I should've told you to try EVERYTHING else beofre those three juices! While there may be more tasty or flavorED juices, I don't think there are many more that carry the impact as those. Next stop, Louisville and Blue Grass Burley town.
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I should've told you to try EVERYTHING else beofre those three juices! While there may be more tasty or flavorED juices, I don't think there are many more that carry the impact as those. Next stop, Louisville and Blue Grass Burley town.
I take Apache to work with me most days but usually don't vape it until afternoon. Sawdust, insulation, solvent odors etc. in my work can make a less flavorful juice lose it's impact after a while. Apache is bold enough (and I like it enough) that it solves that problem. I can vape it for extended periods and enjoy it even on bad taste bud days!
Devil Dog is newer to me and in a smaller bottle so I've been keeping it at home and find I reach for it often when I'm on this forum or in a contemplative mood. The Dog always just hits the spot and scratches an itch few juices can touch if that makes sense.
All of my GEJs are pre-reformulation, so you and Johni may very well be correct about the current range. I am at a loss to taste any cocoa in my WL. (I wish!)
I read this thread from the beginning so I did try almost everything before these three. Started with some of the milder stuff and progressed to gruffier on purpose. My list of NETs that I want to try isn't all that long now.
It has been almost painful at times vaping up some juices that were mediocre (to me) when you have better stuff steeping. I'm following your lead of paying it forward. Easier on my buds!
Higher the VG the better for HV IMO,the thicker juices can take the heat better.I don't get no acrid flavor.For example AVE's Boba's non-net (100%vg)I like better at HV taste a little more like tobacco.
I think it was Nate Dogg that said, "It ain't no fun, if your homies can't have none!"
I am with you, Dale. I can take Boba's or VCV (which is no PG) to 5.0v on a 2.2Ω atty before I could, say, Smokeless Image RY4 which is practically, if not all, PG. I always thought all PG did better with lower wattage?! Diff'rent tokes for diff'rent folks.
5.5 - 6.0 watts for me Dust. Told you folks I like it cool.
And I hate to be the one to bring this up, but sometimes it is worth repeating for the newer vapers who join the thread. Allow me to burst your bubble but it is the hard facts and you need to know.
1) If you're looking for Marlboro, you wont find it. There are some that kinda, sorta hit the edges, but nothing ever hits the bullseye.
2) The sad fact is, in most cases (and it is generally accepted), you will have to steep your NETs for some length of time before they are dialed in. Yes, there are exceptions but they are few and far between. Steep times from 1 week to 3 months is the standard. So when you say you are not the type to wait around, then you are either going to have to change your ways or give up vaping. With proper planning, you can get around this.
Sorry to be the bearer of disappointing, but factual information.
And I hate to be the one to bring this up, but sometimes it is worth repeating for the newer vapers who join the thread. Allow me to burst your bubble but it is the hard facts and you need to know.
1) If you're looking for Marlboro, you wont find it. There are some that kinda, sorta hit the edges, but nothing ever hits the bullseye.
2) The sad fact is, in most cases (and it is generally accepted), you will have to steep your NETs for some length of time before they are dialed in. Yes, there are exceptions but they are few and far between. Steep times from 1 week to 3 months is the standard. So when you say you are not the type to wait around, then you are either going to have to change your ways or give up vaping. With proper planning, you can get around this.
Sorry to be the bearer of disappointing, but factual information.
Wanna know how big a Game of Thrones tragic I am? I have started saying "DRACARYS" before dry-burning my attys
Here's one for you, Khaleesi (NSFW):
As for the wattage question, my sweet spot is 8.5 watts. Of course it depends on the juice, but 8.5 usually does it for me. Sometimes I go as low as 7 and rarely go above 10.
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5.5-6 watts come on Bronze I can't tell I'm even vaping at that range5.5 - 6.0 watts for me Dust. Told you folks I like it cool.
And I hate to be the one to bring this up, but sometimes it is worth repeating for the newer vapers who join the thread. Allow me to burst your bubble but it is the hard facts and you need to know.
1) If you're looking for Marlboro, you wont find it. There are some that kinda, sorta hit the edges, but nothing ever hits the bullseye.
