Natural Tobaccos

[billherbst]

I am surprised Backwoods Brew didn't make that list. Their now discontinued RY4 is legendary...and I have heard great things about a few others for theirs, in particular the maple tobacco. Anyone have thoughts on Backwoods?

I'm not sure which of their's is extracted tobacco, if any. I tried them before getting into NETs and found a couple okay, like the 555E and honey flue something or other. Pretty sure those were synthetic tobaccos. Casablanca didn't work for me at all. Want to try their Virginia still.

My understanding is that they are NET's. The Casablanca is a very popular and respected juice, but out of stock for the forseeable future. I am going to give their maple tobacco a whirl.

Among those of us who like knowing what goes into our tobacco juices, Don at BackwoodsBrew is notorious for being extremely tight-lipped about his ingredients and sources. Some information exists on ECF about that, but much of it is mere hearsay. Dependable information that can be passed on with certainty is rare. Straight synthetics? Straight NETs? Synthetic/NET hybrids? Home-brewed NETs or out-sourced? With BWB, it's mostly guessing.

Concerning BWB RY4, yes, it is near-legendary. Personally, I found it to be something of an "un-acquired" taste. That is to say, I loved it in my first year of vaping. BWB RY4's flavor profile is very idiosyncratic, however, and, as I vaped more and more Classic and Custom RY4s, BWB began to lose luster in my eyes (palate). I never stopped liking it, but in terms of rankings, my judgment is that many, many retail RY4s are clearly superior to BWB RY4. Having vaped more than 120 RY4s, I wouldn't rank it in the top 30. Even though it's no longer available, I've kept Don's RY4 on The Big RY4 List purely on the basis of its fame (the same applies to AlienVisions' Raf-a-licious). On The RY4 Report Card, BWB RY4 gets a grade of B. That may disappoint or even offend some hard-core BWB RY4 aficionados, but they can make their lists. LOL.

 

[OnTheFidele]

Oh my how this thread has grown! Gone for a few months and it might be quicker to read a Russian novel than catch up!

 

[Jerms]

Oh my how this thread has grown! Gone for a few months and it might be quicker to read a Russian novel than catch up!

The popularity of this thread answers the question I see pop up on ecf; "who wants to vape tobacco flavors anyways? Yuck!". Well, a few of us do.

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[EleanorR]

Jerms, that Nameless QnJ Vanilla-tobacco sounds heavenly; I hope they decide on a name SOON and put it on the website so I can order it!

As for my current A+ obsessions: I have to make myself put down my JG Blend each day, in order to pick up my Sahara Blend (oh sweet mystery of life . . . ); then I force myself late at night to challenge my blissed-out buds with a slap of Vurley or Honey Cured tongue; then I soothe my ramped-up taste buds with A+'s off-the-hook Black Pomegranate Tea; and then it's off to bed with a post-toothpaste T3 of Mojito Cubano . . .

And there you have this week's Vaping Diary.

 

[Hulamoon]

ELEANOR!!!! SHOCK! HORROR! Where's your Smoooooooooooth Criminal!!!

As for my current A+ obsessions: I have to make myself put down my JG Blend each day, in order to pick up my Sahara Blend (oh sweet mystery of life . . . ); then I force myself late at night to challenge my blissed-out buds with a slap of Vurley or Honey Cured tongue; then I soothe my ramped-up taste buds with A+'s off-the-hook Black Pomegranate Tea; and then it's off to bed with a post-toothpaste T3 of Mojito Cubano . . .

And there you have this week's Vaping Diary.

 

[EleanorR]

ELEANOR!!!! SHOCK! HORROR! Where's your Smoooooooooooth Criminal!!!

He turned out to be the kind of guy my Momma always warned me about . . . so I dumped him for JG!

 

[Hulamoon]

Well, he's still got me hooked I'm afraid ....Oh and I remember your first passionate night with him too. Bwahhahahahahaaa.

He turned out to be the kind of guy my Momma always warned me about . . . so I dumped him for JG!

 

[EleanorR]

Oh and I remember your first passionate night with him too. Bwahhahahahahaaa.

We don't talk about that night. I'm fairly certain he was under-age.

 

[Jerms]

It's too early to tell, but side-by-side I'm not sure if the QNJ vanilla will be up there with Vurley. Even if it doesn't, it'll still a great van-bacco.

No JG worship. I'm having a hard enough (brain fart, had to look up how to spell enough. I was right, enouf and enouph didn't look right) time leaving it and Sahara in the steep box.

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[Hulamoon]

Oooo...you lucky naughty girl. La Dona e mobile, la dona e mobile.....

We don't talk about that night. I'm fairly certain he was under-age.

 

[Jerms]

No Smooth Criminal worship either, I don't have any.

Besides, he's into dudes. Silly women.

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[AnthonyB]

My Mountain Oaks Vapor order has arrived! I picked up only three bottles and the main impetus of the order was Apache. I got Apache, Virginia Flake Ry4 and Southern Gentleman. I already have, what I've been told, is an older version of Southern Gentleman. That older version is apparently lower on the tobacco flavour. As I like SG already, I wanted to get the newer, improved version of it.

Before this order I had only tried SG and Pendragon. Both are nice but the one thing I've noticed is the the tobacco flavour is of a lower profile compared to say ahlusion or Goodejuice.

I am having a bad 'taste' day due to excessive vaping during my studies the day before yesterday and going through some sustained nicotine high for the same reason which was probably exacerbated when I was going through my whole inventory of juices to re-organise them in box. I got some juice on my fingers which had built up on the exterior of some of the bottles. My senses are not craving nicotine or flavour right now so my following comments are subject to that.

