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2 weeks in 30ml glass bottles IMO is not nearly enough time for those. Glass bottles allow no air in, so steeping will be very slow. If you seperated the juice into 3 10ml soft plastic bottles it will greatly speed things up, and shaking daily will help.

Thanks. I got a couple HHV plastic bottles I can rinse out, relabel and start a steep cycle like that. Hope they improve.
 

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Thanks. I got a couple HHV plastic bottles I can rinse out, relabel and start a steep cycle like that. Hope they improve.

I'm sure they will get at least stronger tasting. Those squishy plastic bottles allow some air to pass through them. Large amount of juice in glass bottles is good for keeping them fresh, but not for steeping. I always transfer from glass to plastic anyways to make dripping easier. You still may not like them after a couple weeks, but at least you'll get the intended flavor. I hope they do work for ya though, since Ahl has a big selection of flavored mild tobaccos that you can get in high vg. Like you found out from Gandalf, magic can happen after proper aging!

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Scarf, have you tried the Ravyn more recently? It's changed quite a bit from last week, most of the really off funkiness is gone, and I can actually taste the tobacco, and perhaps a hint of blackberry now. Hope you have some left to evaluate it again! Still not my favorite by any stretch, but reminds me now of other NETs I've tried pretty recently.
 

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Scarf, have you tried the Ravyn more recently? It's changed quite a bit from last week, most of the really off funkiness is gone, and I can actually taste the tobacco, and perhaps a hint of blackberry now. Hope you have some left to evaluate it again! Still not my favorite by any stretch, but reminds me now of other NETs I've tried pretty recently.

After reading this I decided to give it a quick whiff. Wow, what a difference. The funk smell is almost all gone. I've never had a juice get less funky as it aged. It smells.. amazing. No chemical, alcohol, or off notes. It smells just very slightly of the caramel smell that was strong before. Moreso, alongside the tobacco, yes a berry note. Kind of a bright, sweet fruit scent that, as you said, reminds me very much of blackberry. I'm actually pretty shocked at how much the scent has changed, before it was kind of rank and now it's fairly crisp with a snuff tobacco smell. Definately gonna start vaping it this weekend.

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It still tastes of barbecue sauce to me.:(

Aww that's too bad, lol well I do see what you mean, has a tangy savory flavor in a way, but definitely for my bottle, has evolved! Sorry yours hasn't come around Scarf!

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Scarf, have you tried the Ravyn more recently? It's changed quite a bit from last week, most of the really off funkiness is gone, and I can actually taste the tobacco, and perhaps a hint of blackberry now. Hope you have some left to evaluate it again! Still not my favorite by any stretch, but reminds me now of other NETs I've tried pretty recently.

Carbon! Same thing, funkiness is gone and getting a nice tobacco flavor and I'm right there with you on the blackberries.


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After reading this I decided to give it a quick whiff. Wow, what a difference. The funk smell is almost all gone. I've never had a juice get less funky as it aged. It smells.. amazing. No chemical, alcohol, or off notes. It smells just very slightly of the caramel smell that was strong before. Moreso, alongside the tobacco, yes a berry note. Kind of a bright, sweet fruit scent that, as you said, reminds me very much of blackberry. I'm actually pretty shocked at how much the scent has changed, before it was kind of rank and now it's fairly crisp with a snuff tobacco smell. Definately gonna start vaping it this weekend.

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Haha, who said blackberries weeks ago? This guy!


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I'd like to ask for some input from some of the more experienced NET Hunters, but I must state first; If you think Ahlusion is the Holy Grail of all E-Liquids, you might want to skip this posting.
I've started into some two-week steeped Non-Areomatics. I steeped these in a way I believe Wlad would recommend- Caps off for no more than 10 minutes at a time, shaken well daily. A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT. I read where these are extracted from Cavendish Tobaccos, but so far I'm not convinced. Maple House Blend- Nothing. Like Vaping air. Gold Rising- reminds me of the Lemon Pledge Polish I used to use on my Patent Leather Dress Shoes in the USNavy. I also ordered some sweet/bakery vapes, and they are weak. Good but weak.
Here's where I need some help; These are the first liquids I've ever gotten in glass bottles. How does the glass bottle effect Flavor and / or Steeping ? If worse come to worse, can I still Certify through PayPal and go on Classifieds here ?:p

I've been waiting for this post. I hope they evolve more to your liking.


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I may have to thaw some pork chops if I'm going to vape it tomorrow, I loves me some bbq poke chops.

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thanks for makeing me remember that i need to get a tank refill for my grill....and some new wood chips to smoke some pork chops....my dad has a farm,and i think they killed a few pigs a while back to have them butchered..so ill go steal some chops tomorrow from his old ...
 

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To chime in with Jerms, CarbonThief, TheCatsPajamas, and Scarfy, I resampled my AiV Ravyn this morning. I've been doing that every week since my initial review back on January 26th. This is going on three weeks of steeping and is my third visit with Ravyn. The first was odd, the secon slightly disturbing, and this sampling is a bit more optimistic.

The difference this time seems to be what I might call greater clarity, which is my way of agreeing that some of the disturbing funkiness is diminishing. Also, I notice that the blackberry, which was only a hint when fresh---a hint strong enough to be noticeable and written about, which I did, but still only a hint---is now a definite flavor. The blackberry has bloomed and broadened. It's now melding with whatever the other flavors are, essentially taking charge of the juice's identity.

I'm reminded of my reaction to HHV's NET hybrids when they first appeared. Gandalf (now Legend) was so unexpected, a real game-changer. I loved it for quite awhile, although my ardor cooled somewhat later. Ravyn hits me as similarly unexpected. Nothing like GeJ NETs, which impress me almost entirely as straight tobacco flavors (I enjoy them for that very quality of pure tobacco). Instead, like HHV, Ravyn's flavor profile ranges far afield from tobacco. The difference for me between Ravyn and the HHV NETs is that HHV's are complex hybrids that inspire instant pleasure (witness their huge popularity). Ravyn is complicated rather than complex, and not as immediately pleasing (at least not to me). I love some of AiV's juices---Lemon Loves Cakes and Berry Lil' Cheesecake are to die for---but I'm not sure that I like Ravyn.

That's not meant as slam. I loved Gandalf at first. Now I just like it. I don't love Ravyn, but who knows how I'll feel in six months? It's a different journey.
 

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To chime in with Jerms, CarbonThief, TheCatsPajamas, and Scarfy, I resampled my AiV Ravyn this morning. I've been doing that every week since my initial review back on January 26th. This is going on three weeks of steeping and is my third visit with Ravyn. The first was odd, the secon slightly disturbing, and this sampling is a bit more optimistic.

The difference this time seems to be what I might call greater clarity, which is my way of agreeing that some of the disturbing funkiness is diminishing. Also, I notice that the blackberry, which was only a hint when fresh---a hint strong enough to be noticeable and written about, which I did, but still only a hint---is now a definite flavor. The blackberry has bloomed and broadened. It's now melding with whatever the other flavors are, essentially taking charge of the juice's identity.

I'm reminded of my reaction to HHV's NET hybrids when they first appeared. Gandalf (now Legend) was so unexpected, a real game-changer. I loved it for quite awhile, although my ardor cooled somewhat later. Ravyn hits me as similarly unexpected. Nothing like GeJ NETs, which impress me almost entirely as straight tobacco flavors (I enjoy them for that very quality of pure tobacco). Instead, like HHV, Ravyn's flavor profile ranges far afield from tobacco. The difference for me between Ravyn and the HHV NETs is that HHV's are complex hybrids that inspire instant pleasure (witness their huge popularity). Ravyn is complicated rather than complex, and not as immediately pleasing (at least not to me). I love some of AiV's juices---Lemon Loves Cakes and Berry Lil' Cheesecake are to die for---but I'm not sure that I like Ravyn.

That's not meant as slam. I loved Gandalf at first. Now I just like it. I don't love Ravyn, but who knows how I'll feel in six months? It's a different journey.

Awesome re-review Bill, thanks for your input, and likewise glad you are noticing the change as well.

I, like you do not love Ravyn, however, at this part of it's journey, I do already like it and am hopeful it continues to change for the better. This may be it's peak for me though, but we'll see!
 

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Nice. I get the idea you really like this juice.

Just ordered some Apache, Pendragon, and Sunday Morning. Not a lot, just samplers. First time for me and MOV juices.

I just reviewed the new Apache from Mountain Oak Vapors

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...eviews/379618-mountain-oak-vapors-apache.html

while similar to Want2Vape London and Ahlusion Devil Dog it is cleaner on your hardware and less intense in approach. The first English pipe all day vape for me
 
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