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I decided to finally re-visit the 4 juice's I'd gotten with Lataka in them again that I was having issues accepting... the 4 were 2 from want2vape, Pure Smoke and Vapenstein Paris... and 2 from Moutain Oak Vapors, Country Gentleman and Apache.

I believe that I'm going to move on from them, at least for now. The Lataka notes have finally smoothed out and are not nearly as much "in your face" as they started. I can certainly see why others do like them, their sweet, dark, earthy/woodsy and smoky flavor are interesting to taste. Still, they are not the direction I'm looking for currently. I have another friend I'm going to pass them onto that may find them more to his liking... maybe.

I can't help but think that adding just a touch, not enough to discern but enough to help enhance a darker tobacco juice could help take a juice from good to great. In much the same way that cumin added to a chili or mexican dish... or perhaps a licorice or fennel added to an Italian marinara.. can enhance those foods flavors as long as they aren't in an amount that can be detected directly.
 

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RD, for clarity, and to avoid confusion -- there is no Latakia in those W2V's. The MOV's, yes. I'm not sure if anyone knows what's in Paris (and thus, Pure Smoke), but it surely isn't Latakia. Has anyone gotten the lowdown on that? My guess would be oriental or burley, but it's been quite a while and I don't have any left to revisit.
 

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RD, for clarity, and to avoid confusion -- there is no Latakia in those W2V's. The MOV's, yes. I'm not sure if anyone knows what's in Paris (and thus, Pure Smoke), but it surely isn't Latakia. Has anyone gotten the lowdown on that? My guess would be oriental or burley, but it's been quite a while and I don't have any left to revisit.

I believe the confusion stems from people talking about London with W2V and the Latakia. Many, I believe, more people around here have tried London than the others and maybe we got a little loose with the Latakia talk while not always clarifying that it was London. Maybe?
 

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RD, for clarity, and to avoid confusion -- there is no Latakia in those W2V's. The MOV's, yes. I'm not sure if anyone knows what's in Paris (and thus, Pure Smoke), but it surely isn't Latakia. Has anyone gotten the lowdown on that? My guess would be oriental or burley, but it's been quite a while and I don't have any left to revisit.

I wonder if there's some fire cured tobacco involved in PURE Smoke.

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RD, for clarity, and to avoid confusion -- there is no Latakia in those W2V's. The MOV's, yes. I'm not sure if anyone knows what's in Paris (and thus, Pure Smoke), but it surely isn't Latakia. Has anyone gotten the lowdown on that? My guess would be oriental or burley, but it's been quite a while and I don't have any left to revisit.

I believe the confusion stems from people talking about London with W2V and the Latakia. Many, I believe, more people around here have tried London than the others and maybe we got a little loose with the Latakia talk while not always clarifying that it was London. Maybe?

If I'm wrong... then it is from something with the exact same flavor profile... I didn't get it from what I've read about what others have said on others... I got it from tasting the same thing in each... as right or wrong as that may be

If it's a Burley... it's not one I've had before... of course GeJ Patriot and MOV Pendragon are the only two I'm sure of with that... GeJ Wild Turkey doesn't have that taste and is the only one I can think of that I know has Turkish ( Oriental ) in it... so my experience is limited...

.... but, but, but.... I'm always right :D...
 

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Could be, Jerms. It (Paris) is supposed to emulate a high quality European cig. It could have a flue- or fire-cured Virginia in there, but I don't remember it speaking to me with a Virginian accent. :D Again, too far removed, and none around to revisit.

Yeah haven't spent enough time with Smoke to really get a handle on the tobacco side of it. There does seem to be a smokiness, but different than the smoky flavor from Latakia. Can't tell if it's a result of fire cured Virginia or the TA that's probably in it, which I have little experience with.

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Ok... in my defense ( a weak one since I don't know about the reviewer ).... I did find another review that mentioned Lataka ( or ? Latakia, I was previously corrected from Latika to Lataka... now with Latakia, I'm uncertain which is correct ) in regards to it being in Paris ... Want 2 Vape Vapenstein Paris review by SNAKE - Electronic Cigarette Forums - Ecig Advanced

Obviously I think I'm tasting this correctly... but my lack of experience level with different tobacco's means I won't be embarrassed if I'm wrong and it makes for a somewhat interesting discussion then if nothing else.
 

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I haven't tried Paris, but European cigarettes often contain dark fire cured tobacco, and Latakia is also fire cured in a way, so they would both have a wood smoked flavor but are not the same tobacco. It is spelled Latakia...with an i.

If tobacco education were guns or ammo... I'm an unarmed man then... :D So I can only pass on what I THINK I'm tasting.

