Natural Tobaccos

[Chimps McGhee]

I agree, you do need to get a dripper of some sort. At the very least, a good quality disposable atomizer made by Cisco, Ikenvape, or EmpireMods. Better yet (IMO), a rebuildable dripper if you feel up to it. It's not too hard, if Scarf can do it I guess anybody can do it lol. My favorite is the IGO-S, but that's just me as I have a thing for the smaller drippers. Lot's of rebuildable dripper options at a very affordable price. Have a couple newer small drippers coming in soon I'm excited about that were only $6.50 each.


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I have been looking at the IGO-L the past few day and think that they would go well with my incoming VAMO. Beyond that, I am beginning to ponder trying out some new (to me at least) delivery devices like some genny-style tanks or some carto tanks. I thought that I was supposed to be saving money with the switch to vaping....

 

[Jerms]

I have been looking at the IGO-L the past few day and think that they would go well with my incoming VAMO. Beyond that, I am beginning to ponder trying out some new (to me at least) delivery devices like some genny-style tanks or some carto tanks. I thought that I was supposed to be saving money with the switch to vaping....

The IGO-L WILL go well with your incoming VAMO.



You did save money switching to vaping. Then you spent money turning it into a hobby lol.

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[Mr.Mann]

Actually, no.

You're a trip.

 

[scarf-ace]

It's not too hard, if Scarf can do it I guess anybody can do it lol.

I deserved that, I guess.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I received a message from Kurt about the issue of carcinogens in fire cured tobacco. I would rather quote his PM, but if he doesn't get back with me as to whether quoting him like that is okay, I'll just say that according to him, the levels of TSNAs are higher in "fire cured/fermented tobacco." He couldn't speak definitively as to whether the higher levels were great enough to translate into anything more than normal (if that even translates) in a vape, but he said as tobacco itself, yes, there would be more. Once again, this is in relation to tobacco, but not necessarily fire cured eliquid, so that question dangles out there. If I was a betting man, I would say...

 

[AnthonyB]

5 days ago I put in an order with Goodejuice for 30 ml bottles of Patriot, GJ4, Acacian Gold and Wild Turkey. Tonight I came home to find a card from the post office in my mail box instructing me that there is mail waiting for me at the post office. I am not expecting anything else. If that is my Gej order waiting for me it is exceptional. That would be the fastest I've ever received an order from the USA.

On the last round of liquids, when I was stocking up on various nets GEJ was the last vendor I ordered from after ordering from a different vendor over 5 consecutive days, and it was the first to arrive.

You guys aren't kidding when you say the vendor has the order in the mail before the checkout button is hit!

 

[Mr.Mann]

5 days ago I put in an order with Goodejuice for 30 ml bottles of Patriot, GJ4, Acacian Gold and Wild Turkey. Tonight I came home to find a card from the post office in my mail box instructing me that there is mail waiting for me at the post office. I am not expecting anything else. If that is my Gej order waiting for me it is exceptional. That would be the fastest I've ever received an order from the USA.

On the last round of liquids, when I was stocking up on various nets GEJ was the last vendor I ordered from after ordering from a different vendor over 5 consecutive days, and it was the first to arrive.

You guys aren't kidding when you say the vendor has the order in the mail before the checkout button is hit!

Yep, he's quick on the draw.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Lot's of rebuildable dripper options at a very affordable price. Have a couple newer small drippers coming in soon I'm excited about that were only $6.50 each.


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That's an incredible price.

 

[AnthonyB]

I'm getting an Evod soon to see if it can replace Boge cartos for my on-the-go vape. The last time I tried a clearo was a top-coil affair that I hated. Taste sucked, lots of gurgles, and had to always tip it up. Like you said though, tanks (indluding clearo tanks) have come a long ways, or so I've heard.

The one requirement for me is, the thing absolutely cannot leak. The carto has worked for me out on jobs cause it can be in my pocket and abused without any worries of leaking. Hopefully the filler-less Evod can do the same. I also need something I can take out of my pocket and count on being able to take a quick stealth vape without any tilting or fiddling.

