Nemesis clone nightmare - need help please...
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Yes that is indeed the problem.
I will have a new mod once my slow boat from China arrives though. Then I'm thinking I might taking this crappy one I have now and remove all the pins and switch material, then line the inside of the top and bottom caps with rubber or something equally non-conductive. Then I'll have a simple case to hold an extra battery in my purse when I go out
that way my old mod won't be totally useless after all.It's either that or I turn it into a fancy new pen holder for my desk
You know there are authentic mods for less than $100. Check out Super T or Beyond Vape. Both make mods under $100; $70 and $65 respectively. The Beacon is $65 from Beyond Vape and is quite well made and functions excellently.
If all of the parts work as intended straight out of the box, then it doesn't matter. I'm not looking for something that will last 10 years, I just want something that will work straight out of the box without me having to send it back or replace parts immediately, and hopefully it will work for a year or two.
My major issue with the last two was that they were defective straight out of the box. I won't have to worry about buying replacement parts that fit if it doesn't actually need replacement parts. I can focus on narrowing my search for easier to fix mods later, right now I just want one that will do its job.
Thank you for the tip. I like beyond vape's sage
perhaps a christmas present for myself? You are looking for fiddle free quality and buying cheap clones.
Clones are cheap for a reason. Either you must accept that you may have to fiddle with them/adjust them/tinker with them or get lucky with a perfect clone that is great out of the box (some are, some are not).
I have had good luck with the most expensive nemesis at fasttech. You didn't buy that one. The one you bought may or may not be trouble free. That's the way clones go.
Perhaps one authentic (a reasonably priced one) should be on your radar.
3 crappy clones would buy a Super-T.
Clones are a gamble. I've got a few pretty crummy ones, but can't complain. They're clones.
That being said, my Nemesis clones are my favorite mods. Even more so then a $250 authentic mod (not a Nemesis). So much so, that I will eventually be purchasing an authentic Nemesis with the new CNC engraved logos. So damn sexy.....
But if I were to be in the market for another Nemesis clone, I would put my money down for the $26 Fasttech version. I have one of these as well as an HCigar version, and I find the Fasttech version to be the nicer of the two overall, in terms of fit and finish.
EDIT: Pick up the 10 pack of switch magnets while you're there. I don't think they sell them by the pair anymore.
That being said, my Nemesis clones are my favorite mods. Even more so then a $250 authentic mod (not a Nemesis). So much so, that I will eventually be purchasing an authentic Nemesis with the new CNC engraved logos. So damn sexy.....
But if I were to be in the market for another Nemesis clone, I would put my money down for the $26 Fasttech version. I have one of these as well as an HCigar version, and I find the Fasttech version to be the nicer of the two overall, in terms of fit and finish.
EDIT: Pick up the 10 pack of switch magnets while you're there. I don't think they sell them by the pair anymore.
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I have heard good things about hcigar clones in general. I personally dont have experience with their products, but I have friends who use them happily. I have an infinite nemesis clone that has been working great, I know sevenvapes sells them, 101 vapes also sells plenty of clones for good prices, and plenty of hcigar clones. I hope you have better luck getting a clone that is better quality.
another option you could take is the smoktech magneto, its a mech mod as well and its around 40- 50 bucks.
another option you could take is the smoktech magneto, its a mech mod as well and its around 40- 50 bucks.
Ok everybody, I get the point. Clones are bad. In fact, I got it the first 500 times I read that on this forum. Why does everyone seem to forget here that I am not asking for super high quality perfection, I am only asking for something that works. Period. I have also read on this forum, many more than 500 times, that most people who have clones like them. I have a hard time believing that the authentic version is always the best, much less believing that I should only expect basic functionality if I buy authentic. That kind of logic is flawed based on the simple fact that if clones did not work, no one would buy them. So in order to even be able to sell these products, the vast majority must be expected to work.
