Need help finding a better tank.

[theCannibalGirl]

So I've been using a PT2 and a MiniPT2 for the last couple months. I'm looking for something different. I've been looking into the Aspire nautilus and the AeroTank. I don't want to do dripping or anything really complicated, and I'm more concerned with flavor than vapor production.
Any suggestions would be super helpful.

 

[Auntie Mame]

I have both, I prefer the nautilus. It never leaks, it holds plenty, looks great, performs well. I love the air controller on it, it stops at each of them, I don't have to line it up. Many are having issues with the coils frying in days if not hours. I learned to build my own and was amazed at how easy it is, even for an old lady like me. Rumor has it there will be a new Nautilus mini released soon and that it has a new style coil. I like my AeroTank, but I love the Nautilus.

 

[theCannibalGirl]

I've read a little on building coils, but it's all so technical and math was never my subject.

 

[Kingsley1065]

Just switched from PT's to Aero tanks. Purchased both Aerotank and aerotank mini and love them both. The NEW upgraded dual coils seem to work much better for me, you'll need to purchase them separetly


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[Marble]

Get the Nautilus you can't go wrong, I now have five of them... Lovely flavour, holds 5ml of juice and gets enough vapor out of it too...


My two for my day at work...

 

[Seanchai]

I've read a little on building coils, but it's all so technical and math was never my subject.

Math was never my subject either - I'm dyscalculiac (math version of dyslexia) *and* I have cerebral palsy so my hands don't do fine motor stuff well... but wrapping a coil is easy, easy, easy and shouldn't involve any math if you do it right (i.e. use an ohm meter - which anyone should be using to double check their builds even if they *did* do the math.)

It is literally as simple as "wrap some kanthal wire around a small screwdriver, connect one side to positive and one to negative, check the resistance on an ohm meter, if it's where you want it, wick it and vape."

The math comes in only if you want to calculate exactly how much wire you need before you do anything (which is a little silly imo - wire is cheap), or if you're sub-ohming, in which case you need to make sure your battery has a high enough amp rating to safely power the coil.

The reason it looks "mathy" if you read explanations online is, the total length of your coil affects the final resistance (the more wraps, the higher the resistance). Since the length of the wire is also affected by the diameter of the coil, there's no simple answer to "how many wraps do I need for X ohms?" It depends on what you're using to wrap the wire around... the wider the thing, the higher your resistance will come out per wrap.

Gauge (how thick the wire is) also affects resistance.

I can tell you from experience that six wraps of 28 gauge kanthal around a #0 metric screwdriver is between 1.0 and 1.2 ohms, but if you use a #1 screwdriver, or an eyeglass screwdriver, or a drill bit, or a piece of dowel you have lying around, 6 wraps will be something different when you do it. But that doesn't mean you have to do the math.... just wrap it and find out! It's generally a good idea to do a few more wraps than you think you'll need when you're first starting out ("aim high" in other words) because if it comes out a little higher than you'd like, it's still vapeable. If it comes out *lower* than you'd like, it may or may not be, depending on whether or not you want to sub ohm (and low resistance often doesn't play as well with tanks).

My battery of choice has an ohm meter built in, so I didn't have to buy one, although I picked one up from fasttech just so I could check them against each other if anything looked wonky. They're super cheap there... around $11 I think. Most US vaping sites sell them if you don't want to wait for the slow boat from China.

On topic... I vote for the Kanger Aerotank Mega.

 

[Timeghoul]

If you want to step it up i would recommend getting a kayfun and building your own coils, its not as hard as it looks and with a little practice you will be having the best vape ever hope this helped

 

[NathanielFT]

Had 2 nautilus tanks, got one mega, sold both the nautilus tanks and got a few more mega's. Both tanks have terrific flavour and vapour, but the coils on the nautilus are a bit hit and miss, some not working, many gurgling/leaking, and the good ones lasting only 3-4days each.

Aerotank coils on the other hand loads of flavour and vapour, no leaking whatsoever, and they are lasting at least a week each, not to mention they are cheaper. Also, kanger coils come in lower resistances then the 1.6ohm nautilus. Also, I've had more then a few burnt hits on the nautilus, none on any of my megas.

 

[DaveP]

I've read a little on building coils, but it's all so technical and math was never my subject.

Rip Trippers makes it look easy, and it is once you've done one. Here's the Nautilus micro coil rebuild.

 

[DaveP]

And here's his Protank 2 rebuild. You can buy a mini butane micro torch at Harbor Freight. Be careful and let the coil cool for a minute before you grab it. It's hot!

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

You could try a cartotank. That's given me the best flavor in the non rebuilding category. I prefer the ones from IBTanked. Just go to the complete tank section, and they walk you through everything you need for a complete tank. It's a glass tube with metal end caps on each end. Rather then a coil, you would use a cartomizer similar to the ones you would use on a cigalike kit. These cartomizers would have holes punched in them though, near the bottom, to allow liquid from the tank to feed into it each time you take a draw. They last much longer this way, as they are always moist and they give great taste. Depending on the juice I use, I've run a whole 30 ml through one carto before needing to change it. They're also cheaper then Nautilus coils or other dual coils to replace.

