Natural Tobaccos

[rdsok]

Sigh.

If Vurley and/or Sahara doesn't don't become available for purchase soon, why I'm gonna . . . I'm gonna . . .

I'm gonna hold my breath until I turn BLUE!!!

Say it isn't sooo... lol

I've got Sahara on my short list for the first of the Ahlusion's I'm planning to order... but not Vurley yet but I do plan on visiting it later. I've only got one of the "flavored" ones on the list right now and that's Gold Rising. I've also only have one aromatic on there and that is Blue Grass Burley. The other non-aro's I'm looking at are Desperado, House Blend, and Smooth Criminal.

Vurley and probably Smokin' Cherries will come later. Since I like a bit of coffee with my 'baco... JG will be in there somewhere as well as their two cocoa blended vapes at some point. My own curiosity will also have me trying other flavors that I'm not normally that much into... but probably not DD for a long while.

 

[RPadTV]

I too am anxiously awaiting the return of Sahara and Ahlusion aromatics. Sweet Georgia Peach, Maple Burley, and Smokin' Cherries will be mine! Thankfully, I'm meeting up with Tez tomorrow to try some SGP. Hopefully I don't pass out in the vape shop.

 

[AnthonyB]

Thanks Rdsok, I don't know much about the two modes or even the names of the two modes as it is a fairly new distinction. I lifted it right out of your post and obviously cut and paste the wrong bits haha AFAIK!

Just a minor correction... PWM is either averaged ( AVG ) or RMS... AFAIK is shorthand for "as far as I know"... sorry, my "type a"-ness is showing

 

[AnthonyB]

A few days ago there was some comparisons made between juices for their similarities. Well here is another juice association -

GEJ Congo Craze is a dead ringer for Bobba's Bounty or more specifically, Gorilla Juice!

 

[AnthonyB]

I still do really like AVE and have plenty of their juices left. I too liked Havana Gold along with Blend 4, Raf-a-licious and Gamel. Strangely, Bobba's wasn't one of my favourites bucking the trend with what is arguable the most popular juice out there along with Gandalf/legend from HHV.

When you say dual coil are you referring to carts? If so, I never thought of putting them in carts because they are full VG and way too thick for cartomizers. (I can hear Bill tell me once again that it's 70/30 but I am fairly certain this time that AVE is full VG and as thick as honey).

I am trying to figure out why you can get AVE juices to 11 watts when mine burn acrid at 9. I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that you vape at much higher voltage. Maybe 11 watts at 1.5 ohms is not the same as 11 watts at 5 ohms.

I'm definately not a electronic whiz or claim to be but do understand what u are saying about not comparing apples to apples as far as volts vs. watts and if I'm using a 5ohm atty I'm at 7.4v so my wattage is up there .Also so many different devices makes juices taste different as far as how much heat is generated.

As I said earlier I like it hot some don't but do disagree with u on AVE's juices I use to vape Flue Cured and Havana Gold all the time with a 3ohm dual coil at 7.4v and taste would be superb IMO....

 

[AnthonyB]

I too am noticing some sweetness in Louisville. I got some more sweetness from Louisville in my Phoenix RBA than I did in my Cisco 306 last week. It's such a great juice. I am a real fan of Want2Vape.

I would really love to hear more about Blondie/The Blond which is the premiere Want2Vape juice. Not much has been said about it and I couldn't get my hands on it because Vulcan Vape didn't have it in stock when I put my order in.

I had the same impression from all three actually. though the degree of sweetness varied, all three got at least a hint with Louisville having the most change for me.

 

[dale1962]

I still do really like AVE and have plenty of their juices left. I too liked Havana Gold along with Blend 4, Raf-a-licious and Gamel. Strangely, Bobba's wasn't one of my favourites bucking the trend with what is arguable the most popular juice out there along with Gandalf/legend from HHV.

When you say dual coil are you referring to carts? If so, I never thought of putting them in carts because they are full VG and way too thick for cartomizers. (I can hear Bill tell me once again that it's 70/30 but I am fairly certain this time that AVE is full VG and as thick as honey).

I am trying to figure out why you can get AVE juices to 11 watts when mine burn acrid at 9. I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that you vape at much higher watts. Maybe 11 watts at 1.5 ohms is not the same as 11 watts at 5 ohms.

I don't know what to tell u other than I haved use 2 ohm DC at 6v,3ohm DC at 7.4v with all AVE tobacco juices with good results for me.They were all 100%VG except Raf I think was 90%.Now using there liquids in a single coil carto lower than 4v wasn't good for me...as said before the higher the heat the better there juice worked for me.Refilled DC carts numerous times with good results.BB and GJ not as kind to DC but still lasted quite awhile.

 

[AnthonyB]

I decided to try Patriot in one of those BCC Mega Vapeonly tanks. I don't know what kind of reviews this tank gets and I haven't heard much of it but I got one from an Australian vendor and it made my Copper Creek juice taste amazing. I decided to empty it of the Copper Creek because I was keen to get some Patriot in something that irrefutably was bringing flavour out of my juices.