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Jerms, I think you might find your Boges redundant once you try an Evod based on all you've said. I also used a top coil clearo such as a Kangar T2 (and even the T3's being BCC don't compare because they still have the inherent plastic taste in them). I too liked having Boges on the go. Boges were my favourite carto. They have great vapor and plenty of flavour. But ever since I got an Evod, Full sized Vapeonly and Mini Vapeonly I just have not had any desire to pick up a carto.

Here are the benefits of an Evod or Mini Vapeonly over Cartos such as Boge IMO:

Evod's hold 1.5-2mls of liquid. Boges requiring filling every 10 drops or so even though they can hold up to 50.
Evods vape consistently. Boges vape according to when you last filled it and then might cause juice to get in your mouth if overfilled.
Evod's have better taste in my opinion, fundamentally better.
Evods never leak in my experience whereas Boges do occasionally leak if you overfill.
Evods work with thick and thin liquids - Boges only with PG liquid or 80/20. 70/30 or over don't vape well in Boges or any cartos.
Evods are quieter therefore being better for stealth vaping. Boges are noisy.
As far as I can tell from limited experience, Evods don't leak even if upside down where a full Boge might.
An evod can be emptied and refilled with a different flavour liquid with no run off flavour but juice overlap is inevitable in a Boge if you try switching juice in the same carto.

I haven't touched a Boge or Dual coil carto since I got my good quality BCC tanks. I just haven't had a need to which is sad really. This new breed of tanks have spoilt me. I used to love Boges and still have 7 or 8 boxes of them.

 

[AnthonyB]

The Protank is great but I wouldn't be keen to go out in public with it and stealth vaping it is almost impossible unless you have knuckles the size of King Kong. As much as I like the Protank I find it a touch on the airy side. The Evod has a more balanced draw in my opinion.

Also, capacity of the tank is not always an advantage for everyone. I personally prefer a tank that holds 1.5 mls than one that holds 5 mls. I like my juices to run out so I can try something else. I also like the portability of a smaller tank. I love how the evod is perfectly streamline on an Ego battery. It's just perfect for being out and about.

i also think you can smash a Protank if you drop it on a pavement, but an Evod should escape unscathed.

May I suggest the Protank over the eVod? They are essentially the same, but the Protank holds more juice. The heads are interchangeable.

Man, I just went down Nostalgia Ln. on Youtube. Listening to some old punk rock that I listened to in High School. Oh man. Propagandhi for ... LIFE!!!! lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZyPSLpy5KI&feature=endscreen

 

[AnthonyB]

IGO-L IGO-L IGO-L. That is all.

I realized tonight that I need to get a dripper. I am not a fan of filling an eVod just to try a new juice. That is definitely my next investment (probably before the batteries and charger for the incoming VAMO even). I also have realized I need to try and unload some of my "fruity" juices either in PIF or the classies, as they just aren't in my wheelhouse right now. I keep gravitating toward the tobaccos I have, even if that means using an immature tobacco flavor over an older fruit flavor in the near future. I hope everyone is having a vape-filled weekend.

 

[AnthonyB]

Holy moly I saw a ghost twice in the space of 4 weeks. Dvap is not only a great pharmacist but he is omnipresent. Watch your words.

You're a trip.

 

[DVap]

Holy moly I saw a ghost twice in the space of 4 weeks. Dvap is not only a great pharmacist but he is omnipresent. Watch your words.

