Thanks... I will google it. I thought it was a description of the tobacco flavor type, rather than the process.
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Maybe a cigar or pipe tobacco would be a nice replacement for analog tobacco? I just don't get tobacco vibe from anything else i've tried. I think I can adjust my taste palate to another tobacco flavor as long as my brain recognizes some tobacco flavor cue. So far, none have triggered that recognition.
I like the Fab & Burley, but I am not too certain if any of those are exactly LT style liquids. You may just find a winner though considering free liquid always takes off any pressure to like.
Sorry if you've stated this, but what do you use to vape and what have you tried thus far? If you build your own coils, and you're looking for a tobacco taste unlike any other, try Paris from w2v for a euro-type cig (unfiltered Gauloises--I think it's almost eerily spot-on!). If you're not building you're own coils, I'd say approach with caution as Paris will likely be quick-to-gunk.
Yeah I thought it was just a type of tobacco before this thread. I didn't know jack about tobacco, other than menthol cigs were easy to find a buy 1 get 1 deal on lol. Didn't learn about tobacco until I started vaping it's flavors instead of burning it.
With NETs, you'll get that tobacco cue. Some available extracted tobaccos are spot on cig, pipe, or cigar. There's a lot out there, and if you subscribe to this thread they all get talked about. In the meantime if you're looking for a spot on cig vape check out this line http://www.naturally-extracted-tobacco.com/category-s/1841.htm
I've only had the Big Spirit, but it's a spot on cigarette tobacco flavor made from American Spirit cigarette tobacco. I look forward to trying more from that line. Pipe and cigar NETs are amazing, but the cig NETs really get down to a straight tobacco flavor that we're used to.
Probably the best example of a pure Cavendish flavor (vape-wise) is N-E-T.com.s. You may want to add extra flavor as I find NET.com's juices a little on the weak side. For most "ex-smoker's" I suggest they look for pure single leaf extract of A Virginia or Burley or Oriental (NOT Latakia tho)
Totally forgot about Amarican Spirit extracts, haven't tried them myself as I'm more "pipe", but they've had good feed-back--good call Jerms.
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Itaste VV3 and Mini protank2 with recoiled cotton wicks. So probably not a heavy hitter for premium taste.. not sure. I have tried a handful of tobaccos.. halo's, bobas bounty, miscellaneous RY4's, 555's, nothing even comes close to what I have in mind.
Not ideal for NETs, but a rebuilt PT2 should still work pretty good. Some NETs are clean and some are dirty, but most build up gunk quicker than synthetic vapes, so the coils need to be taken care of sooner.
The tobaccos you listed are artificially flavored tobaccos. Some love them, some don't, and some people like me are crazy enough to dig all styles of tobacco vapes. NETs is a whole different category of flavor though, so if you don't like the artis the extracted tobaccos may be a better fit for you
I'm going to be very disappointed if that "chemical" taste (actually a soapy taste) is the taste of A+'s tobacco extract.
So far.. I do not dig the arty tobaccos, at all. I have relied mostly on fruity vapes and minty vapes so far, dessert, creamy vapes on occasion, which are great, but I would love one flavorite, satisfying go-to tobacco juice in my arsenal. It doesn't have to be analog-type, just something tasty and deep-rich, not too sweet that my brain says...yes..this is tobacco. I want the tobacco to be the front note and other accompanying flavors to be a less distracting, but enhancing side note.
It's not, not to the majority of us. But it's known that certain people can react in a negative way to a base and taste things most don't, same with any vendor. If that's the case, I'm not thinking it's just the tobacco extract, but maybe all flavors from them would get a similar reaction from you based from the pg, vg and nic they use as a base.
Or you just may not like Ahl's tobaccos. Several people just don't like them. That's why keeping the first order small and stick with samples when possible is always good advice.
I'm still willing to dispose of them for you for just a small fee.
Yeah, there's a lot of NETs that fit those descriptions for us here. Still may not turn out to be your thing.. but if it is.. get that wallet ready because it may turn out to be REALLY your thing.
1. Cliché: taste is subjective.
2. Flavor is very dependent on the delivery device.
That being said, the most satisfying tobacco vape for me is Patriot from GeJ at a high temp (9.5-11w) in a KFL clone. Natural Perique is a close second for me--but it is truly an acquired taste.
Sounds like you might enjoy Heather's Heavenly Vapes: NETs (mostly Cavendish blends) with tobacco and others flavors. Legend (mid-sweet pipe tobacco with cherry notes), Serendpity (mid-sweet pipe tobacco with coffee/black tea notes), Oompa (mid-sweet pipe tobacco with a spicy cocoa), Heavenly ARMY (creamy tobacco with graham, maybe cocoa), Shadow (creamy tobacco with vanilla notes). Huntsman -- woodsy tobacco with maple and honey.
NET.com: GOLD (slightly sweet Virginia), Black Cavendish (smokey with a funk and slight sweetness)
GoodEjuice: ANALOG (cigarette blend of Cavendish and Virginias, mid-sweet full bodied flavor), Acadian GOLD (strong Virginia with a hint of sweetness); Organic #1 (Burley goodness, smoky, hint of sweet and other tempting mystery flavors.
From what you've had, I think HHV would be your best choice in finding the best of both worlds.
It's not, not to the majority of us. But it's known that certain people can react in a negative way to a base and taste things most don't, same with any vendor. If that's the case, I'm not thinking it's just the tobacco extract, but maybe all flavors from them would get a similar reaction from you based from the pg, vg and nic they use as a base.
Or you just may not like Ahl's tobaccos. Several people just don't like them. That's why keeping the first order small and stick with samples when possible is always good advice.
I'm still willing to dispose of them for you for just a small fee.
I got your "small fee" right here.
I'm going to give it some time, if VB, Organic and GJ4 can get even worse over time, it's possible A+ can get that much better.
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If I might expand. The only tobacco vapes that have satisfied me are NETs. I can't think of any NET that I've been satisfied with when vaped in my PT2. I have only gotten good performance of NETs from RDAs and my KFL clone. My PT2 is dedicated to Boba's Bounty (an arti)=something to vape when I'm pre-occupied, but need the nic and smoke. That said, it's possible that some vendor's tobacco e-juices work well in a PT2, but I'll never know as I'm not a fan of vendors whose tobaccos are flavored with Baskin-Robbins flavor of the day. Just isn't my thing.
If I might expand. The only tobacco vapes that have satisfied me are NETs. I can't think of any NET that I've been satisfied with when vaped in my PT2. I have only gotten good performance of NETs from RDAs and my KFL clone. My PT2 is dedicated to Boba's Bounty (an arti)=something to vape when I'm pre-occupied, but need the nic and smoke. That said, it's possible that some vendor's tobacco e-juices work well in a PT2, but I'll never know as I'm not a fan of vendors whose tobaccos are flavored with Baskin-Robbins flavor of the day. Just isn't my thing.
Just to out and out say it ( Jerm's hinted at it )... Beetlebrox and the others you listed are synthetics whether they are using some natural flavorings or not... not NET's ( ie flavors extracted from actual tobacco ). This would explain why you don't get much real tobacco flavor ( at least from the ones listed ).
I'll also mention... don't think that you won't like a sweet tobacco ( although you may not ).. a natural tobacco sweetness in a NET isn't always like a sugar sweetness... of course there are NET's with cherry, blueberry, maple, honey and others as well... of the ones I liked most, the added flavor usually takes a back seat to the tobacco and just enhances it, not always, but often that is the case.
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