Natural Tobaccos

[Bronze]

To be honest, I think Ahlusion's aromatics blow your head of off more than the W2V Signature Line. At least they do so in a different way. Devil Dog! definitely does. I think you will find L & L smoother than you imagined

I'm beginning to think BYHO vapes are subject to opinion as much as flavor is.

BTW...Cravin Vapes took 116 minutes from order confirmation to shipping notice. Compared to GeJ's customary 18 minutes, I'd say CV is slow! Compared to everyone else, they're fast!!!

 

[Bronze]

To be honest, I think Ahlusion's aromatics blow your head of off more than the W2V Signature Line. At least they do so in a different way. Devil Dog! definitely does. I think you will find L & L smoother than you imagined

BTW, I did have one or two W2V. I know I had Kuba Kuba (awful!) and I believe one more that I cannot remember which one. Obviously it was not memorable. I think it was their acid blondie, not sure. I just remember it being dry as hell.

 

[Vapo Marx]

Adv!

 

[Mr.Mann]

BTW, I did have one or two W2V. I know I had Kuba Kuba (awful!) and I believe one more that I cannot remember which one. Obviously it was not memorable. I think it was their acid blondie, not sure. I just remember it being dry as hell.

Kuba Kuba is QnJ. w2v doesn't have a Kuba.

 

[Bronze]

Kuba Kuba is QnJ. w2v doesn't have a Kuba.

W2V sold their Kuba Kuba through Vulcan Vapes or one of them.

 

[Mr.Mann]

W2V sold their Kuba Kuba through Vulcan Vapes or one of them.

Sho nuff. Kuba Kuba : Vulcan Vape

How does QnJ's compare?

 

[Chinook]

I have a kayfun Lite and have no issues with airflow. Just speaking for me.

Thanks for the feedback Bronze! Would you say that if one has Kayfun Lite (especially for vaping NETS), then he/she can stop searching for a "better'" atomizer for the next ~two years ?

 

[Mr.Mann]

B, I think I was one of the few here that liked the Kuba. I am interested in w2v's vs. QnJ's. I always considered QnJ's straight-up backys to be more w2v like than, say, GeJ.

 

[Jerms]

B, I think I was one of the few here that liked the Kuba. I am interested in w2v's vs. QnJ's. I always considered QnJ's straight-up backys to be more w2v like than, say, GeJ.

I haven't had a Kuba vape yet, just smoked the cigar once. My guess would be W2V's Kuba would be very similar to QnJ's. The Blond from W2V is almost a replica to H+ Yellow Mane from NETcom, both of which are almost a replica of the ACID Blondie cigar they are extracted from.

Macerations of a flavored cigar like the ACIDs should taste pretty close no matter who does it, with just slight variations depending on techniques used. I wonder if that would be true if a different extraction technique from maceration is used. Maybe Wlad or Darth Vapers will one day do an ACID NET.

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[Bronze]

Sho nuff. Kuba Kuba : Vulcan Vape

How does QnJ's compare?

Never attempted QnJ's KK because I was talking with (I can't remember) who sampled QnJ's KK and they described it to me and was exactly as I described W2V's KK...old man's cologne!

 

[RPadTV]

Cravin' Vapes is like an HHV Lite. Generally friendly flavors but CV just lacks it too much. We'll see. At 15% off (plus CV is inexpensive to begin with) I decided to give it one more shot. Pretty hard to jump on a vendor having tried only two flavors.

I totally agree that CV's NETs are like HHV lite. From the eight juices I've tried, the company does a better job with sweets. The NETs are decent, but there are better choices out there. With a different balance, they could compete with HHV.

Ok, so they are easy to rebuild? Quite honestly they look like a ..... and a half.

It's pretty easy -- just slightly more involved than rebuilding an RDA and much easier than rebuilding a Genesis (the atomizer, not Phil Collins).

Ray, here are my questions on these. First, I've heard the draw on the KFL is airy (which I hate). How airy, compared to, for example, a Vapage 510 atty? This is why I've considered the clone, which has airflow control. I'd pay the $20 extra for the original, if the draw was suitable for me. Second, how does the flavor compare to a good 510 atty? If I vape, say, an Ahlusion aromatic, will I get the nuances of the tobacco and the complementary flavor as completely as with a good 510 or 901?

I've been meaning to ask you and Tez about these, because you both have similar flavor and JDS leanings to mine. So, here's my chance.

The Kayfun Lite is definitely airier than a dripping atomizer, but still firmer than most rebuildables. The flavor is fantastic and as good as a 510 or a well-built RDA. I'm confident that Tez would have the same or a similar assessment. If you want something really firm then the AFC would definitely help. My only concern for you would be that the draw still might not be tight enough for you. For flavor, I don't think you have anything to worry about. My setup with Twik and Wicked Wire, and the only way the Kayfun/Russian could make me happier is if it also cooked meals for me.

 

[Bronze]

Thanks for the feedback Bronze! Would you say that if one has Kayfun Lite (especially for vaping NETS), then he/she can stop searching for a "better'" atomizer for the next ~two years ?

Obsolescence will kill the Kayfun before the construction quality will...if that's what you're asking.

Kayfun is (to use Dust's words) a game changer for me. So until the next game changer comes along, I'm certain I will be using my Kayfun.

