Nearing disaster in New York - please take action NOW to prevent e-cigarette ban.

[Kobudo]

For the most part, this is totally the crux of our political system. Here in California, we tried to put a proposition up to change at least a portion of our elections to be publicly funded. And of course, the same people that ..... and moan that all politicians are corrupt voted down the only prop that would actually start to move us into a cleaner system. If we want effective government, if we want the Ron Paul's or the Dennis Kucinich's of the world to actually have more of a say in our government, then we need to absolutely abolish the way we allow corporations to pay for elections. It is the ONLY way to a Just government system. Until then, we have a few good apples in congress/Senate that don't require a ton of private interest funds to get elected, but then we have an exponentially large amount of bad apples that require special interest money to get elected, and they know how to keep getting that money--its not by providing the proper service to the voting populace.

That's pretty cool, but I don't think public funding is the answer. Looking at the state of California's fiscal issues, I would have voted it down too.

What I would like to see in a proposition is strict campaign limits, both in duration and cost, for all state-level appointments and lower (this would include state senators and congressional representatives).

You have one month. Your campaign can cost no more than $2500. Any PACs or similar organizations that support the candidates must coordinate their efforts with the candidates, as any money they spend campaigning for or against any candidate counts towards the campaign limit.

Thousands of small businesses do well with far less.

 

[Gandy]

good luck, ny has highest tobacco tax in the land and am sure they don't want to lose that revenue.

 

[MitchellBeans]

good luck, ny has highest tobacco tax in the land and am sure they don't want to lose that revenue.

Yep. Add to the fact a completely out of control government is more about tax and spend versus fiscal responsibility, and you have the great trainwreck that is NY!

Fortunatley, we can vote all those jerks out in November.

 

[jimho]

Yep. Add to the fact a completely out of control government is more about tax and spend versus fiscal responsibility, and you have the great trainwreck that is NY!

Fortunatley, we can vote all those jerks out in November.

Just be careful that we don't replace the current jerks with bigger jerks. Voting against the incumbant without knowing who/what you are voting for makes you part of the problem.

 

[Kobudo]

Just be careful that we don't replace the current jerks with bigger jerks. Voting against the incumbent without knowing who/what you are voting for makes you part of the problem.

Agreed... also would like to add that the "tax and spend liberal" stereotype is usually one of two evils, the other being the "don't tax and spend like heck anyway conservative."

 

[HeatherC]

Gotta love governor patterson

 

[Lezil]

wow , >.< ill call even tho i dont live there lol

 

[THE]

My bedroom has become infested with gnats this evening.. and they're biting me
It made me remember this thread about the government
The good news is that these gnats won't be a problem, soon

 

[bliynd]

OMG.... I absolutely HATE NY, I swear to god, if they ban e-cigs... i'm going to lose it. This state is a train wreck, if I didn't have so much family here i'd move.... The gov't needs to be overthrown.... who's with me!!!! oh yeah what you all think about the wardiaries that were released on wikileaks.com??

 

[HeatherC]

OMG.... I absolutely HATE NY, I swear to god, if they ban e-cigs... i'm going to lose it. This state is a train wreck, if I didn't have so much family here i'd move.... The gov't needs to be overthrown.... who's with me!!!! oh yeah what you all think about the wardiaries that were released on wikileaks.com??

I'm with ya.

 

[Beyondcr]

It should not matter where you live we cannot let any ban pass we cannot let them get a grip on anything to do with ecigs. I don't wanna be looked at as a drug dealer just because I don't want to kill myself and harm others around me if anything the big tobacco company's should be giving out the ecig and fluid for free for selling such of a addicting drug. We must stand up, I donot have much knowledge into this yet but any suggestions to what we can do I will follow.

 

[HeatherC]

It should not matter where you live we cannot let any ban pass we cannot let them get a grip on anything to do with ecigs. I don't wanna be looked at as a drug dealer just because I don't want to kill myself and harm others around me if anything the big tobacco company's should be giving out the ecig and fluid for free for selling such of a addicting drug. We must stand up, I donot have much knowledge into this yet but any suggestions to what we can do I will follow.

YES!!!!!!!!!!! I don't know if this helps at all...I've been talking to a doctor who told me he hoped they didnt ban these because of how he sees them working for people. I told him then that the FDA and AMA are some of the groups that are working toward bans...and I suggested that maybe he get into that debate with them. I will make that suggestion to all of my docs (I see 4 regularly) I don't know for sure but it would seem to me that if we work on professionals...getting them on our side...that would work? wouldn't it?

 

[Little Girl]

Yes, definitely - every single person we reach helps.

 

[Devin35]

there is no way they can conciously ban e-cigs and not regular cigs. It ridiculous

 

[skri11a]

there is no way they can conciously ban e-cigs and not regular cigs. It ridiculous

Who said they had a conscience?

 

[MitchellBeans]

Who said they had a conscience?

Or logic for that matter.

 

[Lezil]

Or logic for that matter.

hahaha especially since obama

 

[Hoodwinkmark]

Just called and left a message!

 

[firefox335]

there is no way they can conciously ban e-cigs and not regular cigs. It ridiculous

"...now they're thinking about banning toy guns, and they're going to keep the .......ing real ones! "

-George Carlin

 

[suddenly]

I just read this on another thread. Is this true? I can't find anything on it!


New York Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo

The man who pushed HARD for the New York eCig ban. His bill was signed into law, eCigs can no longer be sold in the State of New York.

Andrew M. Cuomo - DEMOCRAT.