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Ken_A

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BTW is there a support part of the forum?
A place that folks have shared game plans, strategies to quitting tips and tricks ? Obstacles to overcome as you replace analog with vaping . Thanks again for all your input and support . You guys are great please be patient with me
You are there. :) in the new vapers section, you can feel free to ask for any support and pose any question that clicks your fancy. :)

WTA or Whole tobacco Alkolids - Nicotine is the main alkaloid and is the most addictive. There are 5 other minor tobacco alkaloids: nornicotine, anabasine, anatabine, and myosmine. These alkaloids are MAO (monoamine oxidase) inhibitors which are used as an anti-depressant. This is where the controversy lies. There are theories that these other alkaloids are what makes nicotine more addictive. There have been no studies to prove this yet. The studies so far have focused on the nic alkaloid by itself, the extraction methods of these alkaloids, measuring the amount of nic in the urine, and the effect of tobacco smoke on the body.



http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-liquid-discussion/230570-wta-e-liquid-issues.html
 

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Drink water. I will repeat that. Drink TONS of water.

Good luck to you KennyV.

Bullette says woof!

Thanks I am aware of needing more . Well hydrated On average I drink more than ½ body weight in ounces daily Most folks dont know that is rule of thumb and are already dehydrating . I have practices and applied detox for ten years now...

anyways That means I fill up 16.9 Oz bottles of H20 pretty much on the hour every hour at work . And do the same at home as I have an Ro unit. Under my sink. I have been practicing proper hydration for years now.

Thanks ya all for your time care ansd concerns , Btw I am taking plenty of Anti oxidants Vit A C E and have added extra D and B last few weeks. So ill be fine in that department.
U guys are great thanks for all your concerns and kind words
Back at cha Bull :cool:

Kenny v
 

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For some people, they miss the MAOI or other things found in cigarettes. Some use what is called snus, others use what is called WTA eliquid.

No idea if this applies to you, or if it is simple sensitivity to something in the eliquid you have, or ...

Im gona ride it out and see what happens … things cannot get any worse. Could they?? Or at least I HOPE so... day 11 im still here alive.... and breathing

Yesterday was a bad deal , dont even remember the day I did not know what side was up... was in a total sense of disorder. Worst is I need to focus on my Job as I am a machinist and work on precision equipment and work with high tolerances . Man I could not focus remember or see straight .. Having a day like that could have been disastrous . Lucky I work alone and at my own pace,so I was able to catch myself .

things cannot get any worse. Or at least I HOPE so... If they do than ill have to quit the smokes all together and start from scratch no vapin either … if I crash then I crash its better than being on some other disastrous drug …......

One day at a time....... better today tho....:)
 

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ecigs dehydrate you the glycerin binds with the water molecules and you get dehydrated. Headaches are the first sign, you will need more water than usual even is you usually get plenty. Nausea is the sign of to much nic. You may be over doing it to look for that satisfaction factor, I smoked for 37. I do inhale into my lungs as I did when I smoked. I would not pull the fill out of the carto to drip in. I use an atty for that. The satisfaction you are seeking will come with the ecigs eventually. In the beginning (7 months ago I started vaping) the satisfaction came from adding WTAs. The first time I used them my whole body was so happy like it just found a long lost friend (had vaped a couple of weeks before trying them). I didn't need them very long after finding a juice I found pleasing, I vaped and was satisfied. I hope my experiences helped you and if I forgot to address something just ask and I will do my best to explain if I experienced that and what I learned.
 

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Kenny, First there is no magical answer. Quiting is hard no matter how you do it.

I went from my last cig to vaping day one.
I felt all the withdraw symptoms of no analogs. No matter how you do it there are going to be a withdraw.
With analogs you absorb differently the nic than you do with vaping, Vaping you absorb between 30 and 40 % of the nic, mostly from your mouth throat and bronc tubes.
Think I felt the first few days:
coughing everytime I vaped
hickups
dry throat
upset stomach
nervious
short of temper
not being able to consintrate for any period of time
unable to get a good night sleep
a lumpy feeling in the back of my throat
sore gums
thirsty
Now I can tell you from experence that most of those are from quiting analogs
the sore gums,a lumpy feeling in the back of my throat, hickups are directly from the nic and they go away with in a week. I had the same things when I used the lozenges.

the rest of things were directly withdraw. not to mention the panic feeling, and the mania of wanting a cig.
Every time I felt I need a cig and took a vape. Then the body gets used to the new reality, after a week of vaping only I was able to have that aww thats more like it feeling.