Also, I am feeling the need to remind those reading this thread that I happened to end up with two clones in a row with severe manufacturing defects from the same vendor. So as far as I can tell, this is not a clone issue. It is a manufacturer/vendor issue, which means chances are pretty high that if I buy from a different vendor, I will not have problems of such severity. All I ask for is something that works. I don't mind if I have to fiddle with it to get it to work, or if I need to upgrade it to make it easier to use or make it work better. I do mind if I need a machine shop, or to buy replacement parts, in order to get it to work when I first got it. That, imo, is a product that should not have been sold, clone or not. My problem, as I originally stated it, was never just because I bought a clone - it is because I bought a clone from someone who sells terrible clones. There is a difference.
This kind of argument is reminding me over and over of people who wear really expensive, brand name clothes, then tell you it's your fault for buying cheap clothes when a thread comes out the first week you wear your new shirt. Yes, of course you're more likely to have problems with cheap clothes, but that doesn't mean you should expect to have such problems as a universal give-in, because it is still an unlikely occurrence. Nor does it actually help to solve the problem when your main piece of advice is to tell someone to live outside their means. No matter how sound the advice may seem to you, it does not help if it does not actually apply to that person.
Now that that rant's out of the way...
Anumber, I know I did not get the same clone you recommended. I still was very careful with my choice, the one I chose and similar models got many excellent reviews. (In sharp contrast, the reviews popping up now for the nemesis clones on MFS's website are pretty scary...). As I said above, if I have to fiddle with it that's fine, as long as it doesn't require more machining. We shall see when I get it.
VaPries, I thought about the magnet switches, and I decided to wait and see how I feel about it when I get it. I can tell by the lopsided nemesis I have that as long as I use a flat top battery the switch doesn't catch. If I decide I really want them I'll throw them in on my next order.
Blind illusion, ty for the ideas. I'll take a look at them.
Also, I am feeling the need to remind those reading this thread that I happened to end up with two clones in a row with severe manufacturing defects from the same vendor. So as far as I can tell, this is not a clone issue. It is a manufacturer/vendor issue, which means chances are pretty high that if I buy from a different vendor, I will not have problems of such severity. All I ask for is something that works. I don't mind if I have to fiddle with it to get it to work, or if I need to upgrade it to make it easier to use or make it work better. I do mind if I need a machine shop, or to buy replacement parts, in order to get it to work when I first got it. That, imo, is a product that should not have been sold, clone or not. My problem, as I originally stated it, was never just because I bought a clone - it is because I bought a clone from someone who sells terrible clones. There is a difference.
This kind of argument is reminding me over and over of people who wear really expensive, brand name clothes, then tell you it's your fault for buying cheap clothes when a thread comes out the first week you wear your new shirt. Yes, of course you're more likely to have problems with cheap clothes, but that doesn't mean you should expect to have such problems as a universal give-in, because it is still an unlikely occurrence. Nor does it actually help to solve the problem when your main piece of advice is to tell someone to live outside their means. No matter how sound the advice may seem to you, it does not help if it does not actually apply to that person.
Now that that rant's out of the way... Anumber, I know I did not get the same clone you recommended. I still was very careful with my choice, the one I chose and similar models got many excellent reviews. (In sharp contrast, the reviews popping up now for the nemesis clones on MFS's website are pretty scary...). As I said above, if I have to fiddle with it that's fine, as long as it doesn't require more machining. We shall see when I get it.
VaPries, I thought about the magnet switches, and I decided to wait and see how I feel about it when I get it. I can tell by the lopsided nemesis I have that as long as I use a flat top battery the switch doesn't catch. If I decide I really want them I'll throw them in on my next order.
Blind illusion, ty for the ideas. I'll take a look at them.
I'm not sure if this has been said yet but, from what I've gathered from this thread, a mech mod may not be the best option for you right now. May I recommend a regulated mod? Something that that has built in safety features and will make your vaping experience a little simpler. You can get an mvp or a z-max pretty cheap these days.
Check the classies, folks are dumping some really nice mods right now, cheap!
Check the classies, folks are dumping some really nice mods right now, cheap!
For the OP.
I didn't just recommend the FT clone that I did because it is the only one I know.
I have bought quite a few Nemesis clones from fasttech.
