Natural Tobaccos

[rdsok]

Shat...

Check the ohm's with a mulitmeter so you can see if it has an open circuit or not... also make certain the middle 510 pin is actually making contact and if not, raise it on the mod or lower the one in the rda so it can ( use the one in the rda to determine which needs done, if it extends just beyond the 510 threads on the rda, its the MOD's pin that needs raised, if it doesn't extend then the pin on the RDA needs lowered ).

Also... don't forget to do the math ( Ohms Law )... there are a bunch of online Ohm's law calculators out there and you need to know that you aren't pulling too many amps for the battery you have in your mod.

 

[johni]

Shatner, here is a good video on microcoils. It's done on a RM2 but principles remain the same. reo mod w/ micro coil - YouTube

 

[boomerdude]

Actually, that looks like a nice evenly spaced coil. You don't have a Kick in your mech, do you ? Fresh battery should be giving you 4.2V. Only thing I can think of is that your battery won't fire because your resistance is too low.

 

[Vapo Marx]

I'd measure the resistance between the posts with the coil installed and cover off, then again at the battery connector with the cover in place. The way the coil is sitting in the photo, I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of turns are being shorted out when the cover's installed.

 

[shatner]

Shatner, use a multimeter and determine where you have lost contact. Most likely the firing pin and positive post on the atty do not have contact.

If you're going to use silica, your wick needs to be tighter in the coil. Also looks like the coil will contact the atty housing when installed which creates a dead short. Coil can't touch the base or cap.

I don't have a multimeter. Even if I did I have no clue how to determine where contact was lost. It's not the firing pin/atty post connection.

Shat...

Check the ohm's with a mulitmeter so you can see if it has an open circuit or not... also make certain the middle 510 pin is actually making contact and if not, raise it on the mod or lower the one in the RDA so it can ( use the one in the RDA to determine which needs done, if it extends just beyond the 510 threads on the RDA, its the MOD's pin that needs raised, if it doesn't extend then the pin on the RDA needs lowered ).

Also... don't forget to do the math ( Ohms Law )... there are a bunch of online Ohm's law calculators out there and you need to know that you aren't pulling too many amps for the battery you have in your mod.

Like I said; no multimeter and I don't know how to use one beyond checking a battery.

Link to a good, easy to use Ohm's calculator?

Shatner, here is a good video on microcoils. It's done on a RM2 but principles remain the same. reo mod w/ micro coil - YouTube

Thanks, johni. I'm about to watch it.

Actually, that looks like a nice evenly spaced coil. You don't have a Kick in your mech, do you ? Fresh battery should be giving you 4.2V. Only thing I can think of is that your battery won't fire because your resistance is too low.

Thanks, boomer! I was actually quite proud being as it was my first coil. I even did it before I watched a vid. After watching the vid I now know to torch the coil to prevent gaps.
I do have a kick in my Atmizoo. But even my Kicked Atmizoo gives me trouble with a 2 Ohm carto tank. I sent an email to the vendor I got if from. Bummer because I love that PV. Very classy.


Anyway, I got it working on my Curve (The Curve) by fiddling with it. Can the coil touch the posts? Whomever said it was shorting on the atty body was correct, I believe. Works pretty well, although I'm not getting lots of vapor. But the flavor is a bit better than the 510 Stingray atties from thehouseofvapor.com

I might be a convert, after all. I'll know for sure once my Atmizoo is fixed.

 

[shatner]

I'd measure the resistance between the posts with the coil installed and cover off, then again at the battery connector with the cover in place. The way the coil is sitting in the photo, I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of turns are being shorted out when the cover's installed.

It was shorted by the cover, but loosening the set screws and adjusting the coil placement solved the issue.

"measure the resistance between the posts with the coil installed": Will that give me the Ohms/resistance of the coil?

"then again at the battery connector with the cover in place": Wat? You lost me. You mean the pv 'female' (where the atty goes) and the aty 510 connector? If so what will that tell me?

Sorry for all the n00b questions. I know there's a place for this on the forum, but I know you guys. So thanks! I'm learning a lot and actually getting somewhere.

 

[Vapo Marx]

"measure the resistance between the posts with the coil installed": Will that give me the Ohms/resistance of the coil?

Yes, and it'll verify continuity between the coil wire and the posts. If the wire wasn't making good contact with one or both posts for whatever reason, you'd have an open circuit.

"then again at the battery connector with the cover in place": Wat? You lost me. You mean the pv 'female' (where the atty goes) and the aty 510 connector? If so what will that tell me?

At the atty's 510 connector. That'll tell you if anything is changing (e.g., coil being partially shorted out) when you install the cover.

Personally, I wouldn't dream of doing this stuff without an ohmmeter/multimeter on hand. It's like stepping into an elevator with eyes closed; you might get lucky most of the time but...