2) The sad fact is, in most cases (and it is generally accepted), you will have to steep your NETs for some length of time before they are dialed in. Yes, there are exceptions but they are few and far between. Steep times from 1 week to 3 months is the standard. So when you say you are not the type to wait around, then you are either going to have to change your ways or give up vaping. With proper planning, you can get around this.
Sorry to be the bearer of disappointing, but factual information.
5.5-6 watts come on Bronze I can't tell I'm even vaping at that range
Anything higher tastes burnt to me. Flavorless at best. Sorry bud.
That is interesting, I find Bobba turns acrid and awful at anything above 9 watts. I wonder why that is. I am surprised at this. I also found the same with BWB's VG juices (I think they are all VG at BWB).
5.5-6 watts come on Bronze I can't tell I'm even vaping at that range
Anything higher tastes burnt to me. Flavorless at best. Sorry bud.
This probably is due to the MOD voltage type ( normal or PWM ) and the JDS being used. In addition on the PWM Mod's, there are two types of measurements ( AFAIK ) that are available, the first ones were set to average the voltage and appeared to be higher than the normal voltage types, the later ones have been changes to RMS ( root mean square ) and vape more like the normal voltage types. Luckily... they never introduced PMPO as the marketers had with speakers and amps...
From the BWB web site: "All of our e-liquids are 70% PG & 30% VG, with the exception of Malty and Malty Toffee, which are 70% VG and 30% PG. Custom ratios are not available."
Could be alot of things setup your using personal preference...now for me HV is what I like without it would probably be smoking.I also think tobacco juices taste better at HV and that is what I'm vaping 99% of the time
Was it Nate Dogg or Snoop Doggy dog?
I dare you to quote the rest of the lyrics of that song on this thread
I dare you to quote the rest of the lyrics of that song on this thread
Higher voltage is not really the measure we are speaking about. I sometimes use 6 volts but that is on 4-5 ohm atty's so the wattage is still around the 7-8 watt range, which is moderate. I crank HH357s at about 12 watts (e.g. a 3.0 ohm atty at 6 volts) but I always though the 12 watts was okay with HH357's because the juice is not sitting in a well stewing in the hot atomizer, it's being funneled up from a small well which then hits the hot atomizer and therefore is only exposed to a high wattage coil for less time. That was my amateur theory on why I could get HH357s at 12 volts.
Now I know that BWB is 70/30 thanks to Bill (I could have sworn it used to be all VG but maybe my memory fails me) but I always found NET's from BWB, Vaperite and AVE don't seem to like anything above 9 volts whereas some of the synthetics I used to vape with 80/20 PG could be pushed up to 10-11 volts.
Perhaps what some of the other posters have said is correct - it depends on the setup, whether the mod is set on AFAIK or RMS, in the case of RBAs, the kanthal diameter and maybe even the vaping technique. I can imagine a slow long draw requiring the atomizers to burn longer and heat up more, would result burning a juice than would be a shorter sharper type of draw. I tend to take longer slower draws (unless it's a 357) and I tend to take primer hits, followed by a deeper draw, which is partly a left over of the early days of vaping when you needed to give the atty a prime hit to warm it up before taking a longer main draw. It's also because I like puffing e-cigs like cigars, something I never did when I was a smoker.
Now I know that BWB is 70/30 thanks to Bill (I could have sworn it used to be all VG but maybe my memory fails me) but I always found NET's from BWB, Vaperite and AVE don't seem to like anything above 9 volts whereas some of the synthetics I used to vape with 80/20 PG could be pushed up to 10-11 volts.
Perhaps what some of the other posters have said is correct - it depends on the setup, whether the mod is set on AFAIK or RMS, in the case of RBAs, the kanthal diameter and maybe even the vaping technique. I can imagine a slow long draw requiring the atomizers to burn longer and heat up more, would result burning a juice than would be a shorter sharper type of draw. I tend to take longer slower draws (unless it's a 357) and I tend to take primer hits, followed by a deeper draw, which is partly a left over of the early days of vaping when you needed to give the atty a prime hit to warm it up before taking a longer main draw. It's also because I like puffing e-cigs like cigars, something I never did when I was a smoker.
Could be alot of things setup your using personal preference...now for me HV is what I like without it would probably be smoking.I also think tobacco juices taste better at HV and that is what I'm vaping 99% of the time
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