The SKU# https://www.fasttech.com/p/1448300
Is the only one I have bought from FT that was good to go out of the box. Four, (yes, four) other ones purchased from FT were crap. Bad machining, non- standard threading, short/long battery tubes, mis-threaded 510 connections.
I have purchased three of the nemesis clones I recommended and all have been superb quality.
I understand you don't want to purchase junk. I also get it that you are going to buy a pretty looking mod and not worry because it was pretty may not be a very good clone. It was pretty!
Fasttech sells as much junk as they sell quality. I hope you get lucky with a good one.
I didn't just recommend the FT clone that I did because it is the only one I know.
I have bought quite a few Nemesis clones from fasttech.
The SKU# https://www.fasttech.com/p/1448300
Is the only one I have bought from FT that was good to go out of the box. Four, (yes, four) other ones purchased from FT were crap. Bad machining, non- standard threading, short/long battery tubes, mis-threaded 510 connections.
I have purchased three of the nemesis clones I recommended and all have been superb quality.
I understand you don't want to purchase junk. I also get it that you are going to buy a pretty looking mod and not worry because it was pretty may not be a very good clone. It was pretty!
Fasttech sells as much junk as they sell quality. I hope you get lucky with a good one.
To the op: vaperoyalty has hcigar nemeisis - I bought the least expensive hcigar nem - for a first mech I did not go wrong with that model or the vendor
Hope this helps
Hope this helps
I'm glad you clarified that. It did sound very much like the one you recommended was the only one you got from fasttech.
I didn't just buy the blue one because it was pretty
it was just convenient that the option of different colors was there. I got that one because it and all of the other identical models in different colors got tons of good reviews, which suggests to me that if I do get one that is defective (at least to the point where I can't fix it, as in the MFS clones), then it would be an unusual occurrence, because people are generally more likely to leave a review for something if it's bad. Also it was 7 dollars cheaper. This one is made of stainless steel, the threads aren't painted and it is well constructed and works fine (according to both the pictures and the reviews). I stayed away from the cheapest clones and the ones made of aluminum. I was a lot more careful picking it out than you're making it sound. Yes I need something that works, but I also need to balance that with my limited budget, and if I have the opportunity I may as well get something I know I'll like, because at the end of the day there is no point in spending more than I can afford on something I may not want. Fwiw, I have yet to meet one guy who understands why looks are ever a factor in my decision making process, so you're not alone there but it was not the only factor, nor the most important. It was simply nice to have the option. I do wish I would have known about your other clones before I made that purchase. But what's done is done, I can't change the past. We'll see what I get then. If it's crap then I learned my lesson the hard way. Hopefully it'll work out fine. I don't plan on buying another mod for a while after this, so that'll give me some time to look at different stores and save some money for a nicer model. Everyone here keeps raving about hcigar, so perhaps I'll check them out for my next one.
Clones are bad? 
Horse Hockey - that is almost all I own and they work great.
I do have a few Originals..........from China
I have read more than a few complaints of issues with Originals also............Like first gen Roller Switch issues, early Caravela Springs constantly failing, etc.
Hey, if it is built by man, man can break it.
Horse Hockey - that is almost all I own and they work great.
I do have a few Originals..........from China
I have read more than a few complaints of issues with Originals also............Like first gen Roller Switch issues, early Caravela Springs constantly failing, etc.
Hey, if it is built by man, man can break it.
My mom let me borrow her mvp while my nemesis was being replaced. It was ok... I wasn't as impressed as I could have been. I didn't like the way the button felt or the location of it, and varying voltage and wattage didn't really do much for me - I do fine using a standard 18650 battery with my rebuilt coils. In the end I found the nemesis simpler to use, plus I like being able to open it all the way to tinker with it. The mvp doesn't allow that, tho I liked the feel of the box mod, I may get one of those in the future.