Other symptoms of quiting that nobody talks about.... BO is stronger as the chems leave the body, stinky feet, arm pits hurt, gas (tummy bloat).Food will taste different, Im telling you it really makes your body go threw a huge change. Your body is having to get rid of so many things, detoxing is going to happen. At 24 days im still detoxing some. More water please!

You are working agianst yourself IMHO your still smoking so your brain is getting its way, and as long as you do that its going to keep telling you to keep using analogs. I totally believe to make this work you have to make a clean breakaway from analogs. And mentally fight your mind against picking up an other analog. That is where the vaping takes over. Your mind is going to do everything it can to keep you on analogs. Its going to make it so very difficult but you have to be strong and fight it with ever thing you have to win.
Your mind will even tell you that vaping doesnt work.

The TH is from PG and also from what flavor you are using. Right now im using Big Red 50/50 24 mg with a G6 manual and a novo mini ( remember the gum) its a huge TH, spicy on the sweet and then spicy.

Drink plenty of water, use your e-cig just like you would your analog. It needs to take the place of the analog in all aspects for it to work. I every once ina while now get a pang for a cig at 25 days in but for the most part im totally at ease with the delivery of the nic with vaping now. Yes I had a hard time the first 2 days, but being stubborn and not givin in to my self got me threw the worst part of it.

I like clearos more than anything else. you have just a wick rather than stuffing.

40 years of analogs full flavor,over a pack a day. 25 days, Vaping full time 24mg going threw about 3ml aday and not regreating one minute leaving analogs. Its truely a rebirth and you need to walk before you run.
 
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ecigs dehydrate you the glycerin binds with the water molecules and you get dehydrated. Headaches are the first sign, you will need more water than usual even is you usually get plenty. Nausea is the sign of to much nic. You may be over doing it to look for that satisfaction factor, I smoked for 37. I do inhale into my lungs as I did when I smoked. I would not pull the fill out of the carto to drip in. I use an atty for that. The satisfaction you are seeking will come with the ecigs eventually. In the beginning (7 months ago I started vaping) the satisfaction came from adding WTAs. The first time I used them my whole body was so happy like it just found a long lost friend (had vaped a couple of weeks before trying them). I didn't need them very long after finding a juice I found pleasing, I vaped and was satisfied. I hope my experiences helped you and if I forgot to address something just ask and I will do my best to explain if I experienced that and what I learned.

Headaches can also be from not enought nic to, and nausea can be from withdraw.
 

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Good news Finially Ahhh!! but not an Aahaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! u know what Ill take it.

In 11 days I cut down my anaolog smoking over 70 % . in that time I did NOT get to enjoy anything, Not ONE HIT I had a dam e cic first 8 days and it was not enjoyable one bit.. I had in my mind to cut the smokes and still stuck to my guns . Than I came here to learn about vaping man im glad I did........ ordered my kit waited patiently and remained opened minded . My original plan was to replace the other 70% w/ vaping but had a hard time BC I was trying to lung inhale besides didn't know how to vape properly,

That was 3 days ago when I got my PV ( Tube tank Volcano inferno) first night was a mess 2nd day was day was bad too … I was arfaid to vape not sure of the nicotine inntake or what I wasexperincing so cut my juice ended up worse off . Next thing I found myself going though major withdrawals again . Yesterday was a day I don't want to remember ,

Anyways long story short but will say thanks im OK...
One day at a time right . Tonight I go my first Ahaaa!!!!! . As I am learning how to hit properly and enjoying vaping for the first time...... u guys were right tobacco flavors are not my #1 choice I prefer fruit juice way more yea!!! I love to drip man.......…. I don't know If it means much but to me it does BC I have to say is I DID NOT smoke 16 analogs today . That means yup 4 smokes all day in just 11 days cutting down from an 30yr PAD habit .And ya know what the last smoke I had I got sick on... I am glad .. dang poison sticks .

Right now I'm So ...... off in all the chemicals they added to anaolog its sucks going though withdrawals man but im so glad I made the right choice. Hopefully soon I can fly my banner too .

