Natural Tobaccos

[Jerms]

P15 upon awaking. LOL

Hey Mann, I've taken the Turkish from the disappeared vendor I got from you for my working out-of-town carto vape and it's really kickin' it for me this weekend. The flavor's just a mad dog. I haven't had an arti-bacco taste like this, it's more in the league of Paris with a complex funkadelic cig experience.

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[Mr.Mann]

Hey Mann, I've taken the Turkish from the disappeared vendor I got from you for my working out-of-town carto vape and it's really kickin' it for me this weekend. The flavor's just a mad dog. I haven't had an arti-bacco taste like this, it's more in the league of Paris with a complex funkadelic cig experience.

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I really hoped that would work for you. I think Vaporage made artibaccos along the lines, not necessarily in taste but quality, to ePipemods. I still don't know why Vaporage disappeared.

 

[Jerms]

I really hoped that would work for you. I think Vaporage made artibaccos along the lines, not necessarily in taste but quality, to ePipemods. I still don't know why Vaporage disappeared.

Working for me very well. The thickness of the Turkish surprised me when trying to fill a Boge carto. juice just sat on top of the filler, so had to syringe it in. Didn't notice it as a high VG juice when I dripped it for a taste before.

Checking out the status of the epipe sample pack, I see there already sold out of 12mg and 18mg. Hopefully they've restocked when I'm looking to order again. I may just get a few of the 30ml bottles, as the only ones I'm really curious about it are Shire Malt, Long Bottom Leaf, and Granpa's Cough Medicine.

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[Mr.Mann]

Working for me very well. The thickness of the Turkish surprised me when trying to fill a Boge carto. Juice just sat on top of the filler, so had to syringe it in. Didn't notice it as a high VG juice when I dripped it for a taste before.

Checking out the status of the epipe sample pack, I see there already sold out of 12mg and 18mg. Hopefully they've restocked when I'm looking to order again. I may just get a few of the 30ml bottles, as the only ones I'm really curious about it are Shire Malt, Long Bottom Leaf, and Granpa's Cough Medicine.

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People don't play when it comes to their Sauces.

 

[Jerms]

Just saw Vapenstein's post about his former W2V line. Pretty wild, bet there's an interesting story/explaination behind it.

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[scarf-ace]

Just saw Vapenstein's post about his former W2V line. Pretty wild, bet there's an interesting story/explaination behind it.

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Wouldn't we all like to know...

 

[AnthonyB]

If only Dvap was still around.

I actually don't think I was selling anyone short by saying that we didn't appear to have the proper education for the subject you brought up to do it justice... There are a lot here that are ( or at least appear to have .. lol ) a lot of intelligence IMO... just not to speak on this particular subject in any manner other than conjecture. Trying to guess what the ingredients being used is a far cry from saying factually that there is a significant increased chance of developing cancer.

 

[AnthonyB]

You sure have some powers of persuasion Mr Mann. I can't even get most vendors to answer the simple question in email 'do you deliver to Australia?" which requires all of about 5 words to answer.

In related news to today's topic, I spoke with Rich at QuickNic a few days ago about some of his liquids and I got to talking about what I love and don't love about his ouR whY qu4tro. What I love about it is when fresh, it has that rich, fiery and exciting vibe that is rarely, if ever, seen in NET RY4s. What I don't love about the juice is that after a steep, the juice no longer has the exciting-ness that it had when fresh.

What makes that juice so exciting from jumpstreet? His fire-cured tobacco. Well, what about if that liquid didn't have other flavors to compete with? I will soon see. It's not something (as far as I know) that may be offered any time soon, but Rich is going to give it a shot as a singular extraction and let me test it out. I am eager to try his fire-cured liquid going solo.

Also, I wanted to let everyone know that I got an informative response from Beeliquid. They were quite generous with what they told me about their ingredients, extractions and such, but I know wait for another response from them to find out what was off-the-record if anything was.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Just saw Vapenstein's post about his former W2V line. Pretty wild, bet there's an interesting story/explaination behind it.

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Signature Blends (Formerly Vapenstein Blends)

He was cool about it to me, but he didn't leave any room for doubt that he has "nothing to do with that vendor."

It is a bit of a conundrum, yes. It's sad because on one hand, I look up to Dr.V for his insight, and on the other hand, I hold want2vape in such high regard for their line of NETs. I hate that Dr.V now doesn't even "endorse" the line that (supposedly) hasn't changed, but there is always more to the story. Who knows? Then again, we know who knows--the parties involved.