 

[rdsok]

You can pick up a cheap multimeter from Harbor Freight

When you first turn it on and switch it over into ohms mode... touch the leads together to see what resistance they have without a load. Later, after testing your coil, you subtract that amount from the reading you have to know what your coil's resistance is.

I'm reloading my cell phone right now so I'm going to be busy with that for some time.... but I suspect you can google for an ohm's law calculator just as easy as I can... look for one that lets you put in just two values and figures the rest out for you... I use an app on my phone so I don't already have a favorite one online.

If you don't already know what your battery can handle in amps... google the exact make/model and look for a flashlight forum website... they usually list that type of stuff

 

[Bronze]

Here's one.

Online Conversion - Ohm's Law Calculator

 

[shatner]

Yes, and it'll verify continuity between the coil wire and the posts. If the wire wasn't making good contact with one or both posts for whatever reason, you'd have an open circuit.



At the atty's 510 connector. That'll tell you if anything is changing (e.g., coil being partially shorted out) when you install the cover.

Personally, I wouldn't dream of doing this stuff without an ohmmeter/multimeter on hand. It's like stepping into an elevator with eyes closed; you might get lucky most of the time but...

Thanks for the info. Looks like I'll be setting it aside until I get a mutlimeter. Which could be a month or more. I'm moiving on Tuesday and it gets expensive fast. Especially with movers, security deposit, pet deposit x2 plus more I'm forgetting.

I'm actually pretty impressed that I managed to build a coil that works. At least better than the coil that came with it.

Here's one.

Online Conversion - Ohm's Law Calculator

Thank you, Sir.

 

[Vapo Marx]

Or get a pocket calculator from the dollah store and tape an Ohm's Law chart to the back. Two benefits to this approach:

1. No need to be near a computer or smartphone.

2. Eventually you'll start to memorize Ohm's Law.

http://w4zt.com/ohmspie.gif

 

[jefsview]

See, Shatner, it wasn't too difficult, and it worked. Mine weren't pretty either, but mostly worked.

In lieu of a multimeter, you can check the resistance on your SVD, which has built in protection. Just to check ohms and to see if there is a short. I only have a MVP 1.5, without an Ohm meter, but it will tell me if there is a short by not firing and turning off. With the SVD, it doesn't fire when you use the ohm checker, so little risk of a mishap.

Sorry to not be there while you were trying to figure it out. I was working.

 

[shatner]

See, Shatner, it wasn't too difficult, and it worked. Mine weren't pretty either, but mostly worked.

In lieu of a multimeter, you can check the resistance on your SVD, which has built in protection. Just to check ohms and to see if there is a short. I only have a MVP 1.5, without an Ohm meter, but it will tell me if there is a short by not firing and turning off. With the SVD, it doesn't fire when you use the ohm checker, so little risk of a mishap.

Sorry to not be there while you were trying to figure it out. I was working.

No worries. And yes, I can check it on my SVD. I'm going to build another coil in a bit. Now that I've seen several vids I think I can do it. Oh, and my organic cotton balls came in today.

 

[boomerdude]

The taste from a well made coil on an RDA is hands down the best vape out there.

IMHO things are getting silly with umpteen mechanicals and RDA's that are all clones of each other. Put a spring loaded pin in a mod and call it " the new version 2.1.0 B" with newbies having to wade through all the detritus just to get a decent vape.

On the other hand, it's a joy to see the ingenuity of vapers, coming up with all kinds of mods. Micro-coils, home extraction, etc. It's fun watching things change from week to week. And all the while sucking down our ADV's.

 

[johni]

The taste from a well made coil on an RDA is hands down the best vape out there.

IMHO things are getting silly with umpteen mechanicals and RDA's that are all clones of each other. Put a spring loaded pin in a mod and call it " the new version 2.1.0 B" with newbies having to wade through all the detritus just to get a decent vape.

On the other hand, it's a joy to see the ingenuity of vapers, coming up with all kinds of mods. Micro-coils, home extraction, etc. It's fun watching things change from week to week. And all the while sucking down our ADV's.

Agreed boomer. It's nice to get to the point where you sit back and enjoy the hobby of vaping without frantically searching for "the next best thing". I went by my local B&M today out of curiosity more than anything. It was full of people just starting out and trying new flavors. Soon left, feeling thankful to have made it 10 months without a smoke.

 

[Vapo Marx]

Yeah, boy! I can finally get to rebuilding. Maybe tomorrow.