I just drippedd allot of juice vaped my ... off and smoked my last annalog for the night and Dam Im sick to my stomache peeps .But ya know what I just may make it …,. I know I prob need the WTA's but not given in as of yet..... whats the worse that can happen I go crazy??

Thanks guys I realized something u ain'tt just vappers most of u folks are ex smokers who have gone though the rough too.for that I have to give a humble thanks . Welp I know Im in it for the long haul but hey ya have to take what yacan get. One day at a time

thanks again

Kenny V
 

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Hi Kenny,

Just so you know, I tried vaping back in 2009, but was never able to make the 'switch' to ecigs 100% of the time, until 2 years later. Back in 2009, the available hardware was NOTHING like you can get today. My 'cig-a-like' just wasn't powerful enough to give me what I needed to prevent the very misery you seem to be experiencing. I didn't want to make myself miserable, so I continued to smoke analogs as needed, and vaped whenever I could. It was only AFTER I upgraded to Ego batteries, CE2 clearomizers and higher nic (up from 18mg to 24mg) that I was able to 'switch' for about 6 weeks.

At the 6 week mark, the cravings became almost unbearable, and I felt much like you describe in your posts...unsatisfied, fuzzy, 'monkey on my back'. I could vape hard and long, but eventually would give myself a NIC HEADACHE and felt sick for a day and a half. I didn't vape OR smoke until I felt better. Also found it hard to sleep at night.

As someone suggested above, I heard about WTA eliquid, called Ethan at Vapelicious.com and placed an order. Soon as I tried the WTA eliquid, I was FINE. I vaped WTA juice exclusively for approximately 6 months, then began slowly stepping out into non-WTA juice. I was a LOT better.

You can get WTA eliquid from only two places at this time: (1) Vapelicious | Custom e-Liquid with Whole Tobacco Alkaloids (WTA)Vapelicious and (2) Aroma Ejuice Manufacturer of WTA Whole Tobacco Alkaloid Eliquid and both are quite good. I use both vendors.

Long story short: I used ecigs to cut down the number of analogs smoked, until I found the hardware and eliquid that worked for me. Just as you wrote that your body lets you know what it needs and how it's doing, so does mine. I was surprised that one day my body told me the nic level was too high, so I lowered it to 18mg...then 12 mg...and now I'm a 6 mg. I've tried 0mg, but that's too low. I feel better with a little nic, but don't need anything above 6mg anymore.

I'm now in my 3rd year of vaping, but less than half of that time I've been a 100% vaper. Even so, I've avoided THOUSANDS of analogs, and I feel 1000% better. (I smoked 2 packs/day for 32+ years. Now, I'm not even tempted. :))

WTA HELPED ME TREMENDOUSLY, but I also required good hardware and a good delivery system.

My suggestion would be to take it easy and don't make yourself sick or stressed by trying to 'switch' instantly. Instead, make the switch gradually as you're able to figure out the path that works for YOU.

I guarantee, when you find the right hardware, the right delivery system (cartos, clearos or dripping) and the right nic level (and maybe try some WTA eliquid for awhile), you will eventually find a setup you prefer over analogs. At that point, making the 'switch' becomes effortless and painless.

Every analog not smoked is a reason to celebrate, but don't kick yourself if you do smoke one or more while making the transition.

If I could make the switch, I believe ANYONE can do it, too! I had a terrible time until I found ecigs...now I'm FREE.


BTW - After vaping over a year, I don't buy the hype that nicotine is so extremely addictive. I can put my PV down and NOT vape for several days, and NEVER have withdrawals (*except it is more difficult to FOCUS without nic). Instead, I believe the crap added to analogs offers its own set of addictive properties, and those are the ones that gave ME the most trouble. Once I got away from them (took about 8 months), lowering my nic levels was fairly easy. And, although I still vape, I still LIKE IT. I have no intention of quitting my vape...even if I take the nic to 0mg. I DO like blowing clouds, and I DO like my FLAVORS! (I also DIY my own eliquid now. ;))

I also drink coffee, and have no intention of quitting caffeine...but I CAN put it away for a few days if I have to. I also use WHITE SUGAR in my tea, and I AM addicted to sugar...but I CAN do without if necessary. :unsure:

You're doing great by asking questions. Keep it up. We won't let you down, cuz we're ALL in this boat together. ECF folks were a God-send to me, and they're still here! :D

GOOD LUCK! :vapor:
 
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Im gona ride it out and see what happens … things cannot get any worse. Could they?? Or at least I HOPE so... day 11 im still here alive.... and breathing

Yesterday was a bad deal , dont even remember the day I did not know what side was up... was in a total sense of disorder. Worst is I need to focus on my Job as I am a machinist and work on precision equipment and work with high tolerances . Man I could not focus remember or see straight .. Having a day like that could have been disastrous . Lucky I work alone and at my own pace,so I was able to catch myself .

things cannot get any worse. Or at least I HOPE so... If they do than ill have to quit the smokes all together and start from scratch no vapin either … if I crash then I crash its better than being on some other disastrous drug …......

One day at a time....... better today tho....:)

Kenny,

I can totally sympathize with you. I did wire edm work for a long tong time, 300 thousand dollar plus machines, usually doing the 20th or 30th op on a one of a kind piece with ten thousand plus dollars of machining and time already into it, holding plus or minus .00015. I totally sympathise. I had my share of bad days, and made the occasional "paperweight" here and there lol. I used to run charmilles, sodick agie, mitsubishi, and a few other brand wire edms, and micro hole drillers, and a few others too, some with the fanuc controler and some not.

I was a smoker of marlboro 100s for 26 years and change. But I wasn't just a smoker, I was a HEAVY smoker. I smoked alot of cigs, and I took huge "get the filter hot" hits, and I inhaled them deeply. I dropped them cold turkey, on the same day as tanti did - shes my RL other half. We dropped them, and started vaping halo ecigs and juice. It worked, but it wasn't enough, and we're both up to eGo variable voltage hardware now, and tanks - more "heavy vaping" sort of hardware. The hardware is what I'm really getting at here. Be as completely objective as you can, and make a note of how much and how hard you smoke, and set yourself up with hardware that can get the job done vaping for you. I'm not trying to sell hardware here, hell, tanti and I have barely been off the analogues for...it will be 4 weeks this wed, so we're new at it ourselves. I read your post about getting a volcano and a tube tank setup - this is a good thing. i don't know alot about them, but it looks very similar to an ego, and the tank looks decent to me, though I am admittedly new to them myself. But be honest with yourself, is your combination meeting your needs?

Get yourself some seriously kicking e-juice, and don't go low on the strength. My own personal suggestion, is halo torque 56 @24mg strength. Its not "sweet", its tobacco like, but not unpleasant, and it has a hint of maple to it. It has the benefits of giving you an hard hitting throat hit and lots of vape. It satisfies the cravings, really and truly.
 
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@Kenny
Why are you cutting down the nicotine strength in your ejuice, man??? You need nic.

The only way I could get satisfaction from vaping vs smoking was with 24 mg nic juice. And I was a very light smoker. (7-9 cigs/day)

There is plenty of time to cut down the nic strength AFTER you quit the cigarettes!

Just my 2€
 

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My suggestion would be to take it easy and don't make yourself sick or stressed by trying to 'switch' instantly. Instead, make the switch gradually as you're able to figure out the path that works for YOU..
Thats great advise , but need to figure out this nicotine thing lack of - too much.....or whatever is making me feel lousy …


Goal setting and transitioning


I know thiis is major transition and dont expect to be on a vaping program in one week .Problem here is I love to set goals and I already have cut the analogs . NOW I DONT have a problem with phasing them out altogether that is /was and will always be my Goal . Hatted them for YEARS now even more ..especial after the withdrawals . OK what I was saying is as long as the VAPE will replace the urge to smoke I am fine with ridding this out.

Now at the same time don'tt wan to se my self up for failure or be too hard on myself..
as of today I am 12 days in . So how long should I expect to smoke a few analogs as I find a vaping schedule?

again im looking for a rule of thumb something to consider or a piratical guide to isolate the withdrawals as I transition to vaping
as of today I cut analogs by 75% and feel lousy each time I have one..( guess that's good) Right?
my plan is to cut the analogs down to 3 a day period !!!! over the next week and see how that goes

does that sound about right?

And if you cut down this method can you please share your experience

Thanks for all your help

PS
Withdrawals how long ( 1-2 weeks) Other ? and will they only lessen AFTER I cut the analog all together?
 

