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  1. Kaedinsdad

    Kaedinsdad Full Member Verified Member

    Hey all,

    Ive been diying for about a month and still havent got a wow thats good bottle made. It seems like my juices are lacking sweetness and flavor. Im using all TFA flavoring wiz labs vg and pg and rts nic. I shoot for 10% total flavorings and use splendex as a sweetener. I have a buddy that uses all the same stuff and his juices taste great. I usually stick to 50/50 blends.
    I use a app called liqiux as i have a mac and cant get the ejuice me up calculator.
    on this app it saves all my flavors and I put them in at 100% pg since there made of pg(is this correct)?
    Most of the times its very muted with the flavors or its too much
    any help would be wonderful
  2. Train2

    Train2 ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 11, 2013
    CA, USA
    Maybe post a full recipe and let people give it a lookover!
  3. CraftyZA

    CraftyZA Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 27, 2013
    South Africa
    After mixing the flavor in the pg, let it stand for 2 days before adding the correct amount of nicotine.
    Will also help if we can see the recipe. I'm no pro, but will be glad to help!
  4. Kaedinsdad

    Kaedinsdad Full Member Verified Member

    strawberry pie
    6% nic
    50/50 blend
    7% TFA strawberry
    2% TFA cheese cake graham crust
    2% sweetner
    2% bavarian cream
    6% whipped cream

    taste like crap very sharp just bla

    6% nic
    50/50 blend
    2% lorann vanilla
    1% lorann butter
    2% cream cheese icing TFA
    5% cinnamon roll Lorann
    2 drops of splendex
  5. john333

    john333 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 20, 2011
    mix up a 5ml of just pg vg and nic at your normal levels. no flavoring. it should be a little sweet with a nice throat hit. me and several others I have talked to here vape unflavored from time to time just for a change of pace. If yours taste bad with a harsh throat hit then its your nic solution that's the problem. good luck. by the way, I get my nic solution from RTS Vapes and its excellent.
  6. Hoofhearted62

    Hoofhearted62 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 25, 2013
    South Park, Pa. USA
    try these recommended percentages... these are all for TFA flavors

