Natural Tobaccos

[ed101z]

Anyone know what extract was used to make Legend (HHV) juice? I'm getting a very deep and very rich tobacco taste with a very aromatic smell. This juice is probably the most robust flavor I've tried from any vender(MOV, GeJ, and NET.com). I'm not ready to review it yet. I think steeping will help some, but I can surely see why lots of folks rated it the #1 Tobacco flavored juice for 2013. Definitely packs a punch that you remember.

Oh, as far as Gunking goes -- this is THE BEST burning Juice I've ever vaped! After 2ml, the coil is very clean.

 

[erawk]

cherry cavendish of some sort IMO.

 

[Jerms]

Anyone know what extract was used to make Legend (HHV) juice? I'm getting a very deep and very rich tobacco taste with a very aromatic smell. This juice is probably the most robust flavor I've tried from any vender(MOV, GeJ, and NET.com). I'm not ready to review it yet. I think steeping will help some, but I can surely see why lots of folks rated it the #1 Tobacco flavored juice for 2013. Definitely packs a punch that you remember.

Oh, as far as Gunking goes -- this is THE BEST burning Juice I've ever vaped! After 2ml, the coil is very clean.

Most of their NETs are based on Cavendish, Burley, and Virginia. Other than that, it's pretty hush-hush what goes into each one. My guess with Legend is that something with a cherry casing or cherry flavoring was involved.

 

[ed101z]

cherry cavendish of some sort IMO.

Most of their NETs are based on Cavendish, Burley, and Virginia. Other than that, it's pretty hush-hush what goes into each one. My guess with Legend is that something with a cherry casing or cherry flavoring was involved.

Thanks. Yep...there's a noticeable Cherry note in it. Can anyone recommend a steeping period for HHV Legend, Hunstman, and Heavenly ARMY?? Each one is good, but steeping is a must.

 

[boomerdude]

You might want to try some of the Island tobacco juices for "peppery" tastes. Reggae Nights comes to mind, but I wouldn't recommend vaping it alone. You might mix it with something to tone it down.

 

[Jerms]

Just got a HUGE vape mail from my good friend Mann! Some NETs includes that will be new to me; a few from the River Bottom Fog Sauce line. Vaperite's Natural Rou's Toasted Hazelnut Tobacco. Kuba Kuba from W2V, and a few I've never heard of from them (plus Creme Brulee non-NET that I've wanted from them). Jungle Juice from Ahlusion. And several artibaccos that I've been wanting to try.

Lots of goodies, these along with the last batch of Bill's NETs that I haven't got to yet means I'll still get to be trying new juices while vaping my large current collection down. That'll make it easier to not buy juices for a while and to actually work down my collection.

 

[KC33]

Thanks for the recommendation Bill. I recently placed GLF on my list of vendors to try, as I've heard lots of good about them. Haven't looked into what to get yet, so Deadly Sin added. If I remember right, their El Kamino is also highly recommended, have you had that one?

Jerms, I just got DS and EK in the mail today. I vaped them both and I am totally impressed. The only other juice I've really enjoyed without steeping is H1N1. I'm wondering how these two will taste after a week or two. I really don't taste any tobacco at this point but that's not a complaint.

 

[Jerms]

There was a couple Patriot bottles in my vape mail, one an older from a while back at 24mg nic and a newer one from around October at 18mg. The 24mg tastes about the same as my current stash of Patriot, which was mixed in July. The October made Patriot though... noticable difference. It's still Patriot, but my initial impression is that it doesn't taste nearly as good to me.

Not sure how big of a batch this came from or if they are still on this batch, but I personally wouldn't be too happy if this is what I got. Not that it's bad, but it's not the great vape I'm used too. Hope the flavor goes back to how I know Patriot is with the next batch, though it may already have since this was from several months ago.

 

[Jerms]

Jerms, I just got DS and EK in the mail today. I vaped them both and I am totally impressed. The only other juice I've really enjoyed without steeping is H1N1. I'm wondering how these two will taste after a week or two. I really don't taste any tobacco at this point but that's not a complaint.

Cool! I have a feeling I'm going to dig them. Also getting Bangkok Dangerous and High Five when I order from them.

 

[Mr.Mann]

There was a couple Patriot bottles in my vape mail, one an older from a while back at 24mg nic and a newer one from around October at 18mg. The 24mg tastes about the same as my current stash of Patriot, which was mixed in July. The October made Patriot though... noticable difference. It's still Patriot, but my initial impression is that it doesn't taste nearly as good to me.

Not sure how big of a batch this came from or if they are still on this batch, but I personally wouldn't be too happy if this is what I got. Not that it's bad, but it's not the great vape I'm used too. Hope the flavor goes back to how I know Patriot is with the next batch, though it may already have since this was from several months ago.

I was shocked too, Jerms. Part of the reason I sent you that was so you see what I saw--we can love a liquid, but sometimes when others don't, it's not simply a matter of them not liking what we got but them actually getting a liquid that is in fact off. Prior to me tasting that Patriot, I would've clowned anyone that said Patriot V2 was anything less than brilliant. I have learned that it ain't always the vaper on the other side doing something "wrong" or just not "getting" the liquid.

Oh, and this is extended to virtually every vendor. It is in fact very rare for a vendor to have supreme consistency. My heart just about broke when I got B_n_J's "Smokin' Cherries." Oh well, there's always DK-Tab. LOL. Joking...sorta.

*Note: I don't mean to say our championed vendors suffer from inconsistency, just that they are not immune to hiccups.

 

[Jerms]

I was shocked too, Jerms. Part of the reason I sent you that was so you see what I saw--we can love a liquid, but sometimes when others don't, it's not simply a matter of them not liking what we got but them actually getting a liquid that is in fact off. Prior to me tasting that Patriot, I would've clowned anyone that said Patriot V2 was anything less than brilliant. I have learned that it ain't always the vaper on the other side doing something "wrong" or just not "getting" the liquid.

Oh, and this is extended to virtually every vendor. It is in fact very rare for a vendor to have supreme consistency. My heart just about broke when I got B_n_J's "Smokin' Cherries." Oh well, there's always DK-Tab. LOL. Joking...sorta.

*Note: I don't mean to say our championed vendors suffer from inconsistency, just that they are not immune to hiccups.

Yeah, Ahlusion, GeJ.. it can happen with any vendor I guess. It's too bad, but just something that needs to be accepted by those of us who love vendor juices, and especially us who enjoy NETs which are a lot more complex and have more potential issues than juices that use mixed synthetic flavors. Even with those too, issues come up where a flavoring company changes recipe, or a juice vendor has to substitute if a flavor becomes unavailable. And of course sometimes a juice gets mixed wrong or labeled wrong, which is bound to happen. Having a fantastic 99.9% accuracy, which would be impressive for a vendor, still results in people occasionally getting a bum bottle.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Yeah, Ahlusion, GeJ.. it can happen with any vendor I guess. It's too bad, but just something that needs to be accepted by those of us who love vendor juices, and especially us who enjoy NETs which are a lot more complex and have more potential issues than juices that use mixed synthetic flavors. Even with those too, issues come up where a flavoring company changes recipe, or a juice vendor has to substitute if a flavor becomes unavailable. And of course sometimes a juice gets mixed wrong or labeled wrong, which is bound to happen. Having a fantastic 99.9% accuracy, which would be impressive for a vendor, still results in people occasionally getting a bum bottle.

It's tricky because on one hand, we have to be careful not to discount new vapers, or just others' take that seems contrary to what we "know" about a vendor/liquid, and on the other hand, we can't let it get too out-of-hand with people saying "I got Devil Dog! and it tastes indistinguishable from Legend" (that's been said before). There's got to be a line drawn somewhere. LOL

 

[Jerms]

It's tricky because on one hand, we have to be careful not to discount new vapers, or just others take that seems contrary to what we "know" about a vendor/liquid, and on the other hand, we can't let it get too out-of-hand with people saying "I got Devil Dog! and it tastes indistinguishable from Legend" (that's been said before). There's got to be a line drawn somewhere. LOL

Yeah, even though sometimes it really is the juice, I still think more often it's the vaper.

 

[papabogart]

There was a couple Patriot bottles in my vape mail, one an older from a while back at 24mg nic and a newer one from around October at 18mg. The 24mg tastes about the same as my current stash of Patriot, which was mixed in July. The October made Patriot though... noticable difference. It's still Patriot, but my initial impression is that it doesn't taste nearly as good to me.