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@Kenny
Why are you cutting down the nicotine strength in your ejuice, man??? You need nic.

The only way I could get satisfaction from vaping vs smoking was with 24 mg nic juice. And I was a very light smoker. (7-9 cigs/day)

There is plenty of time to cut down the nic strength AFTER you quit the cigarettes!

Just my 2€

That was the first day …. nicotine issue the symptoms of withdrawal were not clear.. had a bad first night and I think I over vapped next day was hesitant ,, Now better but not sure how to proceed with timing and Mg ?

Again now im not sure how much is enough and get sick to my stomach is this a nicotine issue ?
 

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I smoked my last pack 3/day, at wakeup, first time in my car, and after dinner.

Key for me was having a little eliquid at a higher strength, and a really firm cigarette flavor, that I used at just those three times for a while. For me I normally used a 24 mg/ml, or a 16 for times when I was chain vaping, but had one carto with higher strength.

Everyone varies, but getting down to a couple per day, and finding they just aren't tasting good, is great.
 

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Hi Kenny,

Just so you know, I tried vaping back in 2009, but was never able to make the 'switch' to ecigs 100% of the time, until 2 years later. Back in 2009, the available hardware was NOTHING like you can get today. My 'cig-a-like' just wasn't powerful enough to give me what I needed to prevent the very misery you seem to be experiencing. I didn't want to make myself miserable, so I continued to smoke analogs as needed, and vaped whenever I could. It was only AFTER I upgraded to Ego batteries, CE2 clearomizers and higher nic (up from 18mg to 24mg) that I was able to 'switch' for about 6 weeks.

At the 6 week mark, the cravings became almost unbearable, and I felt much like you describe in your posts...unsatisfied, fuzzy, 'monkey on my back'. I could vape hard and long, but eventually would give myself a NIC HEADACHE and felt sick for a day and a half. I didn't vape OR smoke until I felt better. Also found it hard to sleep at night.

As someone suggested above, I heard about WTA eliquid, called Ethan at Vapelicious.com and placed an order. Soon as I tried the WTA eliquid, I was FINE. I vaped WTA juice exclusively for approximately 6 months, then began slowly stepping out into non-WTA juice. I was a LOT better.

You can get WTA eliquid from only two places at this time: (1) Vapelicious | Custom e-Liquid with Whole Tobacco Alkaloids (WTA)Vapelicious and (2) Aroma Ejuice Manufacturer of WTA Whole Tobacco Alkaloid Eliquid and both are quite good. I use both vendors.

Long story short: I used ecigs to cut down the number of analogs smoked, until I found the hardware and eliquid that worked for me. Just as you wrote that your body lets you know what it needs and how it's doing, so does mine. I was surprised that one day my body told me the nic level was too high, so I lowered it to 18mg...then 12 mg...and now I'm a 6 mg. I've tried 0mg, but that's too low. I feel better with a little nic, but don't need anything above 6mg anymore.

I'm now in my 3rd year of vaping, but less than half of that time I've been a 100% vaper. Even so, I've avoided THOUSANDS of analogs, and I feel 1000% better. (I smoked 2 packs/day for 32+ years. Now, I'm not even tempted. :))

WTA HELPED ME TREMENDOUSLY, but I also required good hardware and a good delivery system.

My suggestion would be to take it easy and don't make yourself sick or stressed by trying to 'switch' instantly. Instead, make the switch gradually as you're able to figure out the path that works for YOU.

I guarantee, when you find the right hardware, the right delivery system (cartos, clearos or dripping) and the right nic level (and maybe try some WTA eliquid for awhile), you will eventually find a setup you prefer over analogs. At that point, making the 'switch' becomes effortless and painless.

Every analog not smoked is a reason to celebrate, but don't kick yourself if you do smoke one or more while making the transition.

If I could make the switch, I believe ANYONE can do it, too! I had a terrible time until I found ecigs...now I'm FREE.