 

[Bronze]

B, I think I was one of the few here that liked the Kuba. I am interested in w2v's vs. QnJ's. I always considered QnJ's straight-up backys to be more w2v like than, say, GeJ.

Yes, you did say you enjoyed KK. Now you know why I am jealous of your (wider than mine) palate. Interesting take on your straight up QnJ vs W2V. Would that include their turkish tobacco and Habana Daydream, and Fire Cured?

 

[Bronze]

Great Raymond...I just ordered three more CV's and you're telling me I can expect the same as I got from my first two CV's from 8 months ago.

Thanks Buddy!

 

[Mr.Mann]

Yes, you did say you enjoyed KK. Now you know why I am jealous of your (wider than mine) palate. Interesting take on your straight up QnJ vs W2V. Would that include their turkish tobacco and Habana Daydream, and Fire Cured?

See, with a couple of those offerings from QnJ, that's where the differences emerge. Not necessarily the differences in capabilities of flavor extraction from tobaccos, but the type of tobaccos used to get flavor from. w2v doesn't hardly do any standard tobacco blends or single-leaf--just pre-ordained cig/cigar/chew/pipe. When I first tried Grandpa'sNc, Kuba, and Habana from QnJ, I thought they were very much w2v like; the Fire Cured, and Turkish is something that is missing from w2v.

Where I think NETCOM shines is in a similar approach to those two, but with unparalleled variety. NETCOM, w2v and QnJ I put in the same category. If I am in the mood for any one of those three vendors, any one of those vendors would suffice. It just so happens that Clay has more to keep my attention if the mood strikes.

 

[MFToms59]

I was always adverse to Blow-Your-Head-Off vapes. I know W2V specializes in those kind of vapes. That's why I have steered clear. But then most think Apache is a BYHO vape and I don't think that at all. looking forward to L and L.

I'm a happy W2V Vaper, Louisville is tops for all-around goodness, Managua is a full-bodied straight Cigar Tobacco, and CI Cigar (Kuba Kuba) had Green/Herbal, and Tea notes I found enjoyable in the afternoon. The Blond(Acid Blondie) had a full & silky mouth-feel, and for me a background note of Hazelnut , Stockholm is on deck, once I finish my 10ml of Managua.

That said, none of the previously mentioned juices Blew my head off, they were just delicious Big Font Tobacco's made well. Now PARIS(the Juice), does Bow my Head off, as well as murder coils, it tastes great and has that Knuckle-Dragging quality like no other juice I've tried. I had double filtered the last ~10ml of Paris, didn't diminish the flavor much and had no affect on its coil killing mentality.

B, I think I was one of the few here that liked the Kuba. I am interested in w2v's vs. QnJ's. I always considered QnJ's straight-up backys to be more w2v like than, say, GeJ.

Qnic & W2V Kuba are so close in flavor, I would be hard pressed to identify the maker in a blind taste test, though I don't recall any Hazelnut background flavor in the Qnic Kuba, which is slightly easier on your coils.

 

[Bronze]

See, with a couple of those offerings from QnJ, that's where the differences emerge. Not necessarily the differences in capabilities of flavor extraction from tobaccos, but the type of tobaccos used to get flavor from. w2v doesn't hardly do any standard tobacco blends or single-leaf--just pre-ordained cig/cigar/chew/pipe. When I first tried Grandpa'sNc, Kuba, and Habana from QnJ, I thought they were very much w2v like; the Fire Cured, and Turkish is something that is missing from w2v.

Where I think NETCOM shines is in a similar approach to those two, but with unparalleled variety. NETCOM, w2v and QnJ I put in the same category. If I am in the mood for any one of those three vendors, any one of those vendors would suffice. It just so happens that Clay has more to keep my attention if the mood strikes.

I can't put my thumb on NETCOM yet. His Balkan is near-identical to MOV's Apache. His Black Cav is kind of a cross between HHV and QnJ. His other vapes (e.g., Coventry and Dover Court) are kind of QnJ. Some of the others I don't know. Can't find a spot for all of them. Maybe that's good??

 

[Bronze]

MF...I had always thought of W2V as a BYHO vape (in general). But after folks were telling me they thought Apache was a BYHO (and I didn't) I was suddenly unafraid of W2V. BJ's sampler package of London and L'Ville just arrived today so I will be getting my crack at it over the next days. Can't wait.

 

[Big Juicy]

I can tell you right now why you can't categorize Clay's operation. Based on a combination of ridiculous options, website functionality, packaging, customer service, the quality of the NET's, and Clay actually being one of us ... NETCOM is unrivaled, in a class of their own.

If you feel you MUST slot them up, then my guess is until you sample their Fire Cured Burley you can't make a clear slotting. The Perique and Latakia could take the whole operation to a whole other level.

One of the really exciting things about that operation is obviously the single leaf extractions. There is certainly a void in the market between buying off the rack and straight up DIY...and Clay is looking to fill that void. Truly wonderful. I will never extract my own liquids...but I ordered all the single leafs and will definitely experiment to find blends that work for me. That is a very exciting proposition.

 

[Chinook]

Obsolescence will kill the Kayfun before the construction quality will...if that's what you're asking.

Kayfun is (to use Dust's words) a game changer for me. So until the next game changer comes along, I'm certain I will be using my Kayfun.

Thanks Bronze, perfect, that's what I was asking I wish you many happy days of vaping with the Kayfun!