I do want to get into the classifieds
I still have to get verified for that tho... in the future I will, for sure! I like the idea of buying a used mod 
I love my Ehpro Stingray clone. As well as my Ehpro TOBH. They perform well and have never had any issues. Just my 2 cents [emoji4]It could be EHPro. I don't know where they get their clones from, but I do know that whoever made them is awful with quality and consistency, since both the original and the replacement have machining errors. I look forward to having at least one authentic clone when I have gainful employment
How do you go about finding out if a clone is actually 1:1? I know some vendors can say that's what they sell, but how do you know for sure?
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Ok...the nemesis clone is personal to me-it was one of my first official mech mods and I bonded with it...through trauma. The top cap threading issue is one I have seen on tons of clones-the tolerances aren't great and they don't match up. A lot of the suppliers who were ordering these clones sent so much product back (arching issues mainly) that the factories started revamping the threading. That is probably why your new cap is off the mark. My own personal Nemesis worked great with a ...warm button-then it got hot. I literally blistered once with the stock spring switch, switched to magnets-blistered again and then the pin came lose and made contact and burned my whole hand while I tried pulling it apart before it vented.
I will say this-it gave me two gifts, I learned more about mech mods and clones doing research to figure it out and then more about safety than I ever thought I would so I am grateful to that angry little device...sorry to go on for a while-bottom line is the Nemesis clones have thin aluminum walls and very tight threading so if it is not perfect it will disappoint somewhere-I always like to think simple is better with clones (Three tubes instead of breakdown mods)
READ BELOW ONLY TO AVOID MY NEMESIS STORY
Now that I have hijacked my response into a dear diary about MY nemi-this is my advice. Every store I have been into has a graveyard junk box full of parts of mods and atty's they have taken apart or that have gone bad and with the hot button issue and the age of the nemi I can say with confidence that some store will have spare parts-I would call around or go into these stores and see if they have anything that will fit-nothing to lose and in the end of all things the nemi is still one of the most comfortable mods in the world to use so it might be worth saving
I will say this-it gave me two gifts, I learned more about mech mods and clones doing research to figure it out and then more about safety than I ever thought I would so I am grateful to that angry little device...sorry to go on for a while-bottom line is the Nemesis clones have thin aluminum walls and very tight threading so if it is not perfect it will disappoint somewhere-I always like to think simple is better with clones (Three tubes instead of breakdown mods)
READ BELOW ONLY TO AVOID MY NEMESIS STORY
Now that I have hijacked my response into a dear diary about MY nemi-this is my advice. Every store I have been into has a graveyard junk box full of parts of mods and atty's they have taken apart or that have gone bad and with the hot button issue and the age of the nemi I can say with confidence that some store will have spare parts-I would call around or go into these stores and see if they have anything that will fit-nothing to lose and in the end of all things the nemi is still one of the most comfortable mods in the world to use so it might be worth saving
Ok...the nemesis clone is personal to me-it was one of my first official mech mods and I bonded with it...through trauma. The top cap threading issue is one I have seen on tons of clones-the tolerances aren't great and they don't match up. A lot of the suppliers who were ordering these clones sent so much product back (arching issues mainly) that the factories started revamping the threading. That is probably why your new cap is off the mark. My own personal Nemesis worked great with a ...warm button-then it got hot. I literally blistered once with the stock spring switch, switched to magnets-blistered again and then the pin came lose and made contact and burned my whole hand while I tried pulling it apart before it vented.
I will say this-it gave me two gifts, I learned more about mech mods and clones doing research to figure it out and then more about safety than I ever thought I would so I am grateful to that angry little device...sorry to go on for a while-bottom line is the Nemesis clones have thin aluminum walls and very tight threading so if it is not perfect it will disappoint somewhere-I always like to think simple is better with clones (Three tubes instead of breakdown mods)
READ BELOW ONLY TO AVOID MY NEMESIS STORY
Now that I have hijacked my response into a dear diary about MY nemi-this is my advice. Every store I have been into has a graveyard junk box full of parts of mods and atty's they have taken apart or that have gone bad and with the hot button issue and the age of the nemi I can say with confidence that some store will have spare parts-I would call around or go into these stores and see if they have anything that will fit-nothing to lose and in the end of all things the nemi is still one of the most comfortable mods in the world to use so it might be worth saving
Buy a SS nemmy clone.
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