    Absinthe: 10%
    Almond Amaretto: 5-10%, 5/5
    Apple: 10-15%, 4.5/5
    Banana Cream 10%-15%
    Banana Nut Bread: 5-7% (Great for mixing)
    Bavarian Cream 5%-15%
    Belgium Waffle 8-!2% 4/5
    Bittersweet (Choc): 10-15%, 4/5
    Black Cherry: 5-15%, 5/5
    Black Honey Tobacco: 3-5%
    Blackberry: 6%
    Black Sesame 1/10% (per eikon) that's .1 of a percent
    Black Tea 2.5-12% 3/5 needs a little steeping
    Blueberry: 15%
    Blueberry Extra: 6/5 10-13%
    Boysenberry: 5/5 ~1% (a dash of EM & Citric make it sing)
    Brown Sugar 15-20%
    Bubblegum: 10%>
    Butterscotch: 12%
    Caramel: 10-15%, 5/5
    Caramel Candy: 15-20%, 5/5
    Caramel Cappuccino: 1 drop in 10ml base 4/5
    Chai Tea: 10% 5/5 Very Unique, a must try
    Champagne: 7%
    Cheesecake: 3%-15%, 2/5
    Cherry Blossom; 15%
    Chocolate: 10-15%, 5/5
    Chocolate Mint: 10% (more chocolate than mint)
    Cinnamon: 0.25% (Just Sweet Cinnamon)
    Cinnamon Red Hots: 5-15%, 5/5
    Cinnamon Spice: 0.5% Okay Starting Point
    Cinnamon Sugar Cookie: 5%-15%
    Clove: 2-3%
    Coconut Extra: ~10%, 5/5
    Cotton Candy: 10-20%, 5/5
    DK Tab 555: 2%-5%
    Dragon Fruit: 5-12%
    Double Chocolate (Clear) 10-12% 4/5
    Dulce de Leche: <10%> - overpowering at 20% - good for combining
    Earl Grey: 3% (This is a strong Tea)
    English Toffee: 15-17%
    Flue Cured Tobacco: 8-15% 5/5
    French Vanilla: 10% (For me: Gets chemical/perfume tones over 5%)
    Graham Cracker: 10-15%, 5/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others.
    Grape: 12%
    Grape Jolly Rancher: 8% - 10% 6/5
    Green Apple: 12-20%
    Green Tea: 10-15% 4/5
    Hawaiian Punch 12% 5/5
    Hazelnut 16% 5/5
    Hazelnut Praline: 5%, 2/5
    Hibiscus 1% (Start at 0.5%)
    Holiday Spice 1-2% (start at 0.5%)
    Honey: 1-5% (Very present at 5%)
    Honeydew Melon: 5-10%
    Honeysuckle: 10- 15% - very good but FYI will crack a tank
    Horchata: 5%, 5/5
    Irish Cream: 10 - 12%
    Juicy Peach 5%- 17%
    Key Lime Pie 12%
    Kona Coffee: 1drop/10ml, 4/5
    Lemon/Lime 5% 4/5
    Licorice 5/5 10% needs a few weeks to steep
    Lime (oil-based): 1-5%, 4/5
    M-type Tobacco- 1% for starters... It requires a loooong steep!
    Malted Milk: 5% (best mixed with other others)
    Mango: 13%
    Maple Syrup: 10-15%
    Marischino Cherry: 5%, 4/5
    Menthol Liquid ( PG ): 1-5%
    Milk Chocolate: 20%, 4/5
    Mint Candy: 12%, 4.5/5
    Mt. Dew 10%-20%
    Nectarine: 11% (Spot On)
    Orange Cream: 5-10% 5/5 (To note, I am using all vg . So, I use it at higher %'s)
    Papaya: 10% 5-5 (Very Fragrant)
    Peach (not juicy) 12-15%
    Peach (juicy): 5-7% 5/5
    Peanut Butter: 10-15%, 5/5
    Pear: 10-15%, 4.5/5
    Peppermint: 15%
    Pie Crust 0.5%-12% 2/5 Adjusted minimum from 2% to 0.5%
    Pineapple: 15% 4.5/5 ( authentic flavor, I used 5% EM to sweeten)
    Pizza: ~5%, 5/5
    Plum: 5-10%, 4/5
    Pomegranate: 7.5%-14%
    Popcorn: 13%-15%
    Raisin: 0.5-3% (Powerful) I dilute mine before mixing 1:3
    Red Bull: 10%
    Ripe Banana: 8-12% (3-5% EM to make it a good stand alone flavor)
    RY4 Double- 5-15%
    RY4 Asian: 10-15%
    Smooth 1 drops per 10 ml
    Spearmint: <5% Very strong start small
    Strawberry: 3%-15%
    Strawberry Kiwi 20% 1/5
    Strawberries & Cream: 10-12% (good on its own, better with 3-5% EM)
    Sweet Cream: 5-10%, 4/5 - This flavor recommended for combining with others.
    Sweet Tart: 10%, 5/5 - Tastes more like Smarties
    Sweetener (Liquid): 4-6% (higher than 6% can be required, less strong than crystals)
    Tangerine (oil-based): 1-5%, 5/5
    Tiramisu 2%-15% Over 5% tastes like burned coffee
    Tobacco Blend Alcohol: 0.5-2.5%
    Toasted Marshmallow: 10-15%
    Toasted Almond: 15%
    Tobacco Absolute (TA): <1%
    Tutti Frutti: 10-15%, 4.5/5 (closer to 15% the more VG I use)
    Vanilla Bean Ice Cream: 4-8%, 4/5 (excellent mixer)
    Vanilla Bourbon: 10-15%, 4.5/5
    Vanilla Cupcake: 20%
    Vanilla Swirl: 10%
    Violet Candy: 10 - 12% (one of my favorite vapes)
    Waffle: 20%, 5/5
    Watermelon: 15% 4/5
    Whipped Cream 3% to 14% 3/5
    White Chocolate: 10% (note: mine had sugar as ingredient)
    Wintergreen: 20%, 5/5
    PA Sucralose Sweetener: 0.5%--2%+, 4.5/5
  7. michaelsil1

    michaelsil1 Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Mar 21, 2013
    Los Angeles
    I agree, start with just your base and see what it tastes like.
  8. Hoosier

    Hoosier Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jan 26, 2010
    Heck. I'm just wondering where the 10% came from.

    Out of the entire first post, that was the most fascinating thing.
  9. Hoofhearted62

    Hoofhearted62 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 25, 2013
    South Park, Pa. USA
    looks like 19% first one and 12% second one to me...
  10. Cookster

    Cookster Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 5, 2011
    Looks to me like you've got too many flavorings in one mix, which can cancel each other out, and make the mix "meh"

    I would figure out the dominant flavor you want your mix to taste like, have that be the largest percentage. In the Strawberry mix, I would up the strawberry, and lower the Whipped Cream. I also think the sweetener is too high. Try 1 drop per 5mls. In the Sinful, I would up the Cinnamon Roll.

    Sometimes, it's better/easier to make your single flavors to determine what percentage they work at. Then, you can either mix them, or tweak them.
  11. tdavids

    tdavids Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 23, 2012
    I'm very new to DIY and I am only making single flavor mixes at this point. I start with 5ml in a 10ml bottle and vape that. If I like it I'll make a 30 and think about what it could use or not use.
  12. mrcoolbp

    mrcoolbp Senior Member ECF Veteran

    This is very good advice. I'm still newer (only about 4 months making juice) and most of my recipes are 1 or 2 flavors and maybe one additive. Start with simple recipes and work your way up. Maybe try nailing one of your friends recipes. Maybe he could help.
  13. LaWatusi

    LaWatusi Full Member

    May 15, 2013
    Seattle, WA, USA
    Hmmmm... I make this exact same Strawberry Pie recipe all the time and I think it's absolutely delicious. It's one of my all time favorite recipes! I mix it 70/30 at 18mg nic. Even though this recipe has so many ingredients, I can taste each and every flavor individually and I think that's what makes it so great. It's soooooo good! :confused:
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