Sampling Apache just now I can see this juice is definitely a different beast from those MOV juices from last year. Apache is bold in your face tobacco. There is a lot of grassy notes in it. It almost tastes like Blue Grass Burley from ahlusion and Lousville from Want2Vape but I would definitely say closer to BGB. The burley and grass notes are strong in this juice. I wonder if that will get stronger or dissipate with steeping. These juices are less than 2 weeks old.

I really like this juice. I didn't think there was another juice that could pick up on that strong fresh grassy flavour like Blue Grass Burley does but this juice does. It is not what I expected but equally as good. I expected a strong bold dark tobacco.

I have also tasted the Full Virginia Flake Ry4. This juice is equally as wonderful for different reasons. I really like this blend of RY4. I've been seeking a good NET Ry4 and I was a touch disappointed with GJ4 from Goodejuice (and I don't think I've given GJ$ it a fair chance in a good atomizer or tank as yet). The full virginia flake Ry4 definitely needs steeping but I am liking the balance of flavours and the rich virginia taste coming through.

 

[shatner]

Sorry to use this as a chat thread. I just did something really stupid. I looked up an ex-girlfriend (twice ex, actually ). First mistake. Second: See her status as "Single". Third: The friend request. She accepted. I foresee drama in my near future.

Should I pull a

or see what happens?


See what I did there? A little nod to our gamer friends.

 

[EleanorR]

Shatner, GO DARK. NOW. Unplug from social media (other than ECF ) and get out while you still can!

Recall the definition of insanity? "Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."

Or are you just looking for "Strike three" for symmetry's sake?

 

[Cnew]

Sorry to use this as a chat thread. I just did something really stupid. I looked up an ex-girlfriend (twice ex, actually ). First mistake. Second: See her status as "Single". Third: The friend request. She accepted. I foresee drama in my near future.

Should I pull a

or see what happens?


See what I did there? A little nod to our gamer friends.

do you really need to ask?

 

[shatner]

Jerms, that Nameless QnJ Vanilla-tobacco sounds heavenly; I hope they decide on a name SOON and put it on the website so I can order it!

As for my current A+ obsessions: I have to make myself put down my JG Blend each day, in order to pick up my Sahara Blend (oh sweet mystery of life . . . ); then I force myself late at night to challenge my blissed-out buds with a slap of Vurley or Honey Cured tongue; then I soothe my ramped-up taste buds with A+'s off-the-hook Black Pomegranate Tea; and then it's off to bed with a post-toothpaste T3 of Mojito Cubano . . .

And there you have this week's Vaping Diary.

I told y'all Sahara Blend was delicious!

 

[shatner]

Shatner, GO DARK. NOW. Unplug from social media (other than ECF ) and get out while you still can!

Recall the definition of insanity? "Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."

Or are you just looking for "Strike three" for symmetry's sake?

Oh, I'm 'invisible' on FB. Here too, actually. I like my privacy.

*Le sigh* The second time we dated was ~1 year after a messy divorce 8ish years ago. I was a f'ing wreck at that point. Plus there are some serious feels. Nostalgia and all. She was my highschool sweetheart. We just lived too damn far away to see each other besides school.

do you really need to ask?

Actually... Yes. Yes I do.

Deep down I kind of like drama. But hate it at the same time. Plus I've been single for >8 years, one nighters notwithstanding.

 

[EleanorR]

Well. I'm no relationship expert. But I do believe that "You can't go home."

Do you think either you or she have changed much in that intervening 8+ years? (Or since high school??!!)

Myself, I loathe drama. Nothing gets older faster than drama. Life is too damn short, and I prefer rational people.

 

[Jerms]

I think it's a good idea to get back with an ex. Reminds us why they became an ex.

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[shatner]

Well. I'm no relationship expert. But I do believe that "You can't go home."

Do you think either you or she have changed much in that intervening 8+ years? (Or since high school??!!)

Myself, I loathe drama. Nothing gets older faster than drama. Life is too damn short, and I prefer rational people.

Don't get me wrong here. I misspoke. I don't like drama when it affects me. And a g/f pulling drama BS; I can ignore it. I only lived w/ one woman: my (now ex)wife.

I know I've changed a ton in the last 8 years and especially since HS. I'm much more intellectual now and know where I'm going in life. In the winter I flame work (blow glass w/ oxy/propane torch) and gunsmith in the summer because it's too hot for me in houston to work hot glass in summer.
8 years ago, I was fresh out of a nasty divorce (no kids, just assets) and just blowing glass everyday. Aimlessly, like a machine. Same pipe, up to 100 pieces in a day. No future goals or challenges to further my skill. Now, I can make marbles, nice wine glasses/goblets, jewelry (that people actually want). I take and teach classes, fly all over for competitions.

Here's my latest work:
Pendant:

Another pendant:

Mib:

\shameless plug

In the summer I work with firearms. I work with (not for!) Houston PD and SWAT and some active duty sf. I customize their weapons. I'm a Glock, AR-15, Sig, Colt, Springfield, Remington, Mossberg and FN armorer. Meaning I'm an Authorized gunsmith for those companies to do warranty repair work.

My outlook on life has changed. I have very slight Asberger's. I didn't know that 8 years ago. That's a lot of where my issues stem from. Now that I know that it's much easier to just chill.

Plus I don't drink nearly as much as I used to. I was never a rager, just an ... hole.

Enough of my last decade.

How 'bout that Dulce Cubanito? I've vaped 15ml of my 30ml. I'm regretting not getting 2 60ml. :firstworldproblems: