New Article: Legislators Jump on Electronic Cigarette "Ban" Wagon

[Thulium]

From that article:

"at least one manufacturer has been found to have been deliberately adding ...... as well as nicotine to his e-cigarettes."

Are they kidding???!!!

Banzhaf also claims that 30 seconds of exposure to secondhand smoke puts you at risk of heart disease. When you consider the levels of TSNA's detected in e-cig cartridges, you could be exposed to 375,000 seconds (over 4 days straight) of "secondhand vapor" before you'd have the same exposure to TSNA's....and you'd still not be getting ANY carbon monoxide or the other 4000+ compounds present in smoke that are not present in vapor.

 

[kristin]

Dear Kristin,

I think the sentence:

"However, the FDA report did not include any findings on the composition of the actual vapor, when inhaled or exhaled."

may be arguable. If you look in the FDA report, there is the mention of a sparging apparatus and a picture of it. One may argue this was good enough to examine vapor as extracted by inhalation and generate some of the data presented.

I know you are not looking for praises here, but I routinely review papers for a scientific journal and I wish my authors wrote just half as good as you (myself included).
On the other hand, if the researchers who worked on the FDA report worked for me, they would no longer be employed by now. The research was not conducted rigorously and in a completely ethically correct fashion.

OK, just to be safe, I'll delete "inhaled" because we do know they didn't test EXHALED vapor. That's what everyone is concerned about, anyhow.

 

[skydragon]

Hi Skydragon.

I agree completely, but it's hard to put EVERYTHING into one article. I think many will get the point when reading it doesn't affect bystanders, is barely noticeable and the quote about how one e-cig user's husband has benefitted from her switch from tobacco. (Exactly why I put those points in this article - to appeal to non-smokers.)

But I have also addressed this in previous articles:
Kristin Noll-Marsh's Contributor Profile - Associated Content - associatedcontent.com

Hi Kristin,
I know it is hard to get everything in one article. If it gets too long most people lose interest. I don't want to make more work for you but maybe an article could be written solely on that subject matter. Something like, Why The Electronic Cigarette Is The Best Alternative For The Non Smoker. Or...The Health Benefits Of Electronic Cigaretts To The Non Smoker. I don't know, just some ideas.

See to me it is like selling something. In this case an idea with non smokers as the target. As with anything that is sold, you have to convince the consumer it is something they really really want or can't do without or they just don't pay attention. Don't care. There are many smokers out there that are still not aware of e-cigs so think of the many loved ones who wish their husband, wife, child, etc. etc. would quit if they just knew of a tool. Point out to them their loved one needs an e-cig and that they will never have the chance if our government steps in. It's non smokers we need contacting our officials. I know this isn't very concise but I have to get to work so am in a hurry.

 

[kristin]

Hi Kristin,
I know it is hard to get everything in one article. If it gets too long most people lose interest. I don't want to make more work for you but maybe an article could be written solely on that subject matter. Something like, Why The Electronic Cigarette Is The Best Alternative For The Non Smoker. Or...The Health Benefits Of Electronic Cigaretts To The Non Smoker. I don't know, just some ideas.

See to me it is like selling something. In this case an idea with non smokers as the target. As with anything that is sold, you have to convince the consumer it is something they really really want or can't do without or they just don't pay attention. Don't care. There are many smokers out there that are still not aware of e-cigs so think of the many loved ones who wish their husband, wife, child, etc. etc. would quit if they just knew of a tool. Point out to them their loved one needs an e-cig and that they will never have the chance if our government steps in. It's non smokers we need contacting our officials. I know this isn't very concise but I have to get to work so am in a hurry.

LOL - preaching to the choir, Skydragon! If you read many of my posts around the forum, I use the exact same argument. I'm with you 100% on that.

I'll see what I can do.

 

[bogiediver]

JMHO - but I think you should submit this article to the editorial section of all major newspapers...

And to any/all sites that publish the 'no facts' articles others write, as a rebuttal...

Well done...

-bogie

 

[kristin]

thanks! Just awaiting permission to print from the quoted members!!

 

[JohnnyVapor]

PM'ed my info to you. Thanks for using my quote, I feel fuzzy inside.

 

[kristin]

OK, all - if there are no further comments, I have my last quotee's permission, so i'm submitting the article! Thanks for all of your help!!

 

[jadeninja]

I believe "senator" is capitalised when you are referring to a specific person, i.e. Senator Clinton. If you're just talking about senators generically, don't think it requires caps.

Great article - are you a journalist? If so, where will this be printed/online?

Some of these clowns don't deserve to be capitalized

 

[kristin]

Well, the article is submitted, but I had to change the second paragraph because they already passed the bills today.