I'm going to have to search back to see who it was that told me it was spelled "Lataka"... it may make for a short quick fun tease... but not tonight... bedtime for me... g'nite all.
 

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Ok... in my defense ( a weak one since I don't know about the reviewer ).... I did find another review that mentioned Lataka ( or ? Latakia, I was previously corrected from Latika to Lataka... now with Latakia, I'm uncertain which is correct ) in regards to it being in Paris ... Want 2 Vape Vapenstein Paris review by SNAKE - Electronic Cigarette Forums - Ecig Advanced

Obviously I think I'm tasting this correctly... but my lack of experience level with different tobacco's means I won't be embarrassed if I'm wrong and it makes for a somewhat interesting discussion then if nothing else.

It's okay to figure this out openly. Contrary to popular belief, 99% of the people around here are really helpful and just interested in making it so NET vapers are properly informed with what is likely expected with this niche category of flavors.
 

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Vendor: Vaperoo
Liquid: Roobacco
Thoughts: Best approximation of a pipe tobacco that I have tried, they seem to constantly be backordered on it though, whatever they use for ingredients is apparently not in high supply.

Never heard of that vendor. I thought it was an Australian vendor at first because of the name lol, but looking it up I see it's a Cali based store. Do you get that online or at their store? The site for them is under construction but with the words pipe tobacco you got my interest. Do you know if an artificial tobacco or an extracted tobacco?

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If tobacco education were guns or ammo... I'm an unarmed man then... :D So I can only pass on what I THINK I'm tasting.

I just looked into it and original Gauloises tobacco is dark fired Virginia. I'm just assuming that's what Vapenstein Paris is modeled on.

If it makes you feel any better, as far as I can recall from my RYO days, you were pretty much spot-on with your original "horse iodine" description.:D
 

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Never heard of that vendor. I thought it was an Australian vendor at first because of the name lol, but looking it up I see it's a Cali based store. Do you get that online or at their store? The site for them is under construction but with the words pipe tobacco you got my interest. Do you know if an artificial tobacco or an extracted tobacco?

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It's a local store here in San Diego. The owner Mark makes all the Vaperoo brand Juice himself. Definitely no extracted tobaccos. Most stores I've gone into selling my drip tips aren't really up on the Natural tobacco game. In fact many are leery of it and think that it is contains harmful elements of the tobacco or that it too closely resembles actual smoking and makes it harder to get off analogs, whatever, lol. Mark also sells a couple other brands of juice. He has one he makes called Asian Blend that tastes exactly like Halo Tribeca.




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not a cig, just a decent tobacco flavored juice. something better than Halo Prime 15. this is the Natural Tobbacco thread, right? all i hear is people going on about ice cream, chocolate, and dirty pipe flavors. i want the best tobacco flavor.

Patriot - Goodejuice
Blue Grass Burley- Ahlusion
Dark Horse- Heathers Heavenly Vapes

I have vaped more Patriot than any other eliquid. BGB is my favorite tobacco eliquid period. Dark Horse is a very straight up tobacco flavor but on the milder side. I think these will all spark some serious interest.


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Got a fresh 30 ml of Blue Grass Burkey today. Nothing compares to this liquid straight out of the mail. Dusty this would be considered my 5 star e-liquid hands down. God I love this stuff!!!!!! This is the best damn eliquid known to man and if you disagree you are wrong, lol. J/k


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If tobacco education were guns or ammo... I'm an unarmed man then... :D So I can only pass on what I THINK I'm tasting.

I'm going to have to search back to see who it was that told me it was spelled "Lataka"... it may make for a short quick fun tease... but not tonight... bedtime for me... g'nite all.

Here you go, RD. Let me help you out:

It's Latakia. (Do MOV's typos bother anyone else? :laugh:) Also, there's no Latakia in Vapenstein Paris, rest assured.

Good catch.... I did copy MOV's spelling even just so I was getting it right :facepalm: Can't win them all I guess.

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I can second the Kanger recommendations... I've been vaping juices from MVJ, CravinV, GeJ, HHV and MOV in them without issues. I've been using the Evod's which are only 1.5ml but the replacement coil/heads are going for about $1.50-$2.00. I also got the ProTank on Monday and am having equally good results but all I've vaped in it so far are HHV's Legend ( 1 tank ) and 2 tankfuls of Serendipity....

If I recall... Scarf-ace didn't have the same luck with the T-3 ( or MT-3... same thing basically ) but I don't recall which juices she was vaping in it ( them )...


I use these at work, but not with NET's. I think if you compare a tobacco in a T3/Evod to the same juice in a good dripping atty, you'll notice the huge difference right away. I like bottom feeders, which give me the good atty taste without the mess of dripping. The more subtle elements of the NETs are lost in those clearos.
 
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