Need my throat hit!!!!

[bnrkwest]

The best TH and tobacco flavors I have gotten is from Halo, I use a Halo G6 and the TH is powerful even on .6 nic. If you draw too strong it will put me into a coughing fit, sort of like a real cig! ha ha So I have not missed anything using an ecig for TH, I get plenty. I used their 12 and 6 nic levels, all give TH. bnrk

 

[Nikkita6]

I say try a Menthol e-juice if really good TH is what you want ... now b4 you make a face, I personally do not smoke menthol analogs (yuk) however, vaping Menthol really does produce a realistic, analog like TH IMO. Menthol was recommended to me by another non-menthol ex-analog smoker because of the realistic TH.

 

[wv2win]

I've heard people talk about throat hit booster that I believe you add to the juice, I'm not sure what it is though, maybe someone who knows can chime in?

They don't work. They can provide throat irritation but not good throat hit.

 

[madjack]

...don't know for sure but I think most of those TH enhancers are either just PGA or pepper juice or some similar irritant......
madjack

 

[Mindfield]

What is in the TH booster depends on who's making it. I'm actually evaluating TH boosters currently, and have already done a review on Throat Hit Plus from The Vapor Pro. (Cliff notes: Doesn't work.) Throat Hit Plus I think though, despite what I said in my video, is strictly PGA diluted with perhaps some other stuff, and I don't think there's any capsaicin in it.

I also have Flash from FlavourArt (a booster/nic alternative) coming (should be here soon) and Diablo Loco from Totally Wicked on the way as well. I don't know what's in Flash, but it is a reformulated version of their QHit booster that can be used as a booster or a complete nic replacement apparently, so I'm interested in trying that. Diablo Loco is a straight up capsaicin solution that comes concentrated at 500,000 SHU (police-grade pepper spray, red savina pepper, or Blair's 2AM hot sauce level) and is meant to be diluted way down to use as a booster. (Although ECF user Sedateme vaped it straight, the crazy bastage.) I'll be reviewing both. I'm hoping one of them will pan out and work well as a booster.

I have also tried a black pepper essence that I made up and tried, but I really didn't like the sharp TH it gave nor the peppery flavour it imparted. (I like pepper, but not in a vape unless it's used sparingly in a flavour recipe that it works well with.)

 

[DaveP]

Awesome Vapor RY4 in a Boge LR carto will knock your socks off. Another is FreedomSmokesUSA Wyatt Earp.

 

[SteevieG]

Hi, I'm not a newbi but far from a vet. I'm 8 months into this and have gradually worked down to 0 nicotine using V4L batteries and mostly their juice. At 4 mg nicotine the TH was acceptable as I was used to a lesser effect. However, at 0 I'm not at all satisfied. The whole point of this is to eventually give up all inhaling, but the loss of TH at 0 is disconcerting.

I've read through I don't know how many threads and seem to have come to the conclusion that adding pure grain alcohol to the 0 nicotine juice might do the trick. Or menthol. Or..... Can anyone give a definitive answer as to whether or not I'll ever get any semblance of TH n 0 nicotine using a V4L batter and carto? I hate to be so blunt, but 8 months with this stuff and I seem to be hitting a wall I'd rather avoid.

Thank you all for so much infromation and support.

 

[Mindfield]

Hi, I'm not a newbi but far from a vet. I'm 8 months into this and have gradually worked down to 0 nicotine using V4L batteries and mostly their juice. At 4 mg nicotine the TH was acceptable as I was used to a lesser effect. However, at 0 I'm not at all satisfied. The whole point of this is to eventually give up all inhaling, but the loss of TH at 0 is disconcerting.

I've read through I don't know how many threads and seem to have come to the conclusion that adding pure grain alcohol to the 0 nicotine juice might do the trick. Or menthol. Or..... Can anyone give a definitive answer as to whether or not I'll ever get any semblance of TH n 0 nicotine using a V4L batter and carto? I hate to be so blunt, but 8 months with this stuff and I seem to be hitting a wall I'd rather avoid.

Thank you all for so much infromation and support.