 

[jj2]

One heck of a long sentence.

"Electronic smoking devices have not been approved as to safety and efficacy by the federal Food and Drug Administration, and their use may pose a health risk to persons exposed to their smoke or vapor because of a known irritant contained therein and other substances that may, upon evaluation by that agency, be identified as potentially toxic to those inhaling the smoke or vapor," the bill's authors ascertained. (1)

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[kristin]

One heck of a long sentence.

"Electronic smoking devices have not been approved as to safety and efficacy by the federal Food and Drug Administration, and their use may pose a health risk to persons exposed to their smoke or vapor because of a known irritant contained therein and other substances that may, upon evaluation by that agency, be identified as potentially toxic to those inhaling the smoke or vapor," the bill's authors ascertained. (1)

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LOL! Yeah, well, that's lawmakers for you!

That other one was accidentally copied here when I copied & pasted from Associated Content - thanks for catching it.

 

[skydragon]

LOL - preaching to the choir, Skydragon! If you read many of my posts around the forum, I use the exact same argument. I'm with you 100% on that.

I'll see what I can do.

Sorry Kristin,
I don't mean to come off like I am telling you how to write what you want to write. You have been doing this much longer than I have even had an e-cig.

 

[Zofryer]

I'm really not worried. Until they ban Nicotine Inhalers, I'm fine. Because that's what I have. A Nicotine Inhaler. I mean, unless they want to start going after tea kettles, Glade Plugins, morning dew on fields of grass, or anything else that evaporates liquid. Don't even get me started on theatrical smoke machines. Thankfully most bar owners have no clue what an "electronic cigarette" even is, and don't even question me when I say "this is a nicotine inhaler. See, no fire. Cigarettes are bad. Thanks for banning them".

 

[rocketvapor]

Kristin - Great article, as usual! I PMed you with a few edits (I used to be a tech writer). I think some may be caused by the cut-and-paste I did in the PM window. The others are pretty trivial - do with them as you wish.

Keep up the good work!

 

[kristin]

Sorry Kristin,
I don't mean to come off like I am telling you how to write what you want to write. You have been doing this much longer than I have even had an e-cig.

Not at all, Slydragon! I didn't mean that in a negative way at all- I just meant that I totally agree with you!!

 

[WTF D00D]

They can kiss my ...., the best thing about vaping is if they dont see you they dont know....theyre the ones who are freakin ......s to lump this in with real smoking.

I work in a gov building and that is where I shall vape and nothing they can do to stop me...cause they cant smell it...

 

[quasimod]

I'm really not worried. Until they ban Nicotine Inhalers, I'm fine.[...]

Well, nothing to be worried about, as long as you're OK. Wait, isn't that how we got here in the 1st place? I mean, not getting all excited when the government overstepped it's bounds, and decided to regulate something it had no business regulating? I mean, it only affected "those people", you know?

To get back "On Topic", the OP may like to mention in her article how big the NRT market is, in dollars. I'm sure it's huge. Also, people who fail at NRT make several attempts, so it pays to fail. Even the ones who succeed at quitting by using NRT continue to use it for years. My mother used the gum for 6 years. Price the gum, and try to imagine how much they made just from her.

Sorry I'm too late for publication, but I just found this thread and the OP may write another article.

 

[Thulium]

I'm really not worried. Until they ban Nicotine Inhalers, I'm fine. Because that's what I have. A Nicotine Inhaler. I mean, unless they want to start going after tea kettles, Glade Plugins, morning dew on fields of grass, or anything else that evaporates liquid. Don't even get me started on theatrical smoke machines. Thankfully most bar owners have no clue what an "electronic cigarette" even is, and don't even question me when I say "this is a nicotine inhaler. See, no fire. Cigarettes are bad. Thanks for banning them".

Actually, New Jersey DID ban "Electronic smoking device” means an electronic device that can be used to deliver nicotine or other substances to the person inhaling from the device, including, but not limited to, an electronic cigarette, cigar, cigarillo, or pipe."

When enacted, this bill will make it illegal to use your "nicotine inhaler" in any public workplace in New Jersey.

New Jersey FTL.

Link for those that haven't read the actual text of the bill: http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2008/Bills/S3500/3053_U1.HTM

 

[skydragon]

Actually, New Jersey DID ban "Electronic smoking device” means an electronic device that can be used to deliver nicotine or other substances to the person inhaling from the device, including, but not limited to, an electronic cigarette, cigar, cigarillo, or pipe."

When enacted, this bill will make it illegal to use your "nicotine inhaler" in any public workplace in New Jersey.

New Jersey FTL.

Link for those that haven't read the actual text of the bill: S3053 S3054 SCS

Do you think we can say "but I didn't inhale" ?