Patience with many of the HHV liquids is required. I (and many) did not care for them at first vape...or at least we did not experience the magic. But our patience paid off big time. Very typical testimonial of HHV.
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Damn, bro! You have a way with words, for sure. I think that's a great description, even though I've only had Patriot, AC and VB.
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Have you spoken with Wlad about this? He seems like the person to go to with this type of question.
He checks all his liquids via GC-MS for TSNAs. I have talked to him about testing other vendors liquids and he can do it, but the price is beyond worth it unless you are a business that cares enough to get your batches checked. He checks every one of his batches (which is time consuming and tedious), but most vendors could likely only afford to have random checks every blue moon, if that. I know he has checked TA and found no TSNAs in it, but he said the flavor consistency (by molecular read out, not taste) is inconsistent.
I would think that the tobacco grown in one field would taste different from that in another, just based on different soil and other conditions, even if they originated from a common ancestor. On the other hand, I don't know enough about tobacco agriculture to know for sure. That is true with coffee. Different regions that began with plants from the same source produce beans that, while similar in flavor, are not at all the same.
Your praise may evoke me to prepare a novella on the great family dynasty of the Heather's Heavenly Clan with all it's scandals, unrequited love, stars rising to fame, resignations and sackings, mutiny, sordid affairs and unlikely friendships.
I think the name changes alone would make it as hard to figure as the first hundred pages of War and Peace.
OK, just wanted to make sure that wasn't a specific juice or base tobacco.
That's nice to know that he checks his batches and has found no TSNAs. I wonder if it's his extraction method.
Being a glass blower/flame worker, I have access to liquid Oxygen. I'm very curious if LOX can extract flavor from tobacco.
That's why you're awesome Scarf. FVF hasn't really been working for me. Next time I vape it I'll think butter-pecan ice cream. If that clicks in my mind it will be a big up in my enjoyment of that RY4.
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It is likely the extraction method. Once again though, to test (and to have the actual machine) costs major bucks and his extraction does as well. That's just how Wlad is cut. Earlier last year he stopped carrying LDPE bottles (I am not sure which # LDPE) and found trace BPAs in liquids which is why he carries PET plastic bottles for the smaller sizes (glass on 30 mL and 60 mL). I actually prefer PET because I like the firmness (as long as the dripper isn't stingy like, ahem, you know who's smaller bottles. LOL) Maybe it's because I am leery of LDPE bottles, but I feel like old liquids that have been stored in LDPE soft plastic bottles taste plasticy. Who knows if that is actually the case or not, but I transfer all liquids in LDPE bottles to glass.
I transfer most of my juices in PET bottles since my juices last a while and they seem to keep better in those. Like you said, I also like the firmness of the bottles for dripping. I also like the look of the juices through the clear bottles. Makes them more ummm, appetizing lol.
I reuse my PET bottles a lot, I wonder how safe that is? LDPE bottles I throw after 1 reuse.
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From what I have seen, LDPE #4 is supposed to be safe, but I am not sure if the nicotine has a corrosive effect or not. I, like you, like PET bottles because of their sleekness and transparency, but even with all our efforts, there is no way to escape the multitudes of these kinds of issues for our everyday life. All types of plastic are everywhere.
Just an FYI, a 2008 study showed that even PET bottles leach into water, but at levels "well below the US Environmental Protection Agency (USEPA) maximum contaminant level (MCL)," i.e., "safe" levels. What does all that mean? According to that study, "climates where exposure to extreme conditions can promote antimony release from PET plastics;" so even good plastic leaches even if at "safe" levels, but extended time in hot climates exacerbates that leaching. For me, if I have bottles that are not getting vaped up, and I have more than enough to warrant a transfer, they're going into PET for medium term, or glass for long term. I also keep bottles in a cool, dark place, period. If traveling, they never stay in a hot car or even a pocket, especially if in any kind of plastic, PET or LDPE.
I've been considering getting glass instead of plastic and only using plastic for 5ml drippers...
For the juices I KNOW I will always keep, they go in glass. If I am vacillating on whether or not I like a flavor, PET is fine, but only if it's 15 mL or less. Conversly, I don't mind LDPE #4 for 3 mL samples.
Yep. thats where I'm at for sure. I have been looking at getting a some of 4/8dram or 15/30ml clear eyedropper bottles. not sure yet. I don;t have a ton that needs glass at the moment but, I also don't have any empties laying around... will need to figure out something (and I don't really want to pay more than $1/bottle)
The 10ml bottles that I know I like tend to get used up fairly quickly... i keep those bottles for when i travel since most of those have an actual label on them (makes security easier). if its 5 or less, meh... not worried one way or the other.
I hear you on price (unless buying in bulk, it's going to be about a dollar + per). Luckily, I don't have ton of liquid I keep in large quantities. I have about 10 x 15 mL, about 7 x 30 mL and 3 or 4 x 60 mL cobalt glass drippers. Fortunately, the two vendors that I want in large sizes already ship in glass, so I can transfer from the vendors that are too (insert adjective) to offer glass.
found one that does smaller bulk purchases which definitely makes it more reasonable - 4 Dram Glass vial w/ Cap - Pkg of 25 $20 for 25 15ml with droppers ($14 without) and $19 for 25 30ml (no dropper option). Not horrible and the quantities make it easier.
oh... they also have roll-on bottles for those days where you'd rather wear your juice and take on the world.
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