 

[SKYYcamel]

The Aerotank Mega has become my favorite topper. No muss - no fuss with great flavor and vapor production. I get at least 2 weeks out of each head.

 

[theCannibalGirl]

What is the difference between the aerotank and the aerotank mega?

 

[Carolina Vapoor]

The Mega offers the same great features and performance as the Kanger Aerotank but with a redesigned airflow valve. Turn the dial on the base to increase or decrease airflow to your preference. It also comes with a stainless steel replacement tube if glass isn't your thing. In this version the atomizer heads have also been redesigned with the wicks hidden to further prevent leakage.

***Copied and Pasted from a vendors website***

 

[Dissonance]

Wrapping your own coils is pretty simple to do safely. You'll also get a much better vape versus a stock coil (As in better flavor, more vapor, ability to turn your wattage/voltage up past that point on a factory coil where you just get a burnt taste, etc). There is a bit of an up-front investment cost (Most you probably already have laying around your house... But an ohm meter is definitely nice to have so you don't have to fiddle with a multitool, it'll cost you ~$15.00) but you'll get all that back and save money on your vaping habit versus buying stock coils. Also, math doesn't really factor into it. If you're using a regulated device then the only "math" is counting your number of wraps. If you're using a mech... Just pop online to an ohms calculator, put in the resistance (measured by the ohm meter) and voltage (Generally 4.2v, assume you're using a freshly charged battery in a perfect world with no voltage drop) and make sure your batteries can handle the amperage you're pulling from them. But that aside...

I work at a B&M store, and our most popular high-end non-rebuildable tank is the Aspire Nautilus. So if you're completely set on not going into rebuildables, this is what I would recommend. I've never used one personally, but someone I work with has one and absolutely loves it.

 

[Weizenheimer]

the current generation in order of size would be aerotank mini, mow, 2, mega, and giant

 

[CKCalmer]

I'm bookmarking this thread. Great coil building resources are linked throughout. Thanks to y'all who did that.

(And I'm a Rip Trippers fan, anyway.)

But I'm moving more and more towards CannibalGirl's position on the matter of building. I've only built one coil so far. It was for a Kayfun 3.1. A large tank, and a large coil deck to work with. I want to try - just once - building a coil for my beloved PT3. I think after I do that, I'll probably never want to do it again.

I've always been a very tech savvy person. I disassembled and reassembled my toys starting at age 4, and even the more complex ones never gave me a problem. I'd often find ways to make them better, in fact. But building a coil for vaping is simply below my minimum scale threshold. I felt like I was trying to join electrons when I built my KF coil. And that was a larger platform. The work is just too small for me.

I'm sure it's largely because I've lost the very sharp eyesight I've had throughout my life. I have to wear 1.50x glasses for "normal" existence - TV viewing, reading medium-sized text, cooking, etc. I have to go up to 2.00x ones for any small work. And I have to couple using my 2.00x glasses with using my big, armature-mounted magnifying glass to do really small work. It's just not fun when I am at the lower limit of my ability to see and handle something.

I can rebuild a mean engine. I can install a cold air intake, and underdrive pulleys, and high-flow fuel injectors and a low resistance exhaust system and get great results from it all, and enjoy doing it all as well. Because those items are larger than ten electrons wide. Building coils isn't. (Yes, I'm exaggerating, but y'all get my drift, I think.)

I'm 6'4" and I have big hands. I don't enjoy doing little work. And I hate that I don't enjoy it. I think building your own coils is smart and efficient and thrifty. And yet I just won't like doing it, I'm pretty certain. I'll try it once or twice more, but unless it grows on me in a big way (no pun intended), I'll just buy my coils from now on, and at some point, I'll have to just lay down my Kayfun. As much as that will break my heart.

I can't buy coils for my Kayfun. But I can get my PT3 coils for under $2 each. I'm fine with that. A PT3 coil lasts me over a week. I use about $5 worth of electric juice per week. Under $7 per week as my expenditure to vape is an amount that I will never complain about. Not even once. Compared to the $43 per week I spent on cigarettes? Under $7 per week. I'll never complain.

And if, at any time in the future, I fear the FDA will be banning the sale of replaceable coils, and the use of wire and cotton by Americans, then I will quickly hoard as many replacement coils as possible for my PT3, Nautilus, Aerotank or any other changeable coil device I'll ever have. And I'll hoard cartos for my cartotanks as well.

To answer the OP, I actually LOVE my Protank 3. I love it. It's my current favorite tank. I like the flavor I get, I like the vapor I get, I like the amount of electric juice it holds, I like its method of refilling, I like it's method of coil replacement ... everything.

But I do get more flavor from a cartotank, just as Tinkiegrrl says. And, as such, I love my SmokTech DCT. I'm going to get a better cartotank solution at some point. I love the flavor kick I get from cartotanks. The catches are that they're harder to fill, harder to replace the coil (i.e., carto) and they can be messy for a semi-klutz like me. So they're not my favorite vapor delivery device. When considering all the factors, I still prefer the PT3. But I will still buy and use cartotanks because they fill a niche in my vaping that's important to me. One that my PT3 doesn't fill.