Well, I don't know what to say but Patriot is DAMN AMAZING in this tank. I am getting woodiness and some cigar like flavour coming through now which I couldn't taste before. I am also getting PLUMES OF VAPOR. This is such a well balanced, medium bodied juice and it tastes just like a fine cuban cigar. It isn't complex or layered like Want2Vape Paris but it is bold, rich, creamy, clean, uncompromising cigar-like flavour. With more vaping I am also picking up some subtle notes that distinctly remind me of the few times I did have a cigar. It's sort of like a subtle oaky tannin like flavour. The exhale is exquisite.

What before was registering to my taste buds like burnt atty is now clearly manifesting itself as that 'moistened Earth', woody, flavoursome cigar like flavour. Maybe my Patriot is finally starting to reach it's peak steeping level.

This is one fine juice. A very wide appealing juice that would satisfy everyone who is looking for a rich cigarette/fine cigar flavour.

There are some cigar like juices like Want2Vape's range and MVJ which I enjoy immensely in a sporadic way during the day, alternating it with sweeter juices like HHV but this Patriot from GEJ could easily be an all day vape and the sort of juice I'd be reaching for first thing in the morning with coffee.

 

[CannedWolf]

I decided to try Patriot in one of those BCC Mega Vapeonly tanks. I don't know what kind of reviews this tank gets and I haven't heard much of it

I quite like the Vapeonly BCCs. The vape is a bit cooler than with a top coil but, like you mentioned, it minimizes the burnt flavor... i actually prefer a bit cooler vape anyway. The draw is just about perfect for me as well which makes things easier all around. I also haven't seen any difference between the Vapeonly branded and the after market branded versions (iSmoka) where I did see a bit of a difference with vivi novas when i first started playing with tanks.

There are a few gotchas with it to keep an eye out for - once your liquid level gets close to the bottom line on the tank, it may start to turn into a juice straw regardless of the charge left in your battery (or your wattage settings if on a vv mod). I usually refill when its between 1/8th and 1/4th to address that. I have also had a few times where, when it is warm outside (or in the apartment for that matter) i can get some leakage on the side where the bottom cap connects to the tank - it is minimal and doesn't seem to be consistent across all of the ones I have but, it has happened twice when it was 85 or warmer for a long-ish period of time in the apartment.

Other than that, I am quite pleased with them and use them regularly along with a few carto tanks and my bottom coil rebuildables (terminator large, regular, and dripper, and penelope clone).

Glad you like them.

And glad you are finding Patriot to your liking as well.

 

[CannedWolf]

Sigh.

If Vurley and/or Sahara doesn't don't become available for purchase soon, why I'm gonna . . . I'm gonna . . .

I'm gonna hold my breath until I turn BLUE!!!

I think its a conspiracy... I think they are becoming available every monday morning for order and someone is out there buying them all up by placing orders for 100 30ml bottles because they know that it is slowing making the rest of us insane.

I have "my people" looking into it.




In more sane news, I am completely with you. Methinks that I will need to order 60ml when they become available just to make sure that there isn't a shortage in the future... or 2X 60ml ordered 2 - 3 weeks apart so when I run out (which will happen), I will have some steeping.

or maybe I'll just get a liter...

 

[CannedWolf]

Sweet Georgia Peach, Maple Burley, and Smokin' Cherries will be mine!

Not if they become mine first. Take THAT Pal!

 

[CannedWolf]

Say it isn't sooo... lol

I've got Sahara on my short list for the first of the Ahlusion's I'm planning to order... but not Vurley yet but I do plan on visiting it later. I've only got one of the "flavored" ones on the list right now and that's Gold Rising. I've also only have one aromatic on there and that is Blue Grass Burley. The other non-aro's I'm looking at are Desperado, House Blend, and Smooth Criminal.

Vurley and probably Smokin' Cherries will come later. Since I like a bit of coffee with my 'baco... JG will be in there somewhere as well as their two cocoa blended vapes at some point. My own curiosity will also have me trying other flavors that I'm not normally that much into... but probably not DD for a long while.

I quite like Desperado... just be sure to let it steep. It is changing quite a bit on me. In another week or so, I'll post an update to my initial impressions.

 

[rdsok]

I am trying to figure out why you can get AVE juices to 11 watts when mine burn acrid at 9. I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that you vape at much higher voltage. Maybe 11 watts at 1.5 ohms is not the same as 11 watts at 5 ohms.

11w @ 1.5 Ω is not the same as 11w @ 5 Ω ... The 5 Ω coil has a longer wire so any one portion of it is cooler than an equivalent length and gauge of wire at the same wattage but lower ohms. In short, the power, which results as heat, is spread out over a bigger area

I don't know what to tell u other than I haved use 2 ohm DC at 6v,3ohm DC at 7.4v with all AVE tobacco juices with good results for me.They were all 100%VG except Raf I think was 90%.Now using there liquids in a single coil carto lower than 4v wasn't good for me...as said before the higher the heat the better there juice worked for me.Refilled DC carts numerous times with good results.BB and GJ not as kind to DC but still lasted quite awhile.

