New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

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Mr.Mann

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Wait a minute...I think I can tell them apart. This one is that one and that one is this one. LOL. Seriously though, I think I can tell them apart, though I still don't know which one is the 325 and which is the 400. Watch, I will probably find out that they're all the same. :laugh:

Which one would be the firmest/thickest?
 
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I have 2 P+ mods and they will both run with the DID and no extra O rings are required.
I wonder if they may have raised the center post on the P+ units in the last few runs.

Interesting. Was a bummer the first time using it... Made a perfect coil on my Provari and tried to put it on the P+18650, no fire... Had to wreck the coil, add an o ring and start over. Lol

Didn't take the chance with the shorty on my P+18500, added the o ring right off the bat.
 

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I seem to be DID Challenged! Poking, pulling, moving and nothing seems to get this thing humming. My current coil is a steady 2.2Ω and at 4.1 volts I'm getting whimpy vapor! Tomorrow I guess I'll go buy some cigarette papers and try that technique.

Try a 2/3 coil I find 3/4 at 3,7 volts or a charged 18650 at 4,1. Volts isn't that good. 2/3 works until my bat is dead


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Does Jim still provide two different mesh grades in The DID package? I can't tell for the life of me if these 4 pieces are the same or not. They sure as hell look the same!

There should be 2x325 & 2x400. They look a lot alike to me also, but it you hold them near a light (so get some reflexion on the surface) the 325 looks more "liney" (for lack of a better word) because it is more course. The 325 also feels a little less flexible and 400 is a little smoother. I've had good wicking with both regardless of juice (any where from 50pg/50vg to 100%VG)
 
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I seem to be DID Challenged! Poking, pulling, moving and nothing seems to get this thing humming. My current coil is a steady 2.2Ω and at 4.1 volts I'm getting whimpy vapor! Tomorrow I guess I'll go buy some cigarette papers and try that technique.

DIDs require a slight different vaping style for max plumage. They take a little bit to warm up so a "primer" puff, followed by a long slow draw will give better results (kinda like smoking a pipe). The second hit is better and the third is usually the charmer.
 

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There should be 2x325 & 2x400. They look a lot alike to me also, but it you hold them near a light (so get some reflexion on the surface) the 325 looks more "liney" (for lack of a better word) because it is more course. The 325 also feels a little less flexible and 400 is a little smoother. I've had good wicking with both regardless of juice (any where from 50pg/50vg to 100%VG)
haha, yeh, my entire family got involved in the great 325-400 puzzle of 2012. When it came down to 3-1 vote for the coarsest ones, I bagged and labeled the finer ones. I'd still be in a quandry if it weren't for their votes!
 

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haha, yeh, my entire family got involved in the great 325-400 puzzle of 2012. When it came down to 3-1 vote for the coarsest ones, I bagged and labeled the finer ones. I'd still be in a quandry if it weren't for their votes!

LOL, I DID the same thing. I have my little baggies seperated and marked, but I'm about 300% positive they're both mixed batches :laugh:
 

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Pete, if you're already at a reading, I wouldn't bother with getting the paper. just throw juice on the wick several times and burn it in. bump up the provari a few notches and make sure the hole in the cap is lined up with the center.
I seem to be DID Challenged! Poking, pulling, moving and nothing seems to get this thing humming. My current coil is a steady 2.2Ω and at 4.1 volts I'm getting whimpy vapor! Tomorrow I guess I'll go buy some cigarette papers and try that technique.
 

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haha, yeh, my entire family got involved in the great 325-400 puzzle of 2012. When it came down to 3-1 vote for the coarsest ones, I bagged and labeled the finer ones. I'd still be in a quandry if it weren't for their votes!


Something I just stumbled upon (adapted from CW's advice): To determine which mesh you have in your hands, hold both of them up and look through them onto your computer screen. Keep the non-looking eye closed and move back slowly. The 325 will allow the words on the computer screen to be a little more legible further back than the 400, which really starts to obstruct the words on the screen.

p.s. Thanks CW!
 
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Hey Mr. Mann, that's cool trick!

Thanks for the explanation and "the light" suggestion! I used that info about light as a pass-thru indentifier as opposed to a reflective determiner. (The light in my office sux!)
I am talking crazy now! Just happy I DID it!
 
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Just had a minor aha moment. My problem is the connection on the positive post. It's difficult to tighten the top nut without the middle nut loosening. I believe I'm losing voltage right there. I can see why some people use 4 nuts now. Tomorrow I will hunt for small nuts (hmmmmmm). If I can't find them I'll work on making a tighter connection. Is there a correct side to have the nuts facing? One side seems flat while the other seems slightly concave.
 

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Just had a minor aha moment. My problem is the connection on the positive post. It's difficult to tighten the top nut without the middle nut loosening. I believe I'm losing voltage right there. I can see why some people use 4 nuts now. Tomorrow I will hunt for small nuts (hmmmmmm). If I can't find them I'll work on making a tighter connection. Is there a correct side to have the nuts facing? One side seems flat while the other seems slightly concave.

On the base I put the flat side down and then for the two at the top ridge sides facing each other (seems to act like teeth and holds better). Trick with the middle nut is to hold it in place with your thumb nail on the hand holding the PV and then tighten the top nut with your free hand (I've used hemostats on the top nut to get it tight before)

If you hadn't seen some of Jim's photos in earlier threads, he's gonna have a better nut setup hopefully available this week (tall thumb threaded juice hole and neg screw / tall center post base nut and single top nut - all SS + SS center posts)
 
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On the base I put the flat side down and then for the two at the top ridge sides facing each other (seems to act like teeth and holds better). Trick with the middle nut is to hold it in place with your thumb nail on the hand holding the PV and then tighten the top nut with your free hand (I've used hemostats on the top nut to get it tight before)

Or you can wrap a low coil like this, and use 3 nuts (no need to buy extras):

.9ohm coil, 3 wrap 30awg Kanthal A
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I seem to be DID Challenged! Poking, pulling, moving and nothing seems to get this thing humming. My current coil is a steady 2.2Ω and at 4.1 volts I'm getting whimpy vapor! Tomorrow I guess I'll go buy some cigarette papers and try that technique.


Hang in there Pete! Not everyone can have the beginners luck that I seemed to have enjoyed with my first two coils. I am dreading the day that I have to fidget with coils etc. because I'll be scratching my head trying to figure out how I was able to do it without any issues before.

Just so you know, here's the process I used with my first two.

* I started with the coil first. I used a screw to wrap the coils on. The tip of the screw just barely fit the hole that the wick goes into.
* Once the coil was wrapped, I measured and dry burned it, just to make sure it worked. Set DID aside.
* Cut sheet of mesh, and oxidize every single mm of it, before rolling.
* I rolled it on the allen key that was provided with the DID to a thickness where I practically had to screw it into the coils.
* Once it was rolled to size, I burnt it and burnt it, till it was almost black.
* Cooled it down, quenched it with about 4 drops of juice, and fired it with a lighter. Did this 4 times, making sure that the fire was moving up the wick as it died out.
* I then inserted it into the coil all the way to the bottom, and then lifted it just a tad bit.
* Cut to top of centre post, make sure it's wicking well, and put it to work.

I also watched as many videos as I could of folks putting the DID together, along with wrapping wicks and coils. It helps.. every single one of them helps.
 
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