A capsaicin-based additive will give you a TH. Whether it's the kind of TH you might consider acceptable is another matter, but I have some on the way which I will be reviewing when it gets here. Flash from FlavourArt might be another option too, but again, haven't tried it yet and have some on the way to be given the same treatment. Flash is designed as an alternative to nicotine though so it's intended to give TH without nicotine, so that one is going to be interesting to try out.

 

[SteevieG]

Looking at the Flash, is it something you add to 0 nic juice or is it a "vape on it's own juice", for lack of a better phrase?

 

[Mindfield]

Looking at the Flash, is it something you add to 0 nic juice or is it a "vape on it's own juice", for lack of a better phrase?

Its primary function is to be vaped straight up, either pre-flavoured or with your own flavouring added. However its properties could also make it a good booster mixed with your own nic-based juice to boost TH without increasing or even allowing you to decrease nicotine levels.

 

[SteevieG]

Thanks for your replies. So, it's possible to have them flavour the flash with other 0 nicotine flavors? Sorry for the silly questions.... I've never done DIY.

 

[Mindfield]

Thanks for your replies. So, it's possible to have them flavour the flash with other 0 nicotine flavors? Sorry for the silly questions.... I've never done DIY.

Absolutely. If you order direct from FlavourArt (can be expensive with 20% tax and duty fees for over $20 order) you can have them flavour it with up to a 3 flavour combo. Or you can just buy some flavourings from one of the usual places and add at about 5-10% to unflavoured Flash.

Again though I haven't tried it yet, I'm expecting it to arrive pretty soon (my order was being processed as of September 9th, so I expect it shipped shortly after that via ground, which I'd gather is a good 3 weeks or more) so I'll be able to give it a thorough testing once I've had a chance to try. If it's good I'm hoping to get Happy Vaper and possibly Liberty Flights to start carrying it, since they're both registered distributors for FlavourArt.

 

[wv2win]

Anyone who has vaped at 5 volt or variable volt (4.4 - 5.0 volt) levels with 18mg - 24mg knows what good, non-irritating throat hit truely is. It would be great if just adding something to the eliquid could do that. We could all vape small mini-PV's with 0 nic. and be happy. I haven't tried every additive on the market but have tried 5 - 6 of them and none of them are even remotely close to good throat hit. Throat irritation, yes. Now if someone truely doesn't like throat hit and is fine with 4mg liquid on a mini model, then probably just about any additive might do the trick. But when I see a post from someone who vapes at that level and states that "such & such" additive gives great throat hit, either they are blowing smoke or they have no clue what good throat hit truely is. The day I see someone who regularly vapes in the 5 volt area with 18mg+ liquid state they have found an additive that duplicates the "inhaled feel" of an analog, I will be getting some myself.

 

[Mindfield]

Anyone who has vaped at 5 volt or variable volt (4.4 - 5.0 volt) levels with 18mg - 24mg knows what good, non-irritating throat hit truely is. It would be great if just adding something to the eliquid could do that. We could all vape small mini-PV's with 0 nic. and be happy. I haven't tried every additive on the market but have tried 5 - 6 of them and none of them are even remotely close to good throat hit. Throat irritation, yes. Now if someone truely doesn't like throat hit and is fine with 4mg liquid on a mini model, then probably just about any additive might do the trick. But when I see a post from someone who vapes at that level and states that "such & such" additive gives great throat hit, either they are blowing smoke or they have no clue what good throat hit truely is. The day I see someone who regularly vapes in the 5 volt area with 18mg+ liquid state they have found an additive that duplicates the "inhaled feel" of an analog, I will be getting some myself.

Well, wait 'til my reviews hit. I know exactly what you're talking about and haven't found it yet, but if one of the ones I have arriving, or some blend thereof, manages to replicate the feel of a proper TH then I'll be gushing all about it. I don't necessarily want to drop to 0mg nic, but I'd like to get down to 5 or 6 while still managing to get a TH equivalent around 12-18 that is as smooth as a real 18mg hit.

 

[wv2win]

Well, wait 'til my reviews hit. I know exactly what you're talking about and haven't found it yet, but if one of the ones I have arriving, or some blend thereof, manages to replicate the feel of a proper TH then I'll be gushing all about it. I don't necessarily want to drop to 0mg nic, but I'd like to get down to 5 or 6 while still managing to get a TH equivalent around 12-18 that is as smooth as a real 18mg hit.

