or in the Goodejuice forum, what you think of the non-NETs. I'm interested in how they are.

The Lab Made ones are fantastic, and I want to some day try the other ones out.
 

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Another way to look at it, NETs are the actual fruit, synthetic tobaccos are the fruit flavored candy. No real fruit needs to be involved in making a green apple jolly rancher, no tobacco needs to be involved making an arti-bacco. Just like somebody might love green apple ranchers and hate eating green apples, some love synthetic Turkish and hate the flavor of a Turkish vape made with Turkish tobacco.

Alongside any similarities, there is very noticable differences in flavor, feel, and performance. Some synthetic/chemically made flavors can get surprisingly close to the real thing. Not so much yet with tobacco, it's pretty easy to spot an arti-bacco, and NETs are way closer to the real flavor of tobacco.

I actually have more respect or arti-baccos after vaping NETs for a while. They have their own unique and enjoyable flavor, and while maybe not tasting much like real tobacco they have their own charms, and work for me when wanting a tobacco experience (just not the TRUE tobacco experience of NET). They also vape much cleaner than NETs.

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That's weird because that exact green apple candy / real green apples analogy had been rolling around in my head for a few days now, trying to come up with a way to make a similar point.

Many of the chemicals used in artificial tobacco flavors are nature indentical to those found in real tobacco, but they are selected for specific desirable flavor notes, rather than the whole spectrum...I would think artificial fruit flavors are like that too. That's why I wish there were more hybrid tobacco flavors, where the real tobacco is enhanced with nature identical tobacco components (flavors or flavor notes) to enhance the overall tobacco taste. If cherry and vanilla and cocoa and whatever is acceptable to smooth and enhance tobacco, then why not nature identical components? They do this with commercial tobacco all the time, and in a big way, so why no engineered e-juices? It's just a matter of diluting the artificial flavors enough to be under the natural flavors, but strong enough to push the desired notes. Maybe it is done, but Turkish is where it really almost needs to be done....Turkish tobacco doesn't even taste like Turkish tobacco when smoked by itself because it burns too cool to develop it's full flavor.
 

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This is exciting news Big Juicy. I think the main question on most people's minds about Natural-Extracted-Tobacco was whether it was going to compare in anyway to the established big name vendors. It sure is exciting and reassuring to know that early reviews are pegging the liquids in such a positive light.

I left no liquid unturned at N-E-T.com. I ordered all of them in both heat extracted and cold mac (most in the sampler sizes) and a few larger bottles of the recommended and signature blends.

Can't wait to get my order! Being in Australia, I imagine my order will arrive well after everyone else.

So sayeth the self-proclaimed "Ambassador of Vape" and so it shall be.

Makes me glad I got into this N-E-T Coventry. I have been chain vaping Ahlusion W&A Sassy for 3 days straight...but this Coventry is most outstanding. I have 5 full tanks of different NET's on my desk right now and I haven't touched anything else all morning. This stuff is GLORIOUS.
 

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I preferred all the tobacco range from Alien Visions over Boba's and Gorilla's. I like Gamel, Havana Gold and Blend 4 and still have ample quantities of them. I think I better start hitting those bottles before they go off which I am sure will happen in the next 12 months.

There bb and gj are good juices but to be honest with ya I like Havana gold and flue cured better by them...
 

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Glad you are enjoying that V4 and managed to give it a satisfactory build, Jef.

I haven't touched the V5-V8 as yet in the co-op order I got for the V4-V8. All the atomizers are pre-installed so I wanted to use one at a time. I started at the V4 and I have enjoyed it so much I haven't moved onto the next one. What I like about the V4 is that even though it's a small dripper I find I can bring to work and not get leakage. I am reluctant to take an Igo-L to work or out and about because it can tend to look and it doesn't look so good on an ego twist. The V4 looks great on an Ego. Very suitable indeed.

I've run a few juices through my V4 since I started using it. I've used QnJ's fire cured and Turkish, then I moved onto Vita Bella. I don't know if it was the V4 or just some good steeping, but I got my first real glimpse of what everyone is talking about regarding Vita Bella's wonderful flavour. Now I am running Vapist Vapour's 3 NETS alternating between them. I don't know if I am just vaping wonderful juices or the V4 is performing really well but I have enjoyed everything I've vaped in it.

Okay, so I did my first build for the Phoenix V4. Wrapping the wire is more difficult than it looked. I still don't have an ohm meter or any sort, so I am winging the resistance. I ended up with eight wraps on the 3mm Ekowool silica. How do you keep the silica from unraveling?

On my second attempt (didn't have enough wick or wire the first time, and I was concerned about going sub-ohm), I threw it on the MVP to check for shorts and hot spots. Had to even the wire out on the bottom since it was a little close in some spots. Got it sorted, nice even glow from the inside out, no shorts (MVP does have a short protection circuit and cuts off when indicated, so that's something).

Now the RDA hits like a champ! Huge TH, tons more vapor and the flavor is spot on.

And I didn't blow my head off :ohmy:

Also, someone PIF'd me some 18mg elquids, so that should help with the nic sickness ;) Hopefully something I can mix and match.

Heavenly Army is kicking the flavor, warmth and vapor is unreal with that tiny hole. 50/50 mix with HHV is just dang perfect! Dragon's Fire will rock on this build!
 

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Glad you are enjoying that V4 and managed to give it a satisfactory build, Jef.

I haven't touched the V5-V8 as yet in the co-op order I got for the V4-V8. All the atomizers are pre-installed so I wanted to use one at a time. I started at the V4 and I have enjoyed it so much I haven't moved onto the next one. What I like about the V4 is that even though it's a small dripper I find I can bring to work and not get leakage. I am reluctant to take an Igo-L to work or out and about because it can tend to look and it doesn't look so good on an ego twist. The V4 looks great on an Ego. Very suitable indeed.

I've run a few juices through my V4 since I started using it. I've used QnJ's fire cured and Turkish, then I moved onto Vita Bella. I don't know if it was the V4 or just some good steeping, but I got my first real glimpse of what everyone is talking about regarding Vita Bella's wonderful flavour. Now I am running Vapist Vapour's 3 NETS alternating between them. I don't know if I am just vaping wonderful juices or the V4 is performing really well but I have enjoyed everything I've vaped in it.

I know what you mean.

I can't wait to try the Goodejuice NETs on my own coil build -- it hits like a freight train and vapes like a beast :) And I've only run Shadow and Heavenly Army through it tonight. I wanted to change out all of my iclear coils simultaneously, so I had to empty the iclear30 of the Shadow into a needle bottle and wanting to empty that. Haven't yet, since I was getting a headache from chain-vaping it off the V4.

Anyone know the difference between the Smoktech RDA and the Phoenix V4. Is the Phoenix V4 like the SmokTech RDA or Mini-RDA?
 

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The Smoktech mini-RDA is the same as the V4, an ERA clone. Smoktech's has thumb-screws, but looks and works the same. The original Smoktech RDA (aka The Octopus) is quite a bit bigger. The airflow is different too, comes in from a side airhole that's in between the 2 o-rings and is directed upward to a hole in the base that aims at the coil from below. I've retired mine, any juice on the base goes into the airhole causing gurgling and leaking.

I have one coming from FastTech that has a screw on top cap. The airflow looks the same as the original RDA, but there's a tube at the base that's raised up so juice wouldn't get in their as easily. That was the one fix that would have made the RDA workable for me so I hope it's a winner. Not sure if it's regular size or mini, hoping for mini.

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The Smoktech mini-RDA is the same as the V4, an ERA clone. Smoktech's has thumb-screws, but looks and works the same. The original Smoktech RDA (aka The Octopus) is quite a bit bigger. The airflow is different too, comes in from a side airhole that's in between the 2 o-rings and is directed upward to a hole in the base that aims at the coil from below. I've retired mine, any juice on the base goes into the airhole causing gurgling and leaking.

I have one coming from FastTech that has a screw on top cap. The airflow looks the same as the original RDA, but there's a tube at the base that's raised up so juice wouldn't get in their as easily. That was the one fix that would have made the RDA workable for me so I hope it's a winner. Not sure if it's regular size or mini, hoping for mini.

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Perfect. Thanks for the info. Is there a RDA/RBA or clone you haven't tried? :p
 

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You seriously gonna try those? I would try Gold Member first, because those might permanently turn you off to a salty vape.

Yeah, I ordered them last week from Fasttech for a gag review, along with some Hangsen RY4 and a Diablo TVS clone. I think it's going to be funny in a "I'm going to vape these so you don't have to!" way. I wanted to order Gold Member today, but missed the cutoff. Sadly, Ahlusion might be down for the next two days because of a store opening. Am cry!

Another way to look at it, NETs are the actual fruit, synthetic tobaccos are the fruit flavored candy. No real fruit needs to be involved in making a green apple jolly rancher, no tobacco needs to be involved making an arti-bacco. Just like somebody might love green apple ranchers and hate eating green apples, some love synthetic Turkish and hate the flavor of a Turkish vape made with Turkish tobacco.

In one of my conversations with Mr. Mann, I equated it with Mexican food and Taco Bell. I love both, just like there are NET and TINO liquids that I love. NETs are real Mexican food, like from an authentic taqueria or a SoCal taco truck. TINOs are Taco Bell, which is a yummy approximation of Mexican food.

My local vape friends often call me a tobacco snob, but that's not really true. I enjoy quality NETs and TINOs. For that matter, I enjoy juices of all varieties that are made well. I don't enjoy mediocre NETs and TINOs. One mistake those new to NETs sometimes make is assuming that NETs are automatically better. Of course that's subjective and while many of us find that to be generally true, it's not always. For example, I'm an RY4 fan. While I love GJ4 and FVF, my # RY4 is still Janty DK, a synthetic.

Damn it. Now I want to eat Taco Bell. Brb.
 

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Perfect. Thanks for the info. Is there a RDA/RBA or clone you haven't tried? :p

Haha, yes quite a few I haven't tried, but I do have a good chunk of the cheap, small drippers available. I have 11, soon to be 13. A year or so ago the cheapest dripper was around $80, now they can be found for less than a Big Mac.

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I'm with ya Ray. I like a variety of juices, as long as they are well made and represent the top of their category. So basically, my category of vape I prefer is.. good juices. NETs just happen to attract me the most at this time, but they are far from all I vape.

My favorite RY4s are synthetic too. GJ4 from GoodeJuice is my favorite NET RY4, but I like Halo's Tribeca and Janty's Classic RY4 more.

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...Ahlusion might be down for the next two days because of a store opening. Am cry!

NOOOOO... I was going to order from them tomorrow, bright and early. I am at the last drop of Mango Lassi and must have.


Speaking of Ahlusion, I have a 15ml amber bottle of Honey Cured that is too honey for me, if anyone wants it, let me know. It has approximately 2-3 mls missing. Ordered about 3 weeks ago. 50/50 base, 12 mg nicotine.
 

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NOOOOO... I was going to order from them tomorrow, bright and early. I am at the last drop of Mango Lassi and must have.


Speaking of Ahlusion, I have a 15ml amber bottle of Honey Cured that is too honey for me, if anyone wants it, let me know. It has approximately 2-3 mls missing. Ordered about 3 weeks ago. 50/50 base, 12 mg nicotine.

I can see not wanting to run out of Mango Lassi, it's a glorious vape.

I'd jump on that Honey Cured as it's one I want to try, but I recently lucked out on some Vurley so don't want to be greedy lol. Someone else will offer it a good home though.

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NOOOOO... I was going to order from them tomorrow, bright and early. I am at the last drop of Mango Lassi and must have.


Speaking of Ahlusion, I have a 15ml amber bottle of Honey Cured that is too honey for me, if anyone wants it, let me know. It has approximately 2-3 mls missing. Ordered about 3 weeks ago. 50/50 base, 12 mg nicotine.

I am game. Haven't tried that one yet!
 
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