Natural Tobaccos

[TheCatsPajamas]

No more or no less than what is in the tobacco itself. I wouldn't consider BGB dry or devoid of sweetness--of course there is some sweetness to the leaf itself--but there is no added sugar or anything like that. A lot of pipe tobaccos do have added sugar, but this juice has a natural level of sweetness that registers, for me, at a 4-5 on a scale from 1-10.

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[johni]

Was surfing the forum looking for a natural, strong tasting tobacco ejuice... Guess i got to try this one. Most juices I find to sweet though... What's the sugar level in this one like?


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dakrido, if you want a strong natural tobacco, Blue Grass Burley is certainly that. Very realistic, you can close your eyes and imagine you're smoking. Be forwarned, if you have not tried extracted tobaccos before, this juice will be much different than what you've vaped previously. Read the warning on Ahlusion's website before ordering.

 

[Jerms]

No more or no less than what is in the tobacco itself. I wouldn't consider BGB dry or devoid of sweetness--of course there is some sweetness to the leaf itself--but there is no added sugar or anything like that. A lot of pipe tobaccos do have added sugar, but this juice has a natural level of sweetness that registers, for me, at a 4-5 on a scale from 1-10.

Really? I haven't had BGB since I first got it but I remember it being very dry, a 1 or 2 on your scale. Of course it was my first aro, and probably the first juice I had without any sweetness added.

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[dakrido]

In fact i still have a whole lot of sealed tins of pipe tobacco's that i thought of using to make some juice myself. Haven't tried any extracted tobacco juices yet. If you all have a site / brand you can suggest I'll sure place an order.
I used to ( and occasionally still do) smoke mainly stronger tobacco's in my pipes such as Cornell and Diehl's pirate kake, which is an extremely strong latakia baccy. But i'm also a fan of the fuller, fiery virginia's, Perique and occasionally Burley tobacco. In a pipe I don't mind a sweet smoke, as long as it's natural sugar from the leaves, and that's what im looking for in an ejuice too.
I recently tried latakia ejuices, but all the ones i've bought just taste realllll bad compared to the "real" thing.... Way to sweet and way to artificial. I really have to find a decent replacement if i want to keep the number of pipes per day down...


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[Jerms]

In fact i still have a whole lot of sealed tins of pipe tobacco's that i thought of using to make some juice myself. Haven't tried any extracted tobacco juices yet. If you all have a site / brand you can suggest I'll sure place an order.
I used to ( and occasionally still do) smoke mainly stronger tobacco's in my pipes such as Cornell and Diehl's pirate kake, which is an extremely strong latakia baccy. But i'm also a fan of the fuller, fiery virginia's and even burleys. In a pipe I don't mind a sweet tobacco, as long as it's natural sugar from the leaves, and that's what im looking for in an ejuice too.
Any lately thought trying latakia ejuices, but all the ones i've bought just tastes like realllll bad compared to it. Way to sweet and way to artificial. I really have to find a decent replacement if i want to keep the number of pipes per day down...


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Lot's of great pipe blends in the NET world. Some of the stronger pipe options with no added sweetness are Devil Dog and Blue Grass Burley from Ahlusion; London and Louisville from Want2Vape; Apache and Southern Gentleman from Mountain Oak Vapor, Fire-Cured and Patriot from GoodeJuice.

Do you like Cavendish tobaccos with added sweetness or flavors?

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[Cnew]

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Your English is great! Are you French or just over there?

 

[Mr.Mann]

Really? I haven't had BGB since I first got it but I remember it being very dry, a 1 or 2 on your scale. Of course it was my first aro, and probably the first juice I had without any sweetness added.

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I should have made it clearer that the scale was 1-10 for straight-up NETs (not hybrids) and not a "no sweetness to high fructose corn syrup! scale." LOL! I would put Devil Dog at a 2-3 and maybe Organic Tobacco #1 at a 2 (from what I remember of OT#1). I read that the varying curing processes of different tobaccos is what transforms certain compounds into sugars; and some tobaccos are just sweetened after the fact. Now, of course, some vendors that are extracting from pre-flavored pipe tobaccos are going to necessarily have sweeter juices due to the added flavorings; but, some tobaccos, due to the curing, will have their own level of sweetness that may, almost, assert itself as "sweetened" when it very well may not be. Fire-curing is supposed to produce a low level of sweetness, but I think Fire-Cured from GeJ is about a 5-6 on the sweetness scale of straight-up NETs. We also must remember that the VG in the juice is also going to lend itself to, if not amplify, the sweetness of a lot of NETs. Seeing as how there aren't many straight PG NETs, most will have some level of sweetness, if not for just the VG.

As an aside, I think the one vendor that produces many NETs that are 1-2 is W2V. Hardly any actual sweetness to those. I think Paris is a 1 on my sacle. Hopefully that gives an indication of how my scale works. What would be a 10 for a straight-up NET? Don't know that I've had it, but it will likely be pre-sweetened.

 

[Mr.Mann]

In fact i still have a whole lot of sealed tins of pipe tobacco's that i thought of using to make some juice myself. Haven't tried any extracted tobacco juices yet. If you all have a site / brand you can suggest I'll sure place an order.
I used to ( and occasionally still do) smoke mainly stronger tobacco's in my pipes such as Cornell and Diehl's pirate kake, which is an extremely strong latakia baccy. But i'm also a fan of the fuller, fiery virginia's and even burleys. In a pipe I don't mind a sweet tobacco, as long as it's natural sugar from the leaves, and that's what im looking for in an ejuice too.
Any lately thought trying latakia ejuices, but all the ones i've bought just tastes like realllll bad compared to it. Way to sweet and way to artificial. I really have to find a decent replacement if i want to keep the number of pipes per day down...