Do you vape in the 4.5 - 5 volt range? If so, I will look forward to your report.

 

[Mindfield]

Do you vape in the 4.5 - 5 volt range? If so, I will look forward to your report.

Yes. Typically 4-4.5v on 2.6-2.8ohm Fluxomizer Deluxes depending on the juice, or 4.5-5V when I mod them into a tank. (For some reason I can push them up to 1v higher in a tank without getting a burnt taste, so I do.)

 

[SteevieG]

Anyone who has vaped at 5 volt or variable volt (4.4 - 5.0 volt) levels with 18mg - 24mg knows what good, non-irritating throat hit truely is. It would be great if just adding something to the eliquid could do that. We could all vape small mini-PV's with 0 nic. and be happy. I haven't tried every additive on the market but have tried 5 - 6 of them and none of them are even remotely close to good throat hit. Throat irritation, yes. Now if someone truely doesn't like throat hit and is fine with 4mg liquid on a mini model, then probably just about any additive might do the trick. But when I see a post from someone who vapes at that level and states that "such & such" additive gives great throat hit, either they are blowing smoke or they have no clue what good throat hit truely is. The day I see someone who regularly vapes in the 5 volt area with 18mg+ liquid state they have found an additive that duplicates the "inhaled feel" of an analog, I will be getting some myself.

Again, I'm surely not a vet and I don't get into the X voltage, mods and all that stuff. I'm just a guy who's been using the simple little batteries with what I deem to be good success for me and would never get snobby about it like I've seen some. I'm just replying and asking questions in a thread about what I and others deem to be "throat hit". Though it may not be what the perceived snobs in this venture would call it, I and many others still refer to it as such. And if an additive that is not harmful will help me find a reasonable facsimile with my little "Mini-PV", then great. If not, then I'll continue to do what I've been doing and leave the snobbery to others.

 

[ditc]

+10000000000

Again, I'm surely not a vet and I don't get into the X voltage, mods and all that stuff. I'm just a guy who's been using the simple little batteries with what I deem to be good success for me and would never get snobby about it like I've seen some. I'm just replying and asking questions in a thread about what I and others deem to be "throat hit". Though it may not be what the perceived snobs in this venture would call it, I and many others still refer to it as such. And if an additive that is not harmful will help me find a reasonable facsimile with my little "Mini-PV", then great. If not, then I'll continue to do what I've been doing and leave the snobbery to others.

 

[Momster]

I think adding menthol to any juice will give it a kick in the throat hit department. Also, Vapor4Life WOW juices are 100% PG and can kick it up a little. Finally, my favorite juice for getting a satisfying throat hit is Wyatt Earp from freedomsmokeusa. You may also try to up the nic level because the nic has a kick of its own that will tweak the juice to have improved throat hit qualities. I wish you luck on your quest!

 

[Mindfield]

Menthol does not give throat hit in the sense that we're talking about throat hit. The way some talk about throat hit here seems to refer to any sort of sensation in the throat or lungs, be it cooling or warming or whatever, and that is not what I would consider throat hit.

Properly, throat hit is that momentary clenching feeling right around the trachea, a strong but brief burst of sensation that is completely independent from the effects of the sensations attained from menthol or cinnamaldehydes or the like. It's provided exclusively by the nicotine in regular juices; if you get a juice whose flavour you feel has throat hit, but get it in 0mg nicotine and vape it, whatever effects you get from that nic-less juice are not part of the throat hit we're talking about. And no, in my experience, PGA (or vodka) do not give or even boost TH to any significant degree, at least not in the concentrations typically used for such; they only give a warming sensation some might be calling throat hit, but which does not qualify as far as I'm concerned.

It seems to be difficult if not impossible to replicate the exact feeling of that throat hit, which is why I'm experimenting with different formulations. So far I've tried (and flunked) Throat Hit Plus from The Vapor Pros, which seems to rely mainly on PGA, but which simply doesn't work at all, especially at the levels they suggest you use it at. Next will probably be Flash, followed by Diablo Loco, and then maybe some experimentation with blends of two or all three to see what experience that provides.