I hope that Dr.V gets back to writing reviews on his site because there is a lot to be reviewed that is worth the time of reviewing. I will alaways read his reviews.

 

[AnthonyB]

I used to really like the Torque56 and then I went off it almost overnight like a mistake lover the following morning.

The Prime 15 though, was my favourite from Halo. Halo's range has expanded since I ordered from them 2 years ago so I am sure they have other juices just as good. That Prime hit all the right spots for a while.

P15 upon awaking. LOL

 

[Mr.Mann]

If only Dvap was still around.

Kurt is still posting. Maybe we could ask him.

You sure have some powers of persuasion Mr Mann. I can't even get most vendors to answer the simple question in email 'do you deliver to Australia?" which requires all of about 5 words to answer.

 

[AnthonyB]

Maybe it's the same reason why Robbie Williams left N-Sync (I hope it's the right band) and why Beyonce left Destiny's Child and why Michael Jackson left The Jackson 5. If it is, I am going where the good doctor is going and buying his solo album. I am completely guessing and have not read the official explanation but if I had his skills I'd be recruiting a web page designer and an online payment system real fast.

Just saw Vapenstein's post about his former W2V line. Pretty wild, bet there's an interesting story/explaination behind it.

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[AnthonyB]

He is, but not with the same frequency. I think his re-emergence was inspired with the recent explosion of discussion on a particular matter in a controversial thread, down in your alleyway somewhere.

However, having said that, if you are able to get a vendor to belch out exactly which of their line is NET, which is TA/TE and which are neither, I reckon you might be able to use the same powers of persuasion to get Dvap to participate.

Maybe for a small fee we can get him to consult the thread on fire cured tobaccos

Kurt is still posting. Maybe we could ask him.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Maybe it's the same reason why Robbie Williams left N-Sync (I hope it's the right band) and why Beyonce left Destiny's Child and why Michael Jackson left The Jackson 5. If it is, I am going where the good doctor is going and buying his solo album. I am completely guessing and have not read the official explanation but if I had his skills I'd be recruiting a web page designer and an online payment system real fast.

From the way it appears on the official explanation, Dr.V was the brains and and Donnley was the hands (maybe). "Consultation" was the word used. It's funny because for it to be strictly "consultation," there sure was a whole lot of credit, though they referred to it as "promotion," given to Dr.V.

Some break-ups hurt.

 

[scarf-ace]

The rest of my Proudest Monkey sample has been transferred to the VMOD. 4.5 mls of sweet flue-cured banana deliciousness.

If, when it runs out, I feel like I absolutely must have some more, I'll be in touch with one of ya's.

 

[AnthonyB]

I just removed a wick from my Evod which is filled with Patriot and now I am getting plumes of Vapor and some subtle grassy notes coming through. I guess removing the wick made all the difference. These evods are wonderful! Just the right draw, not too tight, not too airy, perfectly streamline on the Ego, never leaks, never misses a beat and brings out the best of my NET juices.

Tanks have come a long long way from the days we used to augment our cartridges with pyramid lipton tea bags and our MAP tanks with their horrendous dry hits and finger breaking CE3 replacements!

 

[Mr.Mann]

He is, but not with the same frequency. I think his re-emergence was inspired with the recent explosion of discussion on a particular matter in a controversial thread, down in your alleyway somewhere.

However, having said that, if you are able to get a vendor to belch out exactly which of their line is NET, which is TA/TE and which are neither, I reckon you might be able to use the same powers of persuasion to get Dvap to participate.

Maybe for a small fee we can get him to consult the thread on fire cured tobaccos

As far as Dvap goes, that was like Haley's Comet when he popped up! I do not at all question his sincerity or his motives (he is clearly a decent guy), but I do question how serendipitous his reappearance was. He had spent a couple years away from the forum and had no activity. More debates about WTA have gone on than anyone really would care to recall and his name used to get brought up all the time, but he never appeared. If I was a betting man, which I am not, I would say he received a call on the bat-line when that thread was hopping.

I think Dvap is back to being "mostly retired" which is actually a travesty. The topic has got to be SERIOUSLY intriguing for him to post (IMO). I wish we could Dr.V posting more, but that is also a mixed bag because that dude does NOT play around! LOL. It was cool to get a response from him even if it was to convey some startling information. Those OVs (original vapers) pull no punches--and that's how it should be.