BTW - After vaping over a year, I don't buy the hype that nicotine is so extremely addictive. I can put my PV down and NOT vape for several days, and NEVER have withdrawals (*except it is more difficult to FOCUS without nic). Instead, I believe the crap added to analogs offers its own set of addictive properties, and those are the ones that gave ME the most trouble. Once I got away from them (took about 8 months), lowering my nic levels was fairly easy. And, although I still vape, I still LIKE IT. I have no intention of quitting my vape...even if I take the nic to 0mg. I DO like blowing clouds, and I DO like my FLAVORS! (I also DIY my own eliquid now. ;))

I also drink coffee, and have no intention of quitting caffeine...but I CAN put it away for a few days if I have to. I also use WHITE SUGAR in my tea, and I AM addicted to sugar...but I CAN do without if necessary. :unsure:

You're doing great by asking questions. Keep it up. We won't let you down, cuz we're ALL in this boat together. ECF folks were a God-send to me, and they're still here! :D

GOOD LUCK! :vapor:
Discovery this has been a rough ride …

Rolor coaster to say the least , I like roloar coasters, can do loop de- loops can go out on a boat with 8-10 footers ..but this quiting smoking thing is worse man..

everyday is a new day of revelation allot of numb feelings from my smoking years have come back to me . Lots of self realsation good and bad..... But many bottled up emo's have come as well . I had some rough experiences in life , yea we all got stuff but man never got high/ low all in one episode .. Wholly smokes no ... no ...!!!! no (W T F !!! ) No WTA or whateverman....
hope someone understands something I may have said and can relate if not all ill say is man this is life changing .
Hopefully I get through and thanks guys u my peeps :)
 
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My guess is that you are having a reaction to either the PG the VG or something in the nic. I quit 3 months ago, the first kit I got had pre-filled cartos, I got HUGE headaches from these. 18mg. Then I bought clearomizers and bought juice and felt like I had to vape all day at 12mg to not want to smoke. UGH! Then I started DIY my own ejuice. I vape about 16-18mg of my own stuff, no issues, no headaches.

Perhaps you are sensitive to something. I know I have a sensitivity to VG, which is unusual but it makes me cough and makes my through and lungs feel super tight.

You can do this, you are doing a great job. I think the best advise ever is to keep experimenting on mg, cartos, pv's, clearomizers, juices and bases. It took me over 2 months to dial it in so I wasn't craving stinky's, but I am over the hump and so will you! Persist!!! :)
 

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ive only been stoped 5 weeks but the day my pv arived in the post i stoped not had a real smoke since started at 24mg as i was a big smoker 50 or 60 a day rollups and i felt fine never looked back had to drop the nic down every week am now at 4mg as im vaping way to much around 10 to 15mm a day im sure i read some thing like pack of smokes is aprox 24mg per pack i smoked about 2 packs so thats 48mg of nic a day ive i vape 10mm of juice then to get 48mg of nic i need each mil of liquid to be 4.8 strength thats the way i looked at it so at 24mg strength i was so over doing it although ther are a load of other things to consider absorbtion rate ect
alo found silly things like bleeding gums when brushing teath spots and a cold sore through all the things you get from stoping smoking aparently
all i can say is stick with it and have fun try some new flavours and difrent cartos or clearomisers i went from carto to clearos in first week much beter for long term use will try driping next i think the fun keeps my mind off real smoking
 
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Kenny V-
You ARE doing great !
Nobody said it was going to be easy...did they ?
Think of this month of suffering as 'payback' for all those ciggies you burned.
Now- March will come...and you will be a free man.
I said it way back in the beginning...you just need your nic- and vaping will supply you with it.
Good gear- and good ejuice- and the positive attitude, Man- you are on your way.

Still wishing you THE BEST !!!
 

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Kenny V-
You ARE doing great !
Nobody said it was going to be easy...did they ?
Nope my decision..however never knew what I got into either


Think of this month of suffering as 'payback' for all those ciggies you burned.

Yup well I didn't suffer just was poisoned


Now- March will come...and you will be a free man.

Well I woldn't say that yet but 660 less -bc im sill holding ground end of marrch will be -700 by my exspeted quit date u do the math


I said it way back in the beginning...you just need your nic- and vaping will supply you with it.


Well 4 me its a bit more but thats another story



Good gear- and good ejuice- and the positive attitude, Man- you are on your way.



Yea magic juice and da lord.... but whatever

Still wishing you THE BEST !!!

thanks no suprt@ home but im a trooper Thanks I need all the support can get u don't know what that means when i know my peeps care
u guys R DA best :)
 
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