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You really took one for the team there, kudos. That stuff sounds like the twin of V2 Red.
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You really took one for the team there, kudos. That stuff sounds like the twin of V2 Red.
Yessir! It's a keeper. Even though I like anise (I loved black jelly beans and licorice growing up, fennel cakes and Italian foods), I never thought I could vape it. I like cinnamon, but I can't vape it for very long without it closing my throatBut anise seems to be less harsh than cinnamon. The citrus/bergamot is way in the back on this one with the anise up front and makes it quite enjoyable.
Overall, thanks Jerms for the MOV experience! Very worthwhile. Looking forward to grabbing Pendragon and Sunday Morning someday soon. plus more Black Forest, Apache and Hey Jack.
Sweet, glad you like BF! I enjoy anise in a vape, especially if done sparingly like with this one. Cinnamon... I had it once early on and it scared me off. Was one of those hot tamale/ red hots type vapes. I need to try cinnamon in a vape again done with a softer hand. I've heard the cinnamon roll one from ThePlumeRoom is really good.
SunMorn, PenD.. PLUS SoGent. Can't forget the gentleman.
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Originally, I was going to bypass both Apache and Southern Gentleman since I've been diggin' the sweet stuff lately. But Apache isn't as scary as I imagined it would be, so SG should be enjoyable as well.
Originally, I was going to bypass both Apache and Southern Gentleman since I've been diggin' the sweet stuff lately. But Apache isn't as scary as I imagined it would be, so SG should be enjoyable as well.
SoGent is tame compared to Apache; but some may say more complex? A great vape.
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I have asked this before, but I don't think it got any traction. One more time...
Is it me, or does Apache NOT taste like a macerated liquid? Steve said it was, but I dunno how much I can jive with that (not saying he's a liar, but I wonder if there's some other outsourced extracts in there). To me, it tastes too much like Ahlusion's aros and most of us can attest to those NOT tasting like macerations... because they're not (hell, Wlad even said, after I let him try it, "that tastes like something I would do," and I know exactly what he was referring to-----> aromatics). He did assure me that he personally is not working with MOV.
Hell, HHV's tobaccos don't taste like macerations because they're not. DV's tobaccos don't taste like macerations because they're not. Macerations IMO always taste like it. So what gives with Apache? Thoughts? Anyone?
Is it me, or does Apache NOT taste like a macerated liquid? Steve said it was, but I dunno how much I can jive with that (not saying he's a liar, but I wonder if there's some other outsourced extracts in there). To me, it tastes too much like Ahlusion's aros and most of us can attest to those NOT tasting like macerations... because they're not (hell, Wlad even said, after I let him try it, "that tastes like something I would do," and I know exactly what he was referring to-----> aromatics). He did assure me that he personally is not working with MOV.
Hell, HHV's tobaccos don't taste like macerations because they're not. DV's tobaccos don't taste like macerations because they're not. Macerations IMO always taste like it. So what gives with Apache? Thoughts? Anyone?
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Southern Gentleman shares some flavor notes with Apache but like Jerms said, it is substantially less aggressive. There is an amaretto note in SG that is very secondary but I pick it up occasionally and love it. I think it is what adds just a little sweet to this juice.
Say it ain't so! More cherry? It needs more what?Yeah, he should be able to accommodate.
Yep - the cherry was way way way in the background in my ProTank 2. It took dripping in the 357 to register it. It's in the Aromatic line so it's was a good vape..I just thought the cherry had already smoked itself out.
I haven't tried it in a few weeks, so for all I know, it came back from vacation well rested and ready to party. That actually sounds quite nice. Black Forest (non-NET) gets a little boozy notes now and then, like Halo's Southern Classic.
Man, that's so CHERRY to begin with, I don't know how he'd react. Might just dump a shot full of maraschino flavoring in it while he curses your name.
Just kidding. Sort of.
Hmm..good point. Well, I'll say w2v's sure as hell acts and performs like a maceration. But then again, w2v keeps their process highly guarded. And for a liquid as vocal as Apache is, it did not affect my "disposable" attys one bit. If they see w2v coming, they run the other way.
Yep - the cherry was way way way in the background in my ProTank 2. It took dripping in the 357 to register it. It's in the Aromatic line so it's was a good vape..I just thought the cherry had already smoked itself out.
Okay, I missed this. The cherries fade. They're strong right away, but right away doesn't last for too long. After that, it's a mild-cherry tobacco. Still great, but not BIGCHERRYBURLEYMONSTER anymore.
Question: why use a Pro Tank when you know it won't deliver all the flavor in a juice?
I swear I was going to say something like that. A pressing action or something. I don't believe it's simply just soaking. I mean, it may be soaking, but it's not just soaking (not that it ever really is that simple, but they have something else going on).
Lol, yeah London was a dirty one. Ahlusion's aros, while I wouldn't call dirty, are a little gunky to me. Not sure how much we can go by gunk factor as some maceration are really clean, like Cravin. Apache seemed about the same as MOVs other NETs as far as clean burning.
I will agree that Apache does feel like a different extraction process than the rest of their line, but I'm not sure I can personally tell what technique is used by flavor.
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When I vaped Devil Dog, London, and Apache consecutively to compare them, I found all to be similar yet a few differences became apparent. Mainly the Burley in London and Devil Dog vs. oriental in Apache and some differences in Latakia impact. Had I been asked which were macerations, I could not have made more than an educated guess.
When A+ aros are fresh, I get a different aroma from them that I attribute to the CO2 extraction. Never have gotten that from Apache but Steve batch mixes. My guess: maceration.
Man, when I first got Apache, I thought, this is not a macerated liquid. To me it had a similar fume as the aros. In my experience (save for w2v, even though we don't know how those are extracted), macerations are generally pretty distiguishable. However, I will say (not to undermine my theory) that some of HoL's liquids don't taste like macerations exactly (Puros, Cigarillos, etc.). Well, whatever, I still don't think Apache is done the same way. Plus, it just kinda sits there like, oh, I dunno, all alone. LOL
Man, I just knew I wasn't the only one. Well, call me Apache.
Where does Uncle BJ stand on this. For me London is an ADV...Devil Dog is the manliest vape around and not an ADV, but excellent in short bursts. I have yet to try Apache
Did somebody say APACHE?! Best damn NET out there for my Pipes.. It's dedicated to the Pipes, period!!
Edit: BJ, buddy.. You gotta get some!
Edit: BJ, buddy.. You gotta get some!
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Moondrop's "Hummingbird Wine" sounds interesting...tobacco absolute with honeysuckle and a touch of cinnamon. However that vendor is currently MIA
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