Not sure how big of a batch this came from or if they are still on this batch, but I personally wouldn't be too happy if this is what I got. Not that it's bad, but it's not the great vape I'm used too. Hope the flavor goes back to how I know Patriot is with the next batch, though it may already have since this was from several months ago.

I was shocked too, Jerms. Part of the reason I sent you that was so you see what I saw--we can love a liquid, but sometimes when others don't, it's not simply a matter of them not liking what we got but them actually getting a liquid that is in fact off. Prior to me tasting that Patriot, I would've clowned anyone that said Patriot V2 was anything less than brilliant. I have learned that it ain't always the vaper on the other side doing something "wrong" or just not "getting" the liquid.

Oh, and this is extended to virtually every vendor. It is in fact very rare for a vendor to have supreme consistency. My heart just about broke when I got B_n_J's "Smokin' Cherries." Oh well, there's always DK-Tab. LOL. Joking...sorta.

*Note: I don't mean to say our championed vendors suffer from inconsistency, just that they are not immune to hiccups.

Thanks for posting.
First Patriot I got was August/Sept (savored it and made it last until mid-late December) doubled down in Nov. (60ml) and opened second order late December. Been questioning myself about how my tastes could have changed so much in such a short period..

 

[Jerms]

Thanks for posting.
First Patriot I got was August/Sept (savored it and made it last until mid-late December) doubled down in Nov. (60ml) and opened second order late December. Been questioning myself about how my tastes could have changed so much in such a short period..

Man, that's too bad with such a big bottle. I'm going to get the most of my remaining Patriot while I can. I really hope future batches turn out better, I'd be pretty hesitant to order it again without confirmation that it's a good batch.

 

[BecknCO]

Now, I'll preface this with that fact that I am a NET noob (and vape noob in general), but my 2.5 week steeped patriot in 24mg is really light in flavor (received just before Christmas) - same with Analog. GJ4 and VB are wonderful but I'm finding I really need 11 watts for them to work in a tank.

I'm guessing that Analog and Patriot just need to steep longer. The flavors are there, but again, just really really light (dripping on a joye 306).

 

[jefsview]

Thanks. Yep...there's a noticeable Cherry note in it. Can anyone recommend a steeping period for HHV Legend, Hunstman, and Heavenly ARMY?? Each one is good, but steeping is a must.

I actually like LEGEND and Heavenly ARMY straight away, after the 24 hour caps and drippers off airing out. If I feel like I can do without, I let them steep a week, but they both are pretty satisfying right away. The sweetness backs off the longer you steep, and the tobacco comes stronger. A well steeped HA can come off very black and mild-like.

HUNTSMAN... HUNTSMAN is perfect after 3 months. The last 30ml I received, I started it too soon while he was still in short pants, immature and quite foolish. I whittled away at it, praying for the day I would vape it and see the autumnal colors I once had. But alas, I still enjoyed the youngster. No as much as I enjoy the long pants wearing, axe-wielding forest master. I pray that the one arriving tomorrow will go unnoticed and untouched until the liquid darkens and my woodland god awakes.

 

[jefsview]

Now, I'll preface this with that fact that I am a NET noob (and vape noob in general), but my 2.5 week steeped patriot in 24mg is really light in flavor (received just before Christmas) - same with Analog. GJ4 and VB are wonderful but I'm finding I really need 11 watts for them to work in a tank.

I'm guessing that Analog and Patriot just need to steep longer. The flavors are there, but again, just really really light (dripping on a joye 306).

Patriot was always one of the stronger flavors I have ever vaped until I tried MOV's APACHE. Hopefully you just got a very fresh batch, and it steeps up. My latest bottles of ANALOG and GJ4 are the same (fantastic) flavor as the earlier bottles.

 

[jefsview]

My HHV order finally arrived in Illinois tonight and I should receive them tomorrow.

unfortunately, it looks like the Winter Storms swallowed my Kayfun Light Clone and Fogger!!!

HHV was shipped out Priority on the 6th, while the atomizers shipped on the 4th with First Class mail. Dread chews on my toes as the winter wind nips at my flesh.

 

[erawk]

Papabogart - im guessing you already stumbled upon this interview with Mark Ryan of LA Roche; but its an enjoyable read for anyone interested in perique. So i figured id post it here. http://pipesmagazine.com/blog/put-that-in-your-pipe/the-mystique-of-perique/