"Who you calling a pharmacist?", said the chemist.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I asked DVap the same question in personal messaging as I did with Kurt regarding the possible increase level of TSNAs/carcinogens in fire-cured/fermented tobacco. He believes similarly to Kurt and also stated that the extraction process may have a "huge impact" on the what may or may not be in the final product. Though, D is not familiar with all the various types of extraction for NETs and how they would effect the chemistry. (I hope I gave a decent synopsis of DVap's message)

Short of having a someone (that actually has experience in what to look for) or a lab test the liquid, I would suspect that we all will really never know what is "in" the some of these liquids. That said, I think it would be safe to assume that it is far less, if even related at all, to smoking. Considering (and this is just me talking), tobacco already has tobacco specific nitrosamines, if a tobacco has higher or lower levels, the biggest issue would be if the extraction process is extracting it (TSNAs) from jumpstreet along with the flavor. If you choose not to vape fire-cured tobacco, but the extraction process doesn't provide for "clean" liquids, I imagine you'd still not be in the clear.

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I talked with Wlad (Ahlusion) and Carol (w2v) about their respective Burley liquids and both of them are using blends of various Burleys. Wlad uses a couple types and Carol uses "several." I don't want to post any more specifics about BGB*, but that information at least lets us know that single-type tobacco juices does not mean one strain. The more I thought about it, I never really meant to imply single-leaf necessarily, but I surely didn't consider various strains in a single-type tobacco NET.

* BGB is a take on an air-cured Kentucky Burley.

 

[Jerms]

That's an incredible price.

The place I ordered from friday now has one of them on sale for $4.79 lol. It includes a nice stainless steel drip tip that normally costs more than that.

The 2 I ordered are both different versions of an ERA clone. An ERA is $75, and these look to function nearly the same. So far the few different versions have fallen under the names; Cutie, Cheapie, Mini RDA, Mini Octopus, the Squid, and Phoenix V4.

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[alexvander123]

After a long break from tobaccos I just ordered some pendragon, Sunday morning and southern gentleman from MOV and some proudest monkey and habana daydream from QnJ. Hopefully I like them. I only used to vape tobaccos until I found anise and fruity juices.

I found that I could adv 1 tobacco juice forever. And fruit juices get old after a week or 2. First time posting here to seems like a good group of people in here willing to help our and share knowledge.

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[alexvander123]

Also I'm a dripper. I use a igo-l and prefer subohm. How do these juices seem to fair on these setups?

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[Jerms]

Also I'm a dripper. I use a igo-l and prefer subohm. How do these juices seem to fair on these setups?

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I'm not sure if we have any sub-ohm vapers on this thread. Lot's of drippers though.

The MOV juices are clean and won't be an issue for your coils, not sure about QnJ. The MOV juices you have coming I love, especially PenD.

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[rdsok]

Also I'm a dripper. I use a igo-l and prefer subohm. How do these juices seem to fair on these setups?

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Aside from the issue of batteries and how many amps etc you are pulling, or the APV and knowing if it supports a sub-ohm value... It isn't about ohms, volts or watts even for that matter. Watts gets us close to what is important but still that value doesn't cover it all either. What is important is what I used to call just surface area of the coil itself but I found people didn't know exactly what I was referring too... so I've added to that ... it is about how much heat is found in one area or spot on the coil. Let me explain it further...

You can make a 1 ohm ( for discussion sake ) coil out of a 36 gauge, 30 gauge or even 28 gauge wire... the 36g will be a shorter wire than the others so it would concentrate the heat in a smaller area of coil instead of spreading it out like the longer coils would. By spreading the heat out across a larger surface area... you lessen the chance that you burn the e-liquid because that one area will have less overall heat. In each coil you'd find they all have the same values everwhere ( ohm, volt, wattage ) but the larger gauge wire will need to be longer which in turn spreads all of the heat out over a larger area making any one small area have a lower amount of heat.

So, in short, use a larger ( small number gauge ) wire to get the ohms you are looking for... this will spread the heat over a larger area so you have less chance at burning the e-liquid.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Also I'm a dripper. I use a igo-l and prefer subohm. How do these juices seem to fair on these setups?

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Quite an interesting bit of info I can share here--Steve at MOV is a sub-ohm, low nic vaper. He would be the absolute best resource to ask about that way of vaping and how well his juices hold up to it.