Regarding the Nautilus and the Aerotank - I haven't tried either yet, but I'm going to buy one of each because I've heard about an equal number of ECFers tout each of them. I bet they're both great clearos, and it's probably a matter of discreet design or functional preference that steers a person more towards one or the other. Maybe I'll like the Nautilus capacity and coils better, but maybe I'll prefer the fill method and airflow control of the Aerotank better. Who knows until I get into each one.

I just doubt you could buy either of them and end up hating it.

 

[Redjah]

Aerotank is worth a try. My wife has one and likes it. I personally can't stand the pre-built coils for it (same as PT3). So I rebuild hers. I find rebuilding the PT3 harder than rebuilding my Kayfun, primarily because of the gurgling issues that plague protanks. If you think you might do any rebuilding whatsoever and are committed to getting a tank I recommend you go with the Kayfun.

 

[theCannibalGirl]

Thanks for all the information on building coils. I really don't think its something for me. I don't have the dexterity in my fingers to work on something so small.

I might look into it later on and have the hubby do it.

Is there another tank other than the Kayfun, AeroTank Mega and the Nautilus that's worth looking into?

 

[Garym93]

I'm bookmarking this thread. Great coil building resources are linked throughout. Thanks to y'all who did that.

(And I'm a Rip Trippers fan, anyway.)

But I'm moving more and more towards CannibalGirl's position on the matter of building. I've only built one coil so far. It was for a Kayfun 3.1. A large tank, and a large coil deck to work with. I want to try - just once - building a coil for my beloved PT3. I think after I do that, I'll probably never want to do it again.

I've always been a very tech savvy person. I disassembled and reassembled my toys starting at age 4, and even the more complex ones never gave me a problem. I'd often find ways to make them better, in fact. But building a coil for vaping is simply below my minimum scale threshold. I felt like I was trying to join electrons when I built my KF coil. And that was a larger platform. The work is just too small for me.

I'm sure it's largely because I've lost the very sharp eyesight I've had throughout my life. I have to wear 1.50x glasses for "normal" existence - TV viewing, reading medium-sized text, cooking, etc. I have to go up to 2.00x ones for any small work. And I have to couple using my 2.00x glasses with using my big, armature-mounted magnifying glass to do really small work. It's just not fun when I am at the lower limit of my ability to see and handle something.

I can rebuild a mean engine. I can install a cold air intake, and underdrive pulleys, and high-flow fuel injectors and a low resistance exhaust system and get great results from it all, and enjoy doing it all as well. Because those items are larger than ten electrons wide. Building coils isn't. (Yes, I'm exaggerating, but y'all get my drift, I think.)

I'm 6'4" and I have big hands. I don't enjoy doing little work. And I hate that I don't enjoy it. I think building your own coils is smart and efficient and thrifty. And yet I just won't like doing it, I'm pretty certain. I'll try it once or twice more, but unless it grows on me in a big way (no pun intended), I'll just buy my coils from now on, and at some point, I'll have to just lay down my Kayfun. As much as that will break my heart.

I can't buy coils for my Kayfun. But I can get my PT3 coils for under $2 each. I'm fine with that. A PT3 coil lasts me over a week. I use about $5 worth of electric juice per week. Under $7 per week as my expenditure to vape is an amount that I will never complain about. Not even once. Compared to the $43 per week I spent on cigarettes? Under $7 per week. I'll never complain.

And if, at any time in the future, I fear the FDA will be banning the sale of replaceable coils, and the use of wire and cotton by Americans, then I will quickly hoard as many replacement coils as possible for my PT3, Nautilus, Aerotank or any other changeable coil device I'll ever have. And I'll hoard cartos for my cartotanks as well.

To answer the OP, I actually LOVE my Protank 3. I love it. It's my current favorite tank. I like the flavor I get, I like the vapor I get, I like the amount of electric juice it holds, I like its method of refilling, I like it's method of coil replacement ... everything.

But I do get more flavor from a cartotank, just as Tinkiegrrl says. And, as such, I love my SmokTech DCT. I'm going to get a better cartotank solution at some point. I love the flavor kick I get from cartotanks. The catches are that they're harder to fill, harder to replace the coil (i.e., carto) and they can be messy for a semi-klutz like me. So they're not my favorite vapor delivery device. When considering all the factors, I still prefer the PT3. But I will still buy and use cartotanks because they fill a niche in my vaping that's important to me. One that my PT3 doesn't fill.

Regarding the Nautilus and the Aerotank - I haven't tried either yet, but I'm going to buy one of each because I've heard about an equal number of ECFers tout each of them. I bet they're both great clearos, and it's probably a matter of discreet design or functional preference that steers a person more towards one or the other. Maybe I'll like the Nautilus capacity and coils better, but maybe I'll prefer the fill method and airflow control of the Aerotank better. Who knows until I get into each one.

I just doubt you could buy either of them and end up hating it.

You can get prebuilt microcoil a for your kayfun. I know it kind of defeats the purpose but if you like it that much it might be worth it for you


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