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Hey, welcome to the right place! LOL

 

[rdsok]

I think the one vendor that produces many NETs that are 1-2 is W2V. Hardly any actual sweetness to those. I think Paris is a 1 on my sacle. Hopefully that gives an indication of how my scale works. What would be a 10 for a straight-up NET? Don't know that I've had it, but it will likely be pre-sweetened.

Ok... that settles it ... I'm officially loony or someone must have switched something else and labeled it as Paris on my order

I actually thought mine was sweet in a tobacco leaf sort of way.... I wonder if I'm getting that from how smooth and/or earthy it is. Anyway, I didn't find it dry and the sweetness was one of the aspects that I did enjoy about it...

 

[Mr.Mann]

Ok... that settles it ... I'm officially loony or someone must have switched something else and labeled it as Paris on my order

I actually thought mine was sweet in a tobacco leaf sort of way.... I wonder if I'm getting that from how smooth and/or earthy it is. Anyway, I didn't find it dry and the sweetness was one of the aspects that I did enjoy about it...

You sayin' Paris waas "sweet?" Wow, I thought it tasted like a well worn leather...but more leathery than that! LOL. I did love that juice, though. 510 drippers be careful!

 

[rdsok]

You sayin' Paris waas "sweet?" Wow, I thought it tasted like a well worn leather...but more leathery than that! LOL. I did love that juice, though. 510 drippers be careful!

In only the same way that a tobacco leaf would be a bit on the sweet side... certainly not as if a sweetener was added or extracted from a sweet type of cavendish.

I do remember your post about it being leathery... I didn't get that myself.

 

[dakrido]

Your English is great! Are you French or just over there?

Thanks, In fact Dutch, but I live in France... And I just re-read my post, and see my spelling mistakes... But hey, it's almost 3 am on this side if the ocean


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[dakrido]

I should have made it clearer that the scale was 1-10 for straight-up NETs (not hybrids) and not a "no sweetness to high fructose corn syrup! scale." LOL! I would put Devil Dog at a 2-3 and maybe Organic Tobacco #1 at a 2 (from what I remember of OT#1). I read that the varying curing processes of different tobaccos is what transforms certain compounds into sugars; and some tobaccos are just sweetened after the fact. Now, of course, some vendors that are extracting from pre-flavored pipe tobaccos are going to necessarily have sweeter juices due to the added flavorings; but, some tobaccos, due to the curing, will have their own level of sweetness that may, almost, assert itself as "sweetened" when it very well may not be. Fire-curing is supposed to produce a low level of sweetness, but I think Fire-Cured from GeJ is about a 5-6 on the sweetness scale of straight-up NETs. We also must remember that the VG in the juice is also going to lend itself to, if not amplify, the sweetness of a lot of NETs. Seeing as how there aren't many straight PG NETs, most will have some level of sweetness, if not for just the VG.

As an aside, I think the one vendor that produces many NETs that are 1-2 is W2V. Hardly any actual sweetness to those. I think Paris is a 1 on my sacle. Hopefully that gives an indication of how my scale works. What would be a 10 for a straight-up NET? Don't know that I've had it, but it will likely be pre-sweetened.

Mr.mann, very true what you're writing about the natural sugars in pipe tobacco. There's a great interview with blender G.L. pease in http://pipedia.org/wiki/Pipe_Tobaccos that explains a lot about pipe tobacco's.


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[Mr.Mann]

Mr.mann, very true what you're writing about the natural sugars in pipe tobacco. There's a great interview with blender G.L. pease in Pipe Tobaccos - Pipedia that explains a lot about pipe tobacco's.


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Thanks for the link. I will read it...now.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Mr.mann, very true what you're writing about the natural sugars in pipe tobacco. There's a great interview with blender G.L. pease in Pipe Tobaccos - Pipedia that explains a lot about pipe tobacco's.


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Great interview.

 

[Jerms]

Great interview.

I learned a few things. Especially about Perique and Latakia, and how most pipe tobaccos have some degree of flavoring or casing added.

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[Mr.Mann]

I learned a few things. Especially about Perique and Latakia, and how most pipe tobaccos have some degree of flavoring or casing added.

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Yup. That was the big take-away for me as well. Okay, now off to question the big W.

 

[Cnew]

Thanks, In fact Dutch, but I live in France... And I just re-read my post, and see my spelling mistakes... But hey, it's almost 3 am on this side if the ocean


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Welcom! Ik spreek geen Nederlands

I do have some Salmiakki e liquid, though! Sorry, but it is only 6 mg. I know you can get it over there far more easily than here. However, if you are interested, I would be happy to share! Just send a PM.

Tot ziens!

 

[Dusty_D]

Round 2 of testing done. Includes Cravin Vapes, GeJ and a couple from HOL..

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3sbe_3-bBbcWEszajBBUUoxT2s/edit?usp=sharing

G'night in here!

 

[Jerms]

Round 2 of testing done. Includes Cravin Vapes, GeJ and a couple from HOL..

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B3sbe_3-bBbcWEszajBBUUoxT2s/edit?usp=sharing

G'night in here!

Cool man, glad to see you're finding some you really like. Wrangler really does nail down that quality light cig flavor. I don't share your love for House of Liquid's Puros, but I'm a minority with that one just not working for me. Still have most of the bottle for it to win me over. For your info you can put 24mg nic for Puros. Virginia Prime from them I'm vaping right now, and shares the top spot along with Eden for me. Definately pick up some VP if you order from them, awesome leafy pure Virginia tobacco flavor.

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