Dual coils are also not the same as a single coil as far as resistance seen on each coil. A dual coil measuring 3 Ω is actually made up of two 6 Ω coils run in parallel so the resistance seen in the circuit is cut in half. Since each coil is only carrying half the load ( as heat or power ) ... they again don't get as hot so you can raise the voltage to use a higher total wattage.

In both scenarios... either a higher ohm coil or using two coils in parallel... you are effectively spreading the heat produced ( represented as wattage ) out over a larger area so that any single point on the coil(s) are actually cooler.

 

[rdsok]

I've got to agree with the others about the recent BCC release's from both VapeOnly and Kanger... they rival the taste of the RBA's enough that I seldom use my RBA's now simply because the BCC's are so much easier to maintain. Both brands allow you to remove ( or add ) a flavor wick to adjust for different PG/VG ratio's or liquid viscosities... My preference is currently leaning in favor of the Kanger Evod and ProTank simply because they both can use the same coil head but Vapeonly now has a smaller BCC which balances out that "argument"

 

[boomerdude]

I have both the EVOD, Protank and Vape Only BCC's. I prefer the EVOD with the Protank a close second. I don't know why the EVOD gives me more flavor compared to the BCC but it does. The Protank is glass and cleans up nicely. I even used it with tobacco extractions that gum up everything else I used. I also use the slim Artemas carto tank for ADV's. Carto replacements cost about the same as the wick replacements for the Kangers. I have 7 different RBA's that I don't use anymore as the flavor is quite muted compared to the BCC's. For taste testing I still use HH357's, Cisco Spec LR510's and 306's. The first 357 I bought last November is still kicking. I'm using up several boxes of Kanger XL HC carts I bought. These HC's are great for those who still use carts. I don't think I'll be purchasing any carts in the future except for the tank replacements.

I've got to agree with the others about the recent BCC release's from both VapeOnly and Kanger... they rival the taste of the RBA's enough that I seldom use my RBA's now simply because the BCC's are so much easier to maintain. Both brands allow you to remove ( or add ) a flavor wick to adjust for different PG/VG ratio's or liquid viscosities... My preference is currently leaning in favor of the Kanger Evod and ProTank simply because they both can use the same coil head but Vapeonly now has a smaller BCC which balances out that "argument"

 

[Mr.Mann]

11w @ 1.5 Ω is not the same as 11w @ 5 Ω ... The 5 Ω coil has a longer wire so any one portion of it is cooler than an equivalent length and gauge of wire at the same wattage but lower ohms. In short, the power, which results as heat, is spread out over a bigger area

Not to belabor this point, but I take simple little 2.2Ω Joye attys, super comfortably, to 5v for 11.36 watts. At 5.1v (11.8 watts) the flavor gets too roasty, but not burnt. It isn't until I try to take them to 5.2v for 12.29 watts (which is too much for those attys) do I actually get legit burnt taste.

All that said, I have had other 2.2Ω (standard) attys that have not been able to get up to 9 watts without frying the juice. No two JDSs (even in the same class) will act exactly the same (in my experience) which is why I never looked into getting and or using VW. I generally push any JDS I have to the upper limits, but those limits (watts) have been different for each.

 

[Jerms]

I would really love to hear more about Blondie/The Blond which is the premiere Want2Vape juice. Not much has been said about it and I couldn't get my hands on it because Vulcan Vape didn't have it in stock when I put my order in.

The Blond is a very unique juice. Very much cigar, but with a lot of herbal and flowery notes from the botanicals infused in an ACID Blondie cigar. A love it or hate it juice. CI Cigar is similar as it's made from a different ACID infused cigar, less flowery but just as unique and intense. I like The Blond a lot and CI Cigar a bit more.

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[CarbonThief]

these GeJ juices are blowing me away, and they haven't even steeped yet. Not a bad one in the bunch I must say.

I will do a more thorough review, promise, when I have more time to spend with them and they have done some amount of steeping, as I can tell the flavors are rather "tight" and with steeping they will separate out and alter their profiles significantly.

I will say though, that GeJ will indeed be getting repeat business from me in the coming months!

 

[CannedWolf]

these GeJ juices are blowing me away, and they haven't even steeped yet. Not a bad one in the bunch I must say.

I will do a more thorough review, promise, when I have more time to spend with them and they have done some amount of steeping, as I can tell the flavors are rather "tight" and with steeping they will separate out and alter their profiles significantly.

I will say though, that GeJ will indeed be getting repeat business from me in the coming months!

I'm quite certain that they already have your package ready... they just need a minute to print the packing label.

 

[CarbonThief]

Would not surprise me in the least!