Kurt, on the other hand, has had no real breaks in his posting from what I can see. He has been pretty steady (barely any months off), although not necessarily a conversational poster, for the years he has been here. Once again, this is all from what can be seen according to post history.

 

[shatner]

I just received the green light from Mat to share with you all what is up with what.

Beeliquid uses a maceration of the tobacco in all PG (Like GeJ) for up to 28 days. The "true NETs," as he called them, are tobaccos #2, #3, #4, #5, #8, #9.

The tobaccos #3, #4, #9 are not available yet and #8 will be offered again when the new site goes live.

The current straight NETs actually available from Beeliquid are #2 and #5. Mat was also kind enough to answer my questions about which of his juices contain TA. His TA juices are #7 and #233.

Lastly, there are no sample packs right now, but when the new site goes live, he hopes to have a formerly offered 5 x 5 mL sample pack for $20.

p.s. Like most NET vendors, the filtration process is proprietary, but he promises the liquids are "very well filtered." I was almost relieved that his filtration process was secret--it kind of put him in good company. LOL

I, for one, really hope a sampler is offered. Even thought it's single leaf extraction (I really have no idea what that means-just that the juice is less complex, which is ok for me]) I'm very curious to try his brews. Especially now that it's out that they're very well filtered.

The name #233 got me excited because I'm a total firearm dork and I misread it as 223.

 

[shatner]

Got my HHV order in the mail today. Sludge, PB, HA, and DF are all steeping away now. Oh, I also ordered a VAMO for my first mod purchase today. Excited to try it out, although I wasn't able to convince my wife completely on the purchase, so the batteries and charger will have to wait until another paycheck I'm afraid. This also probably means that Monday is a no-go on ordering some of the Ahlusion tobaccos...

I think my next purchase will be the batt's and charger, a rebuildable of some sorts, wick and wire, and HOPEFULLY some of the Ahlusion tobaccos when there is some in stock. I have been vaping non-stop on Legend and Serendipity the past two days (sadly the 'Dipity ran out tonight) and I am finding it hard to decide which I like more between Legend and PB. At least that is the problem I am having instead of deciding what to do with a bunch of juice I don't like.

I received my HHV order about 2 days ago. 7 tobaccos: Legend, Oompa, Serendipity, Dark Horse, Dragon's Fire, Huntsman, and Heavenly Army. After steeping overnight, I had to dig into at least one, so I chose HA.

That hit me just right, the vapor is unreal, great TH, and the creaminess and flavors just satisfy me. I had to refill my Protank and couldn't stop chain-vaping it until the MVP died. HA is the perfect balance of tobacco and dessert, both complimenting each other.

Tonight, while awaiting the recharge on the MVP, I loaded up 1ml of Dark Horse in a minitank on my Triton ego-style. Sort of like Wrangler Light from GeJ, with just a tad more sweetness to it, smoothing out the grassiness. I can see why many consider it a cigarette at the NETty awards. I'll let it steep some more, then try it in the Protank.

I will definitely be placing another order for more HA. This could be my main ADV.

Congrats to both of y'all for finding a NET that ya' dig. HA is definitely a great representation of HHV. But just wait until you dig in to PB and 'Dipity!

 

[Mr.Mann]

I, for one, really hope a sampler is offered. Even thought it's single leaf extraction (I really have no idea what that means-just that the juice is less complex, which is ok for me]) I'm very curious to try his brews. Especially now that it's out that they're very well filtered.

The name #233 got me excited because I'm a total firearm dork and I misread it as 223.

Single leaf extractions vs. multi-leaf (blends) don't always mean one is going to be more complex necessarily because certain strands like burley or fire-cured can be very deep on their own (think Blue Grass Burley, Louisville, or Fire Cured). It really just depends. In the case of HHV, in several of their juices they use blends on top of a base comprised of a blend (good luck trying to DIY some of HHV tobaccos, LOL). That is why some of their juices can be wildly complex, but the downside to blends like that is your not going to be able to discern a specific tobacco; the upside is of course a very unique juice. Blue Grass Burley and Lousiville are burley, period; but I doubt anyone would call those a simple juice. It all depends.

I think a good extraction is always the key, irrespective of whether it is a blend or a single leaf.