 

[ghweiss]

hi everyone!

i'm writing this to thank you all for entertaining me while i consumed this entire thread. that was a big task, but on the other hand, at least i don't have to bother with any other juice-related threads on ECF. which is to say, if it isn't a natural extraction, i'm not interested this isn't on principle. i've been vaping for over 2 years and i've tried hundreds of juices. most are nifty for a few puffs, maybe even excellent, but they either get boring or distracting. what i love about tobacco, real tobacco, is the same thing i love about good electronic music: the subtle complexity means i can pay as much or as little attention to it as i want.

equipment: i've never found a tank capable of proper flavor/hit delivery. i have to drip. sometimes it's inconvenient, and i imagine hardware will someday be invented that will revolutionize the industry, but for now i just use a simple phoenix-style RDA. and for this, an ego battery works fine for me. i don't vary my heads so i don't need variable anything. flat kanthal "micro-coil" + cotton is easily the best setup i've ever tried, and i've tried all kinds at vape meets. i'm open to suggestions of course.

as for vendors, i've tried about 3/4ths of those mentioned in this thread. vaperite was the first to wow me a year ago, though i came to be terrified of cracking open vapemail from them due to several unprofessional mixups and inconsistency issues. then i moved on to want2vape, which everyone here seems to love. i was impressed with alcazar and stockholm, but that's it. the rest (yes i tried everything) seemed murky and imbalanced, with oddly muted throat hit. plus they were murder on coils, which was a big deal before i moved into rebuildable country. goodejuice was next, tried them all, found them to be decent but stale. my 2 favorites were acadian and (aged) vita bella. i tried primevaping too, not bad, but on the murky side and not much selection. still on the hunt for the perfect vendor, i came to this thread (a few months ago) and dove into heather's. wow, not my thing. i would never have guessed that these were NETs. chemically, sticky-sweet, pungent. at least they were better than highbrow, which i simply could not ingest. all of them had something weird and nauseating going on.

and then there's NETCOM. the vape shop i always wanted to exist. as a vendor they're not perfect, but their juice is what i want, all the time. any variety.

ps. i like banana.

 

[jefsview]

welcome to the thread, ghweiss.

Look forward to your reviews, impressions or just general chat.

Yes, we tend to chat

Who doesn't like banana?

 

[johni]

Welcome ghweiss. Sounds like you will fit right in.

We have somewhat similar tastes except I really like a few flavors you find muddy. Edit: no nanners here!

I too arrived at dripping as my favorite way to enjoy NETs and like you, I vape little else. The next step for me was a bottom feeder (Reo) to keep the flavor of dripping without having to constantly drip.

Look forward to you joining our discussions.

 

[Mr.Mann]

hi everyone!

i'm writing this to thank you all for entertaining me while i consumed this entire thread. that was a big task, but on the other hand, at least i don't have to bother with any other juice-related threads on ECF. which is to say, if it isn't a natural extraction, i'm not interested this isn't on principle. i've been vaping for over 2 years and i've tried hundreds of juices. most are nifty for a few puffs, maybe even excellent, but they either get boring or distracting. what i love about tobacco, real tobacco, is the same thing i love about good electronic music: the subtle complexity means i can pay as much or as little attention to it as i want.

equipment: i've never found a tank capable of proper flavor/hit delivery. i have to drip. sometimes it's inconvenient, and i imagine hardware will someday be invented that will revolutionize the industry, but for now i just use a simple phoenix-style RDA. and for this, an ego battery works fine for me. i don't vary my heads so i don't need variable anything. flat kanthal "micro-coil" + cotton is easily the best setup i've ever tried, and i've tried all kinds at vape meets. i'm open to suggestions of course.

as for vendors, i've tried about 3/4ths of those mentioned in this thread. vaperite was the first to wow me a year ago, though i came to be terrified of cracking open vapemail from them due to several unprofessional mixups and inconsistency issues. then i moved on to want2vape, which everyone here seems to love. i was impressed with alcazar and stockholm, but that's it. the rest (yes i tried everything) seemed murky and imbalanced, with oddly muted throat hit. plus they were murder on coils, which was a big deal before i moved into rebuildable country. goodejuice was next, tried them all, found them to be decent but stale. my 2 favorites were acadian and (aged) vita bella. i tried primevaping too, not bad, but on the murky side and not much selection. still on the hunt for the perfect vendor, i came to this thread (a few months ago) and dove into heather's. wow, not my thing. i would never have guessed that these were NETs. chemically, sticky-sweet, pungent. at least they were better than highbrow, which i simply could not ingest. all of them had something weird and nauseating going on.

and then there's NETCOM. the vape shop i always wanted to exist. as a vendor they're not perfect, but their juice is what i want, all the time. any variety.

ps. i like banana.

Get this vaper some Apache.

Good to meet you, gh.

Look at it on the bright side, as it seems you already are--you've already mastered what you don't want! That's very important.

Yes. NETCOM filled a void that could only be filled by "one of us."